Baileys & Sleepy Hollow Parents - Proposed Vertical School Meetings This Week!

[Anonymous]

It's fascinating that they are considering creating a Bailey's annex. When that idea was proposed for Haycock (either at the old Pimmit Hills High School or at Lemon Road) it was laughed out of the meeting. The principals vehemently opposed it and the school board wouldn't even consider it. yet now it's their plan?

I'm not saying it's a bad idea. I happen to think it is well worth considering. I just think it's funny that it wasn't even worth discussing for Haycock when it was an actual school building that would house the students, yet for Bailey's an office building is good enough. Clearly, the Bailey's parents don't have the same clout and they don't complain nearly as much (in contrast to the Haycock parents, they seem to be very open minded about finding a solution).

I hope FCPS takes good care of them. They deserve it for putting up with all of this.

[Anonymous]

How do these programs cost extra money? There is no bussing provided. The parents have to provide their own transportation.

Well, the Arts kids were bussed in once upon a time. I thought they were, still. Also, any additional program costs money in administrative and other bureaucratic expenditures.

[Anonymous]

http://www.fcps.edu/BaileysES/staff_directory.html

Check out the number of music and art teachers. Also, a drama teacher, band teachers, etc.............click on position to alphabetize it by subject.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Didn't realize they also had immersion. They need to get rid of any program that brings in outside kids. In fact, this should be done all across the county. Costs extra money. It is a place to start.

How do these programs cost extra money? There is no bussing provided. The parents have to provide their own transportation.

Buses are provided at various locations, so if parents provide their own transportation it's because they choose to. Plus, the magnet and immersion programs are adding kids to an already grossly overcrowded school. If a school is overcrowded, all outside boundary transfers should stop, otherwise you're doing a disservice to the in boundary kids who have no choice but to attend the grossly overcrowded school.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It's fascinating that they are considering creating a Bailey's annex. When that idea was proposed for Haycock (either at the old Pimmit Hills High School or at Lemon Road) it was laughed out of the meeting. The principals vehemently opposed it and the school board wouldn't even consider it. yet now it's their plan?

I'm not saying it's a bad idea. I happen to think it is well worth considering. I just think it's funny that it wasn't even worth discussing for Haycock when it was an actual school building that would house the students, yet for Bailey's an office building is good enough. Clearly, the Bailey's parents don't have the same clout and they don't complain nearly as much (in contrast to the Haycock parents, they seem to be very open minded about finding a solution).

I hope FCPS takes good care of them. They deserve it for putting up with all of this.

You are right, Bailey's parents don't have the same clout, and FCPS has become very adept at imposing a beggars can't be choosers attitude toward the school.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It's fascinating that they are considering creating a Bailey's annex. When that idea was proposed for Haycock (either at the old Pimmit Hills High School or at Lemon Road) it was laughed out of the meeting. The principals vehemently opposed it and the school board wouldn't even consider it. yet now it's their plan?

I'm not saying it's a bad idea. I happen to think it is well worth considering. I just think it's funny that it wasn't even worth discussing for Haycock when it was an actual school building that would house the students, yet for Bailey's an office building is good enough. Clearly, the Bailey's parents don't have the same clout and they don't complain nearly as much (in contrast to the Haycock parents, they seem to be very open minded about finding a solution).

I hope FCPS takes good care of them. They deserve it for putting up with all of this.

Big difference. In the Haycock situation, there was plenty of extra capacity at Lemon Road, the elementary school next to Haycock. There isn't similar capacity at Glen Forest or Sleepy Hollow, the schools near Bailey's. I also think Bailey's parents get props for their patience, but your comparison isn't really on point.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It's fascinating that they are considering creating a Bailey's annex. When that idea was proposed for Haycock (either at the old Pimmit Hills High School or at Lemon Road) it was laughed out of the meeting. The principals vehemently opposed it and the school board wouldn't even consider it. yet now it's their plan?

I'm not saying it's a bad idea. I happen to think it is well worth considering. I just think it's funny that it wasn't even worth discussing for Haycock when it was an actual school building that would house the students, yet for Bailey's an office building is good enough. Clearly, the Bailey's parents don't have the same clout and they don't complain nearly as much (in contrast to the Haycock parents, they seem to be very open minded about finding a solution).

I hope FCPS takes good care of them. They deserve it for putting up with all of this.

Big difference. In the Haycock situation, there was plenty of extra capacity at Lemon Road, the elementary school next to Haycock. There isn't similar capacity at Glen Forest or Sleepy Hollow, the schools near Bailey's. I also think Bailey's parents get props for their patience, but your comparison isn't really on point.

It's actually not that far off. Don't kid yourself if you don't think the higher SES of the Haycock parents and the fact that many of them are lawyers and lobbyists and the types that know how to be heard doesn't matter.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It's fascinating that they are considering creating a Bailey's annex. When that idea was proposed for Haycock (either at the old Pimmit Hills High School or at Lemon Road) it was laughed out of the meeting. The principals vehemently opposed it and the school board wouldn't even consider it. yet now it's their plan?

I'm not saying it's a bad idea. I happen to think it is well worth considering. I just think it's funny that it wasn't even worth discussing for Haycock when it was an actual school building that would house the students, yet for Bailey's an office building is good enough. Clearly, the Bailey's parents don't have the same clout and they don't complain nearly as much (in contrast to the Haycock parents, they seem to be very open minded about finding a solution).

I hope FCPS takes good care of them. They deserve it for putting up with all of this.

Big difference. In the Haycock situation, there was plenty of extra capacity at Lemon Road, the elementary school next to Haycock. There isn't similar capacity at Glen Forest or Sleepy Hollow, the schools near Bailey's. I also think Bailey's parents get props for their patience, but your comparison isn't really on point.

It's actually not that far off. Don't kid yourself if you don't think the higher SES of the Haycock parents and the fact that many of them are lawyers and lobbyists and the types that know how to be heard doesn't matter.

It's all well and good to make SES comparisons, but if the Haycock parents were as powerful as you suggest the school never would have been become so overcrowded and it would already be renovated. Had the capacity not existed at Lemon Road, and the only option had been to open an annex at Pimmit Hills, that might have been pursued. Conversely, if there were 300 available seats at Sleepy Hollow, that might be an alternative to converting the building on Route 7 to an annex. There aren't.

[Anonymous]

Does anyone know the population number at Bailey's without the special programs?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It's fascinating that they are considering creating a Bailey's annex. When that idea was proposed for Haycock (either at the old Pimmit Hills High School or at Lemon Road) it was laughed out of the meeting. The principals vehemently opposed it and the school board wouldn't even consider it. yet now it's their plan?

I'm not saying it's a bad idea. I happen to think it is well worth considering. I just think it's funny that it wasn't even worth discussing for Haycock when it was an actual school building that would house the students, yet for Bailey's an office building is good enough. Clearly, the Bailey's parents don't have the same clout and they don't complain nearly as much (in contrast to the Haycock parents, they seem to be very open minded about finding a solution).

I hope FCPS takes good care of them. They deserve it for putting up with all of this.

Big difference. In the Haycock situation, there was plenty of extra capacity at Lemon Road, the elementary school next to Haycock. There isn't similar capacity at Glen Forest or Sleepy Hollow, the schools near Bailey's. I also think Bailey's parents get props for their patience, but your comparison isn't really on point.

It's actually not that far off. Don't kid yourself if you don't think the higher SES of the Haycock parents and the fact that many of them are lawyers and lobbyists and the types that know how to be heard doesn't matter.

It's all well and good to make SES comparisons, but if the Haycock parents were as powerful as you suggest the school never would have been become so overcrowded and it would already be renovated. Had the capacity not existed at Lemon Road, and the only option had been to open an annex at Pimmit Hills, that might have been pursued. Conversely, if there were 300 available seats at Sleepy Hollow, that might be an alternative to converting the building on Route 7 to an annex. There aren't.

Yes, except those 300 seats at Lemon Road weren't exactly "available." They were slated to relieve overcrowding at Freedom Hill and Shrevewood, so now those schools are overcrowded, but whatever, as long as the Haycock parents are happy.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It's fascinating that they are considering creating a Bailey's annex. When that idea was proposed for Haycock (either at the old Pimmit Hills High School or at Lemon Road) it was laughed out of the meeting. The principals vehemently opposed it and the school board wouldn't even consider it. yet now it's their plan?

I'm not saying it's a bad idea. I happen to think it is well worth considering. I just think it's funny that it wasn't even worth discussing for Haycock when it was an actual school building that would house the students, yet for Bailey's an office building is good enough. Clearly, the Bailey's parents don't have the same clout and they don't complain nearly as much (in contrast to the Haycock parents, they seem to be very open minded about finding a solution).

I hope FCPS takes good care of them. They deserve it for putting up with all of this.

Big difference. In the Haycock situation, there was plenty of extra capacity at Lemon Road, the elementary school next to Haycock. There isn't similar capacity at Glen Forest or Sleepy Hollow, the schools near Bailey's. I also think Bailey's parents get props for their patience, but your comparison isn't really on point.

It's actually not that far off. Don't kid yourself if you don't think the higher SES of the Haycock parents and the fact that many of them are lawyers and lobbyists and the types that know how to be heard doesn't matter.

It's all well and good to make SES comparisons, but if the Haycock parents were as powerful as you suggest the school never would have been become so overcrowded and it would already be renovated. Had the capacity not existed at Lemon Road, and the only option had been to open an annex at Pimmit Hills, that might have been pursued. Conversely, if there were 300 available seats at Sleepy Hollow, that might be an alternative to converting the building on Route 7 to an annex. There aren't.

Yes, except those 300 seats at Lemon Road weren't exactly "available." They were slated to relieve overcrowding at Freedom Hill and Shrevewood, so now those schools are overcrowded, but whatever, as long as the Haycock parents are happy.

That was one possibility, until the School Board identified an alternative, preferable use for the additional seats. Neither Freedom Hill nor Shrevewood is as overcrowded as Haycock was, and no specific plans had been floated to move additional kids from Freedom Hill or Shrevewood to Lemon Road.

However, if growth in the Tysons area continues, recommissioning Pimmit Hills Alternative as an elementary school that draws Cluster 2 kids from Freedom Hill, Shrevewood and Westgate might be a good idea. I'm sure Bailey's-area parents would love to have a similar site close to them right now, but there isn't, which is why the Board is pursuing the conversion of the office building on Route 7. Having schools on Route 7 may be less than ideal, but this one would certainly not be the first in the area.

[Anonymous]

They're taking an office building from another owner through eminent domain. Not really a solution they came up with. They're just exercising their greater power.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:They're taking an office building from another owner through eminent domain. Not really a solution they came up with. They're just exercising their greater power.

What is the point of this comment? What does "not really a solution they came up with" mean? If they didn't come up with it, who did?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:They're taking an office building from another owner through eminent domain. Not really a solution they came up with. They're just exercising their greater power.

What is the point of this comment? What does "not really a solution they came up with" mean? If they didn't come up with it, who did?

+1. Not to mention that the sale may end up being negotiated.

[Anonymous]

So why was the Woodrow Wilson library/school combo turned down?