DC School Rankings are Abysmal - Charters Too

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I'm a little confused -- people claim that there are good public and public charter schools in DC, but the National Center for Education Statistics ranks DC public schools (including the 109 charters) below national averages in math, reading, science and writing.

http://nces.ed.gov/nationsreportcard/states/

The only report that ranks DC charter schools separately is issued by the DC Public Charter School Board, which is hardly an independent source.

I'm not trying to be snarky, I'm actually looking for real facts -- where are people getting their data to support assertions that these public schools are high performing?

Yea its not fair to compare DC to STATES...but because its a district thats what usually happens, even so DC is bad when compared to other cities as well, a lot of the charter schools are a sham, even the elite one's in NorthWest that all the affluent whites are trying to get their kids into are subpar

Svubpar how? As long as the kids go to great colleges and do well, what does it matter. Apparently, they are getting what they need.

Touche'....I agree

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm a little confused -- people claim that there are good public and public charter schools in DC, but the National Center for Education Statistics ranks DC public schools (including the 109 charters) below national averages in math, reading, science and writing.

http://nces.ed.gov/nationsreportcard/states/

The only report that ranks DC charter schools separately is issued by the DC Public Charter School Board, which is hardly an independent source.

I'm not trying to be snarky, I'm actually looking for real facts -- where are people getting their data to support assertions that these public schools are high performing?

Yea its not fair to compare DC to STATES...but because its a district thats what usually happens, even so DC is bad when compared to other cities as well, a lot of the charter schools are a sham, even the elite one's in NorthWest that all the affluent whites are trying to get their kids into are subpar

Where do you live and where are your children enrolled?

Mitchellville/woodmore area

Why do you care? How does this affect you? You live in Maryland

[Anonymous]

He or she might have roots in DC.. or might have friends with kids in DC ... its perfectly acceptable to have a opinion about something that doesn't DIRECTLY affect you. *shrug*

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm a little confused -- people claim that there are good public and public charter schools in DC, but the National Center for Education Statistics ranks DC public schools (including the 109 charters) below national averages in math, reading, science and writing.

http://nces.ed.gov/nationsreportcard/states/

The only report that ranks DC charter schools separately is issued by the DC Public Charter School Board, which is hardly an independent source.

I'm not trying to be snarky, I'm actually looking for real facts -- where are people getting their data to support assertions that these public schools are high performing?

Yea its not fair to compare DC to STATES...but because its a district thats what usually happens, even so DC is bad when compared to other cities as well, a lot of the charter schools are a sham, even the elite one's in NorthWest that all the affluent whites are trying to get their kids into are subpar

Where do you live and where are your children enrolled?

Mitchellville/woodmore area

Then why are you posting? The schools in Woodmore suck.

Soooo not true...very good testing scores and majority minority as well, though not poverty stricken

Please name the MS and HS. TIA.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm a little confused -- people claim that there are good public and public charter schools in DC, but the National Center for Education Statistics ranks DC public schools (including the 109 charters) below national averages in math, reading, science and writing.

http://nces.ed.gov/nationsreportcard/states/

The only report that ranks DC charter schools separately is issued by the DC Public Charter School Board, which is hardly an independent source.

I'm not trying to be snarky, I'm actually looking for real facts -- where are people getting their data to support assertions that these public schools are high performing?

Yea its not fair to compare DC to STATES...but because its a district thats what usually happens, even so DC is bad when compared to other cities as well, a lot of the charter schools are a sham, even the elite one's in NorthWest that all the affluent whites are trying to get their kids into are subpar

Where do you live and where are your children enrolled?

Mitchellville/woodmore area

Did you miss this part?


"DC has a 50-point gap between eligible/not eligible for free lunch and the highest scores in the country for those in the "not eligible" category."

I would hardly call that subpar.

make sense, but is that due to the school system or just the highly educated majority white population in certain sections of the city? I always judge a system on how it does with its poorer residents. I"m curious to see the racial breakdown of those scores

What woudlbt racial breakdown do for you? Are you assuming there are not any educated black families in DC? The schools aren't failing the non-poverty kids and based on a recent DCUM survey, most people aren't supplementing their students via tutoring.

No not all, schools like shepherd park i'm sure test well, like the white highly educated kids in other parts of NW. But how many communities are like that? As a AA myself when I judge a certain school I like to look at the minority ie Black kids test scores because they can lag behind others even if the school produces great test results. What good is a great school with great test results if ur child isn't benefiting.

What are you saying? That because your child is black he/she would lag behind? You might want to rephrase because that's how your post reads.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:He or she might have roots in DC.. or might have friends with kids in DC ... its perfectly acceptable to have a opinion about something that doesn't DIRECTLY affect you. *shrug*

He or she should deal with subpar schools in his own backyard. PGCty schools are not the best, and they benefit in these evaluations because of HOWo, MOCO, and Washington county.

[Anonymous]

The neurosis displayed in all of these discussions is stunning. LOL

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm a little confused -- people claim that there are good public and public charter schools in DC, but the National Center for Education Statistics ranks DC public schools (including the 109 charters) below national averages in math, reading, science and writing.

http://nces.ed.gov/nationsreportcard/states/

The only report that ranks DC charter schools separately is issued by the DC Public Charter School Board, which is hardly an independent source.

I'm not trying to be snarky, I'm actually looking for real facts -- where are people getting their data to support assertions that these public schools are high performing?

Yea its not fair to compare DC to STATES...but because its a district thats what usually happens, even so DC is bad when compared to other cities as well, a lot of the charter schools are a sham, even the elite one's in NorthWest that all the affluent whites are trying to get their kids into are subpar

Where do you live and where are your children enrolled?

Mitchellville/woodmore area

Then why are you posting? The schools in Woodmore suck.

Soooo not true...very good testing scores and majority minority as well, though not poverty stricken

Please name the MS and HS. TIA.

Elementary: http://www.greatschools.org/maryland/mitchellville/1195-Woodmore-Elementary-School/quality/
anyone

http://www.schooldigger.com/go/MD/schools/0051001188/school.aspx

41% FARM

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm a little confused -- people claim that there are good public and public charter schools in DC, but the National Center for Education Statistics ranks DC public schools (including the 109 charters) below national averages in math, reading, science and writing.

http://nces.ed.gov/nationsreportcard/states/

The only report that ranks DC charter schools separately is issued by the DC Public Charter School Board, which is hardly an independent source.

I'm not trying to be snarky, I'm actually looking for real facts -- where are people getting their data to support assertions that these public schools are high performing?

Yea its not fair to compare DC to STATES...but because its a district thats what usually happens, even so DC is bad when compared to other cities as well, a lot of the charter schools are a sham, even the elite one's in NorthWest that all the affluent whites are trying to get their kids into are subpar

Where do you live and where are your children enrolled?

Mitchellville/woodmore area

Then why are you posting? The schools in Woodmore suck.

Soooo not true...very good testing scores and majority minority as well, though not poverty stricken

Please name the MS and HS. TIA.

Elementary: http://www.greatschools.org/maryland/mitchellville/1195-Woodmore-Elementary-School/quality/
anyone

http://www.schooldigger.com/go/MD/schools/0051001188/school.aspx

41% FARM

Amazing, DCPS should drop everything and study this school. Not sure what the major malfunction of DCPS is.

[Anonymous]

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Amazing, DCPS should drop everything and study this school. Not sure what the major malfunction of DCPS is.

Huh? That seems comparable to DCPS schools with comparable levels of poverty. Were you comparing by race alone? See why that doesn't work?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm a little confused -- people claim that there are good public and public charter schools in DC, but the National Center for Education Statistics ranks DC public schools (including the 109 charters) below national averages in math, reading, science and writing.

http://nces.ed.gov/nationsreportcard/states/

The only report that ranks DC charter schools separately is issued by the DC Public Charter School Board, which is hardly an independent source.

I'm not trying to be snarky, I'm actually looking for real facts -- where are people getting their data to support assertions that these public schools are high performing?

Yea its not fair to compare DC to STATES...but because its a district thats what usually happens, even so DC is bad when compared to other cities as well, a lot of the charter schools are a sham, even the elite one's in NorthWest that all the affluent whites are trying to get their kids into are subpar

Where do you live and where are your children enrolled?

Mitchellville/woodmore area

Then why are you posting? The schools in Woodmore suck.

Soooo not true...very good testing scores and majority minority as well, though not poverty stricken

Please name the MS and HS. TIA.

Elementary: http://www.greatschools.org/maryland/mitchellville/1195-Woodmore-Elementary-School/quality/
anyone

http://www.schooldigger.com/go/MD/schools/0051001188/school.aspx

41% FARM

MS? HS?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm a little confused -- people claim that there are good public and public charter schools in DC, but the National Center for Education Statistics ranks DC public schools (including the 109 charters) below national averages in math, reading, science and writing.

http://nces.ed.gov/nationsreportcard/states/

The only report that ranks DC charter schools separately is issued by the DC Public Charter School Board, which is hardly an independent source.

I'm not trying to be snarky, I'm actually looking for real facts -- where are people getting their data to support assertions that these public schools are high performing?

Yea its not fair to compare DC to STATES...but because its a district thats what usually happens, even so DC is bad when compared to other cities as well, a lot of the charter schools are a sham, even the elite one's in NorthWest that all the affluent whites are trying to get their kids into are subpar

Where do you live and where are your children enrolled?

But I have relatives that live throughout DC, besides I am interested in the region as a whole when it comes to education

Mitchellville/woodmore area

Why do you care? How does this affect you? You live in Maryland

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm a little confused -- people claim that there are good public and public charter schools in DC, but the National Center for Education Statistics ranks DC public schools (including the 109 charters) below national averages in math, reading, science and writing.

http://nces.ed.gov/nationsreportcard/states/

The only report that ranks DC charter schools separately is issued by the DC Public Charter School Board, which is hardly an independent source.

I'm not trying to be snarky, I'm actually looking for real facts -- where are people getting their data to support assertions that these public schools are high performing?

Yea its not fair to compare DC to STATES...but because its a district thats what usually happens, even so DC is bad when compared to other cities as well, a lot of the charter schools are a sham, even the elite one's in NorthWest that all the affluent whites are trying to get their kids into are subpar

Where do you live and where are your children enrolled?

But I have relatives that live throughout DC, besides I am interested in the region as a whole when it comes to education

Mitchellville/woodmore area

Why do you care? How does this affect you? You live in Maryland

But I have relatives that live throughout DC, besides I am interested in the region as a whole when it comes to education

Mitchellville/woodmore area

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm a little confused -- people claim that there are good public and public charter schools in DC, but the National Center for Education Statistics ranks DC public schools (including the 109 charters) below national averages in math, reading, science and writing.

http://nces.ed.gov/nationsreportcard/states/

The only report that ranks DC charter schools separately is issued by the DC Public Charter School Board, which is hardly an independent source.

I'm not trying to be snarky, I'm actually looking for real facts -- where are people getting their data to support assertions that these public schools are high performing?

Yea its not fair to compare DC to STATES...but because its a district thats what usually happens, even so DC is bad when compared to other cities as well, a lot of the charter schools are a sham, even the elite one's in NorthWest that all the affluent whites are trying to get their kids into are subpar

Where do you live and where are your children enrolled?

Mitchellville/woodmore area

Did you miss this part?


"DC has a 50-point gap between eligible/not eligible for free lunch and the highest scores in the country for those in the "not eligible" category."

I would hardly call that subpar.

make sense, but is that due to the school system or just the highly educated majority white population in certain sections of the city? I always judge a system on how it does with its poorer residents. I"m curious to see the racial breakdown of those scores

What woudlbt racial breakdown do for you? Are you assuming there are not any educated black families in DC? The schools aren't failing the non-poverty kids and based on a recent DCUM survey, most people aren't supplementing their students via tutoring.

No not all, schools like shepherd park i'm sure test well, like the white highly educated kids in other parts of NW. But how many communities are like that? As a AA myself when I judge a certain school I like to look at the minority ie Black kids test scores because they can lag behind others even if the school produces great test results. What good is a great school with great test results if ur child isn't benefiting.

What are you saying? That because your child is black he/she would lag behind? You might want to rephrase because that's how your post reads.

No but there is an "race gap" when it comes to testing. MD is very honest about that and breaks down test scores by gender & RACE in each individual school. That way you can better judge how the the community is doing better as a whole. People talk about lack of black achievement and the lower HS grad rate but in MD 80 percent of Black students Graduate within 4 years, which is the national average overall. They also produce very good test scores, I feel its because MD looks at EVERYTHING whether its PC or Not

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:He or she might have roots in DC.. or might have friends with kids in DC ... its perfectly acceptable to have a opinion about something that doesn't DIRECTLY affect you. *shrug*

He or she should deal with subpar schools in his own backyard. PGCty schools are not the best, and they benefit in these evaluations because of HOWo, MOCO, and Washington county.

Def not true I feel they do better with certain demographics than DCPS I have experience with both. But as u say like anything depends on the neighborhood