Christmas carols banned--at recess?

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[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:We do not celebrate Christmas and my 9 year old has been coming home super bummed recently because he is "the only one that does not celebrate Christmas" and "everyone at school keeps talking about Christmas and Santa".

I really appreciate that the schools try to squash Christmas/Santa talk. I don't care if they discuss the Holidays and traditions, but Christmas is very dominant and can become a bummer for those kids that don't celebrate it. Adults often make comments to my son about "Santa is going to visit you" and "have you been good for Santa" and it's definitely awkward for him and makes him feel uncomfortable - and even sad because he feels like he is missing out.

We of course deal with it as a family, but it's just another perspective.

Why not just celebrate Christmas and give your child gifts. Problem solved

[Anonymous]

Wy squash the talk? This is life people...you declare your love for whatever you love and allow my child to declare love Jesus. She won't be offended by what you love.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:We do not celebrate Christmas and my 9 year old has been coming home super bummed recently because he is "the only one that does not celebrate Christmas" and "everyone at school keeps talking about Christmas and Santa".

I really appreciate that the schools try to squash Christmas/Santa talk. I don't care if they discuss the Holidays and traditions, but Christmas is very dominant and can become a bummer for those kids that don't celebrate it. Adults often make comments to my son about "Santa is going to visit you" and "have you been good for Santa" and it's definitely awkward for him and makes him feel uncomfortable - and even sad because he feels like he is missing out.

We of course deal with it as a family, but it's just another perspective.

Why not just celebrate Christmas and give your child gifts. Problem solved

And if you live in a Muslim country, I assume you will celebrate Eid by slaughtering a sheep and sharing it with your family, right? And you will fast for Ramadan to avoid offending your neighbors?

Or if you live in a Jewish area you will fast for Yom Kippur, avoid pork, not carry stuff outside your house or use money or work on the Sabbath? Right? Problems solved!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Wy squash the talk? This is life people...you declare your love for whatever you love and allow my child to declare love Jesus. She won't be offended by what you love.

My child loves Satan. Does he get to declare his love for Satan at school? Can he sacrifice an animal to Satan to demonstrate that love? I really appreciate your open mindedness.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:A few kids were singing Christmas carols at a charter school at recess--the kind that begin, "Jingle Bells/Santa smells." A teacher came up to them and told them to stop, since not everyone celebrates Christmas.
Lord, give me strength to survive the holiday season.

Were you there? Do you know the circumstances or the reason the teacher would giv?. I am not usually THAT sympathetic to teachers, but really, to have a forum where one in the moment quick decision is reviewed for four pages by folks analyzing its political and theological meaning must be infuriating.

[Anonymous]

Tis the season!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:A few kids were singing Christmas carols at a charter school at recess--the kind that begin, "Jingle Bells/Santa smells." A teacher came up to them and told them to stop, since not everyone celebrates Christmas.
Lord, give me strength to survive the holiday season.

Were you there? Do you know the circumstances or the reason the teacher would giv?. I am not usually THAT sympathetic to teachers, but really, to have a forum where one in the moment quick decision is reviewed for four pages by folks analyzing its political and theological meaning must be infuriating.

Word. I'm a teacher. I would wager that the kids were being loud and repetitive with a silly song, and some of the kids who usually eat Pop-tarts for breakfast were about to start joining in chorus, so the teacher quickly shushed them by saying what she did, which wasn't the best snap decision but was kinder than telling them to STFU with the Batman song.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:A few kids were singing Christmas carols at a charter school at recess--the kind that begin, "Jingle Bells/Santa smells." A teacher came up to them and told them to stop, since not everyone celebrates Christmas.
Lord, give me strength to survive the holiday season.

Were you there? Do you know the circumstances or the reason the teacher would giv?. I am not usually THAT sympathetic to teachers, but really, to have a forum where one in the moment quick decision is reviewed for four pages by folks analyzing its political and theological meaning must be infuriating.

Word. I'm a teacher. I would wager that the kids were being loud and repetitive with a silly song, and some of the kids who usually eat Pop-tarts for breakfast were about to start joining in chorus, so the teacher quickly shushed them by saying what she did, which wasn't the best snap decision but was kinder than telling them to STFU with the Batman song.

Really? You're a teacher and you talk about the kids that eat pop tarts for breakfast. I pray that my kid never has you.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:A few kids were singing Christmas carols at a charter school at recess--the kind that begin, "Jingle Bells/Santa smells." A teacher came up to them and told them to stop, since not everyone celebrates Christmas.
Lord, give me strength to survive the holiday season.

Were you there? Do you know the circumstances or the reason the teacher would giv?. I am not usually THAT sympathetic to teachers, but really, to have a forum where one in the moment quick decision is reviewed for four pages by folks analyzing its political and theological meaning must be infuriating.

Word. I'm a teacher. I would wager that the kids were being loud and repetitive with a silly song, and some of the kids who usually eat Pop-tarts for breakfast were about to start joining in chorus, so the teacher quickly shushed them by saying what she did, which wasn't the best snap decision but was kinder than telling them to STFU with the Batman song.

Really? You're a teacher and you talk about the kids that eat pop tarts for breakfast. I pray that my kid never has you.

Yep, I'll say it. There is a often noticeable behavior difference among the ones who are served eggs, croissant, leftover chicken & rice or whatever other normal foods and the ones who get served 32 grams of sugar and food dyes. And in second grade they talk about their favorite breakfasts without us prying for this kind of info. Doesn't mean I think any differently about the kid-- just the parents...

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Not many 9 year olds in our group even discuss Santa. I am one that as very pro separation of church and state. However, I think your 9 year old needs to get some thicker skin. My 8 year old isnt allowed to play video games, he is fine when his friends talk about all their video games.

Did you really go there? Did you really just equate your parenting decision not to allow video games with children feeling singled out when they are part of a minority religion? Religious identity for families and children can be a serious issue. In this country it is very hard to be a member of one of the minority religions as so many people believe that the cultural norm of Christianity should be catered to predominantly. Additionally, allowing Christmas into the public schools lends itself to kids segregating out the "weird" kids who don't celebrate Christmas. But this country was founded on the principle of religious freedom. People should be free to practice what religion they want. Allowing Christmas to dominate in public schools makes it much harder for non-Christian families during the holiday season.

For what it's worth, I'm Christian and celebrate Christmas. I recognize this because my best friend is Jewish and I've seen how easy it is even when people are well-meaning for the non-Christians to feel excluded or actually be demeaned by people who complain about the war on Christmas. You expect Christmas to be everywhere and for those who don't celebrate to just deal with it.

Jew here, did you pull the "my best friend is jewish" card. It's the playground leave the kids alone. Who cares what they sing.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:A few kids were singing Christmas carols at a charter school at recess--the kind that begin, "Jingle Bells/Santa smells." A teacher came up to them and told them to stop, since not everyone celebrates Christmas.
Lord, give me strength to survive the holiday season.

This smells like an urban legend.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:We do not celebrate Christmas and my 9 year old has been coming home super bummed recently because he is "the only one that does not celebrate Christmas" and "everyone at school keeps talking about Christmas and Santa".

I really appreciate that the schools try to squash Christmas/Santa talk. I don't care if they discuss the Holidays and traditions, but Christmas is very dominant and can become a bummer for those kids that don't celebrate it. Adults often make comments to my son about "Santa is going to visit you" and "have you been good for Santa" and it's definitely awkward for him and makes him feel uncomfortable - and even sad because he feels like he is missing out.

We of course deal with it as a family, but it's just another perspective.

So to make sure your kid is not the only one bummed out, we should bumm out the rest of them? Charming.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:We do not celebrate Christmas and my 9 year old has been coming home super bummed recently because he is "the only one that does not celebrate Christmas" and "everyone at school keeps talking about Christmas and Santa".

I really appreciate that the schools try to squash Christmas/Santa talk. I don't care if they discuss the Holidays and traditions, but Christmas is very dominant and can become a bummer for those kids that don't celebrate it. Adults often make comments to my son about "Santa is going to visit you" and "have you been good for Santa" and it's definitely awkward for him and makes him feel uncomfortable - and even sad because he feels like he is missing out.

We of course deal with it as a family, but it's just another perspective.

So to make sure your kid is not the only one bummed out, we should bumm out the rest of them? Charming.

I'm the poster you quoted and this is my first response since my original post. Of course not, that's not what I meant to imply. I grew up celebrating Christmas and the magic that comes along with the season. I'd never want to take that away from another kid or bum anyone out. I was just sharing my situation and the fact that I appreciate it that Santa/Christmas is not a focus, at least it isnt at our school. The do a Winter Assembly and the focus is on all the Holiday celebrations that happen during this time of the year.

[Anonymous]

Banning Christmas carols but children can heard all over the playground singing the latest rap songs with all the inappropriate words and dance moves.