Alexandria City Elementary Transfers: How?

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Anonymous wrote:The other negative thing about the MVCS mandatory dual language program that we found particularly unnerving, is that while it is proposed for 2014 that the school move to an all immersion program starting in K (with no opt out for Kindergarteners in 2014), there is no continuity into the middle school years. What is the point of a child being taught math and since solely in Spanish, only to then get to middle school where everyone is being taught those subjects in English? The dual language/immersion doesn't roll cohesively into middle school! What's the point then? If anything, those students could be potentially at a disadvantage in math.

It's a poorly thought-out program right now, solely intended to benefit the ESL students in the zone. There is nothing "progessive" or "cutting edge" about it. It's for pure necessity and nothing more.

I think people who live in Del Ray with small children are misled by visits to the playgrounds on weekends. if you really want to get a sense of the school, you need to tour during the week while school is in session. The community that attends the playground on the weekends is a markedly different demographic than the actual students who actually attend the school!




I can't imagine how a Hispanic person reading these boards must feel. The horror--being in an immersion program with other kids who speak the language. And 33% of the school is white. So, yes, many of the kids you see on the playground on the weekend attend this school. But I love how you're deciding the rest of the kids are "undesirables" based solely on their non-whiteness. You guys can blather on about test scores and safety ratings all you want, but when you drive by the school and don't see all white kids running around, and then are horrified...you're just plain racist. So, racist, run off to your all-white schools and try to get into your "cutting-edge" immersion program. I don't want your racist kids hanging out with my kids, anyway.


Touchy, Touchy, aren't we? You must be one of the Del Rayers who bought during the bubble and cannot sell now.... I didn't interpret this poster as being racist at all, but stating a fact. We also live in Del Ray, and it's true. Anyone who is thinking about sending their kids to MVCS needs to visit the school while it is in session to get the full sense of what the program is about. We did. And, it's also true that the demographic attending the school during the weekdays IS different then the families that visit the playground on the weekends. It's not racist by any means, it's fact! The greatly white yuppies and their kids visit the playground on the weekends, whereas during the week the school is 60% hispanic. There's nothing wrong with that, it's the way it is. And the school is an immersion program in order to increase test scores because so many ESL kids are there. Nothing racist about that, either. The principal is very clear about that during his tours. He said point blank that over 60% of the student body is latino, and that 30% is white. he also said that of the white population, 90% of those kids are in the TAG program.

MVCS is not desirable for everyone. And I can understand how someone who is zoned for MVCS might be put-off by the fact that their rising Kindergarteners will be all but forced into Spanish immersion. This is especially concerning for parents of native English speakers who may have language or learning issues already. what makes it worse is that there are no good options for people who do not want to send their kids to MVCS except to move elsewhere. Spanish shouldn't be "forced down" the throats of tax payers with English speaking children.


No, we actually bought at a really good time and would make a nice profit if we sold today. And it's likely we'll be transferred to another city this year, so I'm not what you'd call an ACPS "booster" because I'm not that invested in the schools and have no firsthand knowledge of the curriculum. (I do however know plenty of neighborhood people happy with MVCS and ACPS). But regardless, reading these boards really turns my stomach. The students who go here are the kids in my community, and you treat them like they have a communicable disease.
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No, we actually bought at a really good time and would make a nice profit if we sold today. And it's likely we'll be transferred to another city this year, so I'm not what you'd call an ACPS "booster" because I'm not that invested in the schools and have no firsthand knowledge of the curriculum. (I do however know plenty of neighborhood people happy with MVCS and ACPS). But regardless, reading these boards really turns my stomach. The students who go here are the kids in my community, and you treat them like they have a communicable disease.


In fact, those kids are not in your community and those who live in Del Ray are very careful to make sure that everyone knows there is a distinction between Del Ray boundary and Arlandria.
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Anonymous wrote:The other negative thing about the MVCS mandatory dual language program that we found particularly unnerving, is that while it is proposed for 2014 that the school move to an all immersion program starting in K (with no opt out for Kindergarteners in 2014), there is no continuity into the middle school years. What is the point of a child being taught math and since solely in Spanish, only to then get to middle school where everyone is being taught those subjects in English? The dual language/immersion doesn't roll cohesively into middle school! What's the point then? If anything, those students could be potentially at a disadvantage in math.

It's a poorly thought-out program right now, solely intended to benefit the ESL students in the zone. There is nothing "progessive" or "cutting edge" about it. It's for pure necessity and nothing more.

I think people who live in Del Ray with small children are misled by visits to the playgrounds on weekends. if you really want to get a sense of the school, you need to tour during the week while school is in session. The community that attends the playground on the weekends is a markedly different demographic than the actual students who actually attend the school!




If it were pure necessity, then wouldn't Cora Kelly and (possibly) William Ramsay do immersion too?
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The other negative thing about the MVCS mandatory dual language program that we found particularly unnerving, is that while it is proposed for 2014 that the school move to an all immersion program starting in K (with no opt out for Kindergarteners in 2014), there is no continuity into the middle school years. What is the point of a child being taught math and since solely in Spanish, only to then get to middle school where everyone is being taught those subjects in English? The dual language/immersion doesn't roll cohesively into middle school! What's the point then? If anything, those students could be potentially at a disadvantage in math.

It's a poorly thought-out program right now, solely intended to benefit the ESL students in the zone. There is nothing "progessive" or "cutting edge" about it. It's for pure necessity and nothing more.

I think people who live in Del Ray with small children are misled by visits to the playgrounds on weekends. if you really want to get a sense of the school, you need to tour during the week while school is in session. The community that attends the playground on the weekends is a markedly different demographic than the actual students who actually attend the school!




If it were pure necessity, then wouldn't Cora Kelly and (possibly) William Ramsay do immersion too?


I cannot speak to Ramsay, but I believe Cora Kelly is not majority ESL.
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Cora Kelly is 40% Hispanic; Ramsay is 44%, and Mt Vernon is 55%. Not that that's a perfect proxy for ESL (as obviously some Hispanic kids may have learned English as a first language, and there are likely non-Hispanic ESL kids at all 3 schools (though that wouldn't make a Spanish immersion program "a necessity.")
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