Seriously, why does HR suck so bad almost everywhere?

[Anonymous]

[quote=Anonymous]Those who can, do. Those who can't pursue HR.


Also, HR is used as a dumping ground by companies who can't fire the person for p.c. reasons.

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Anonymous wrote:DH has experienced over and again that HR is there to protect the company at any cost mainly by protecting/covering up/ignoring the egregious behavior going on at the top of the company

Very true. Also, a lot of HR people get off an having power over others in the organization. It gives them the opportunity to screw over people.

[Anonymous]

Hr is the bottom of the cesspool who try to use regs to make themselves feel better for not being able to contribute/work in any real capacity.

[Anonymous]

The only thing HR is good for is knowing all the various labor laws. For example, the legal process for firing someone without getting sued.

I remember one time an HR person wanted to hire me (I'm a techie) and said they require 7 years of experience in ABC programming language. I pointed out I only had 2 years experience in it because the language was only invented two years ago!

At DW's company, their HR tried for a month to get someone to fill a fairly basic billing manager job and kept sending her crap unqualified candidates. So one night she spends $20 and posts an ad on Craigslist (with her immediate boss's permission), and gets 5 great candidates within a week.

I'm glad I'm in a small company now. No need for HR. For any labor law or benefits stuff, we have a consultant we pay by the hour to handle that stuff.

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Anonymous wrote:Mid level managers sometimes don't get what HR brings to the table. Senior level managers more often do because they are more likely to be held responsible for engagement levels, change projects success, head count, succession gaps and retention. To name a few.

Okay, so for this mid-level manager, for whom HR is bringing nothing of apparent value to my table, what am I to give them credit for? I honestly want to know. They have demonstrated zero value to me in either the review or goal setting processes. I guess they do pay me on time....

Kind of proves my point.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Hr is the bottom of the cesspool who try to use regs to make themselves feel better for not being able to contribute/work in any real capacity.

Simmer down, bitch. It's one thing to be annoyed with an individual's poor performance. It's another to malign whole swaths of professionals. We're ALL pissed at people who don't do their jobs well but somehow continue to be employed. If your critical thinking skills are so lacking that you can't figure out the difference between an entire broadly defined professional category and the people you've known who happen to work in that category, then you clearly have no business making that judgment. I guess your colleagues can be grateful you don't work in HR. Because I'm sure you would be a holy terror if you had the kind of power a competent and trusted HR manager has.

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Anonymous wrote:[quote=Anonymous]Those who can, do. Those who can't pursue HR.

Also, HR is used as a dumping ground by companies who can't fire the person for p.c. reasons.

Oh great, put the disgruntled person in with the salary information!

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Anonymous wrote:It's one thing to be annoyed with an individual's poor performance. It's another to malign whole swaths of professionals. We're ALL pissed at people who don't do their jobs well but somehow continue to be employed.

True. But why does this come up so often in HR versus other departments? I rarely hear anyone going on a tirade about incompetence in Accounts Payable, the IT department, or the Marketing division.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It's one thing to be annoyed with an individual's poor performance. It's another to malign whole swaths of professionals. We're ALL pissed at people who don't do their jobs well but somehow continue to be employed.

True. But why does this come up so often in HR versus other departments? I rarely hear anyone going on a tirade about incompetence in Accounts Payable, the IT department, or the Marketing division.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It's one thing to be annoyed with an individual's poor performance. It's another to malign whole swaths of professionals. We're ALL pissed at people who don't do their jobs well but somehow continue to be employed.

True. But why does this come up so often in HR versus other departments? I rarely hear anyone going on a tirade about incompetence in Accounts Payable, the IT department, or the Marketing division.

Because HR affects your pocket ($) directly whereas other "work" related functions, well, they affect you professionally (but you still get the same pay). So, frustration against HR feels much more personal. My two cents.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It's one thing to be annoyed with an individual's poor performance. It's another to malign whole swaths of professionals. We're ALL pissed at people who don't do their jobs well but somehow continue to be employed.

True. But why does this come up so often in HR versus other departments? I rarely hear anyone going on a tirade about incompetence in Accounts Payable, the IT department, or the Marketing division.

My own worst experiences have been with IT. Having to watch a so-called professional google my tech problem is infuriating. But they get away with it because people seem to assume that everyone is baffled by technology, so it's normal to not have the answers.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It's one thing to be annoyed with an individual's poor performance. It's another to malign whole swaths of professionals. We're ALL pissed at people who don't do their jobs well but somehow continue to be employed.

True. But why does this come up so often in HR versus other departments? I rarely hear anyone going on a tirade about incompetence in Accounts Payable, the IT department, or the Marketing division.

My own worst experiences have been with IT. Having to watch a so-called professional google my tech problem is infuriating. But they get away with it because people seem to assume that everyone is baffled by technology, so it's normal to not have the answers.

As a tech person (though not in IT support), I do that too. No one person can know the answer to all possible computer problems, so we have to look up the fixes for things frequently.

[Anonymous]

Outsource HR functions, done.

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Anonymous wrote:Think about how much $ could your org save by a RIF of HR (just keep benefits/payroll administration).

We are majorly RIFing HR here. Hallelujah.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It's one thing to be annoyed with an individual's poor performance. It's another to malign whole swaths of professionals. We're ALL pissed at people who don't do their jobs well but somehow continue to be employed.

True. But why does this come up so often in HR versus other departments? I rarely hear anyone going on a tirade about incompetence in Accounts Payable, the IT department, or the Marketing division.

My own worst experiences have been with IT. Having to watch a so-called professional google my tech problem is infuriating. But they get away with it because people seem to assume that everyone is baffled by technology, so it's normal to not have the answers.

As a tech person (though not in IT support), I do that too. No one person can know the answer to all possible computer problems, so we have to look up the fixes for things frequently.

Do it on your own time. Not while you're sitting in my chair clicking random stuff to see what might work. Anyway, most organizations have the same equipment running the same software throughout. It's not like they have to learn every OS and every programming language to clear out my corrupted drivers.