Why haven't alleged UVA rapists been identified?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I went to UVA and never cared for the school culture much. Didn't like the pretentious, Mr Jefferson's University, Honor Code parts of it. Didn't like the fraternity/sorority, Laura Ashley dress/bow tie part either.

But I have a really hard time believing the lead story in the Rolling Stone article. Yeah many of the frat guys seemed like smug a--holes but I just can't see them doing something like this. And the implication that this was a local initiation ritual of that fraternity chapter - really can't believe that.

Really want to see this story thoroughly investigated and either validated or debunked. For better or worse this is our state flagship university and it should not be tarred like this unless it really deserves to be. There is a big difference between this story and a problem with acquaintance rape which I do believe exists at UVA and many universities.

It would help a lot if she would name the person she could ID, but she won’t.
I think it is reasonable to have a complaining party in order to launch an investigation.
Who is in the best position to identify the alleged perp - she is.

Once again the victim is punished. She did a halfway thing -- changed the facts to protect the guilty, and she is STILL the one who is blamed. I would say unbelievable, except that this result is all too believable.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I went to UVA and never cared for the school culture much. Didn't like the pretentious, Mr Jefferson's University, Honor Code parts of it. Didn't like the fraternity/sorority, Laura Ashley dress/bow tie part either.

But I have a really hard time believing the lead story in the Rolling Stone article. Yeah many of the frat guys seemed like smug a--holes but I just can't see them doing something like this. And the implication that this was a local initiation ritual of that fraternity chapter - really can't believe that.

Really want to see this story thoroughly investigated and either validated or debunked. For better or worse this is our state flagship university and it should not be tarred like this unless it really deserves to be. There is a big difference between this story and a problem with acquaintance rape which I do believe exists at UVA and many universities.

It would help a lot if she would name the person she could ID, but she won’t.
I think it is reasonable to have a complaining party in order to launch an investigation.
Who is in the best position to identify the alleged perp - she is.

Once again the victim is punished. She did a halfway thing -- changed the facts to protect the guilty, and she is STILL the one who is blamed. I would say unbelievable, except that this result is all too believable.

The only victims in this complete fabrication are the frat, the university, real rape victims, and men in general.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I suppose it is too much to expect a little contrition from OP and others above who were ready to publicly condemn and demand the arrest of students based on what now seems -- at a minimum-- to have been terrible journalism and potentially much, much worse. I am not associated with UVA or any frats, but this cultural assumption that every untested public accusation must be accurate because many others are not reported or prosecuted makes no sense and must stop.

+1,000,000

[Anonymous]

Because it's now clear that it was fictionalized.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Because it's now clear that it was fictionalized.

Or maybe somebody paid off some people for some convenient memory problem to make this go away.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Because it's now clear that it was fictionalized.

Or maybe somebody paid off some people for some convenient memory problem to make this go away.

make what go away? Erdely’s story? I think she did more to undermine any story there was to be told by not checking facts and seeking to corroborate claims Jackie [allegedly] made.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I went to UVA and never cared for the school culture much. Didn't like the pretentious, Mr Jefferson's University, Honor Code parts of it. Didn't like the fraternity/sorority, Laura Ashley dress/bow tie part either.

But I have a really hard time believing the lead story in the Rolling Stone article. Yeah many of the frat guys seemed like smug a--holes but I just can't see them doing something like this. And the implication that this was a local initiation ritual of that fraternity chapter - really can't believe that.

Really want to see this story thoroughly investigated and either validated or debunked. For better or worse this is our state flagship university and it should not be tarred like this unless it really deserves to be. There is a big difference between this story and a problem with acquaintance rape which I do believe exists at UVA and many universities.

It would help a lot if she would name the person she could ID, but she won’t.
I think it is reasonable to have a complaining party in order to launch an investigation.
Who is in the best position to identify the alleged perp - she is.

Once again the victim is punished. She did a halfway thing -- changed the facts to protect the guilty, and she is STILL the one who is blamed. I would say unbelievable, except that this result is all too believable.

She changed the facts to "protect the guilty" and you think that is a noble thing?

I believe that she changed the facts to better enable herself to take shots at the fraternity members while remaining anonymous. That's what I think.

[Anonymous]

^Maybe "invented facts" would be more accurate.