What the Lancet says about near death experiences

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Anonymous wrote:I don't think that most people with NDEs equate them with dreams. My NDE (when I was 24), felt more real, and changed me a bit. I had no idea it was an NDE. When I read up on NDEs of others 15 yrs later, I knew thats what I had. Usually in dreams people are not clinically dead either. The brain can not dream during death. But I can see how to others who can not explain it, it may be thought of as a dream.

How did it change you?

I was young and never spiritual or religious. My therapist said I was anorexic and my weight kept plummeting. She used to weigh me at every appointment. At the last appointment before my NDE, she said if I lost one more pound she would have to admit me to the hospital. It was a very painful time for me as my boyfriend of five yrs had just dumped me and quickly began seeing other girls. I lost all appetite and lost 27 lbs in one summer. I never considered that anorexia. Depression, maybe. But I was already thin to begin with and losing 27 lbs really weakened me to the point of making even breathing difficult. Anyhow, I changed over the course of time. I learned to value myself and not let anyone affect my sense of self worth. I learned that intentionally denying my body nourishment was tantamount to suicide and my life is not mine to take at will. God had a purpose for my life and there was reason for my suffering. However, I was not told the reason and was asked to trust God's plan. At the time I could not fathom a future life. But I got through that time, and met a wonderful man who I have now been married to for 15 yrs. Overall, I learned to trust God and not take the bad in life too seriously. I learned we are like travelers through life, and its a very short trip anyway. My real home is in the after life. I learned God will remove any memory of hardship we suffered in our life.

Fascinating -- Are you saying this came to you during your NDE?

Yes. But when I came back into my body (more like got sucked back in), it felt brutal and painful. I was so upset to be back.

[Anonymous]

Hypothesis 1: There is a little understood and not widely accepted sensory ability that occurs when ordinary brain activity ceases/ It allows us to sense what is around us in a way we interpret as looking at our bodies and surroundings from above.

Hypothesis 2: Sometimes our spirits leave our bodies, look at them from outside, and then jump back in, thereby proving that the Bible is true, although the Bible says nothing about such experiences.

I know the above sounds snarky, but aren't those the options we are discussing?

[Anonymous]

If Hypothesis #1 attempts to discredit the notion of a soul, it does not explain how patients who are clinically dead can report hearing detailed conversations of people in other rooms or far away from the surgical room. If this hypothesis is says sensory abilities survive brain death, then it supports the notion of a surviving consciousness.

I'm not sure why the bible, quran, torah would need to address specifically near death experiences to prove it's truth or validity. There were enough prophesies that came true so we don't need information on nde's to validate it's truth.

[Anonymous]

I found this cardiac surgeon's story very moving and believable. He seems as befuddled as an atheist would be. lol

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JL1oDuvQR08

[Anonymous]

I think Dr. Oz put it best in this video where he interviewed Dr. Mary Neal, an orthopedic surgeon who was skeptical about NDE's until she had one.

http://www.doctoroz.com/videos/do-you-believe-life-after-death

Dr. Oz said science may not explain death very well but we have always known in our gut what is truth and we have to follow what we know in our heart to be true.

[Anonymous]

I posted about my grandmother above. I have had 2 out of body experiences during sleep and immediately identified with the anorexic who said she got sucked back into her body. Sounds familiar because both times I shot back into my body.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I posted about my grandmother above. I have had 2 out of body experiences during sleep and immediately identified with the anorexic who said she got sucked back into her body. Sounds familiar because both times I shot back into my body.

But these were dreams, right? Do you have any reason to believe that brain function stopped while you were sleeping.

[Anonymous]

PP, I am the one who was diagnosed with anorexia. I didn't really believe the diagnosis. I was depressed at the time and lost appetite.

Curious, what was your NDE like? Was it like a dream or more like an NDE??

[Anonymous]

PP, I am the one who was diagnosed with anorexia. I didn't really believe the diagnosis. I was depressed at the time and just lost my appetite.

Curious, what was your NDE like? Was it like a dream or more like an NDE??

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:PP, I am the one who was diagnosed with anorexia. I didn't really believe the diagnosis. I was depressed at the time and just lost my appetite.

Curious, what was your NDE like? Was it like a dream or more like an NDE??

They used to call what happened to you being 'heartbroken' and people really do die of it. That happened to me - couldn't eat, couldn't rest. Ended up in therapy too. No NDE though.

The Near Death Research Forum has been collecting accounts of NDEs for years now. Their archives are huge and accessible. They put up new accounts every week that have been received from all over the world. Here is their page of most recently received NDEs: http://www.nderf.org/NDERF/NDE_Archives/NDERF_NDEs.htm