Anyone in bound for Deal but choosing Basis?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:All grand sounding 21:58 but I'm waiting to see who's left in 12th grade (my kids are in preschool). If most of the white and Asian kids who started in 5th are gone by then, forget it. Linear algebra at age 15, fabulous, still don't want the ghetto social issues.

Hopefully you'll figure out you don't want to be there long before 5th... I feel sorry for your kids but to have you as a fellow parent in the BASIS community all those long years sounds awful and traumatic for everyone else. And since often kids absorb their parents problems as well as their strengths... your kids are probably no joy to be around either.

Win-win if you find somewhere else ASAP and your and your kids are happy, and the rest of us can go on with one less ignorant awful parent at BASIS. Although, obviously, some school will still have to deal with you... feeling sorry for them as well.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:OP here. My son would benefit from that small setting you are talking about, PP. What you are saying is indeed very encouraging. Today he is falling through the cracks, because he is a quiet, unobtrusive boy. He never gives the teacher any troubles, so from her vintage point, there is no problem. From mine, there is. He is getting the short end of the stick. He is only reluctantly rising his hand at school. He is getting bored, while getting used to the idea that he is at best average, just because he is not making noise at all cost, like some kids do, whom the school system seems to favor. I feel he would adapt to a huge school like Deal, but would thrive and really let his talents blossom in a smaller setting like Basis.

I posted from another thread, about my quiet child going to Deal versus BASIS or Latin, so I was so glad to find your post as well. We are moving ahead with our plans to have him attend BASIS next year, and although I think it will be quite a transition, what I want for him is more than they can offer at Deal. He's simply too quiet to make a fuss about it, and I do believe will simply fall through the cracks. I know raising his hand is not part of his grade, but the teachers are always mentioning it at conferences. I'm so over that. And since Wilson is not an option for us, I will only be looking for HS after 3 years of Deal, so why not hold him to the higher standards that BASIS offers and have him eventually enjoy school? I will go and look at Latin, just to compare, but I pretty much have my mind set on sending this child to a place that will encourage more from him, expect more for him, in a way that will eventually give him some internalized satisfaction with his academic skills. Or at least that's my hope!!!!

I know some people will not approve, but every grading period they have an awards ceremony that parents attend. It is exclusively for academics, and the kids in the grade (they only do it one grade at a time) are called up for honors, the 90's club, and the top 5% of the class. And Most Improved, which has never been the same kid twice. This may sound brutal but it is one way of rewarding academics, and good for my kid to understand that sometimes because he is advanced in math he will not always make all three categories. I think like sports it teaches people to be graceful winners and losers but recognizes what the school (and we) really value. So yes he will get external and internal satisfaction and pride for his academic skills. When everyone is clueless, the teachers also tell the kids that only 25% of the class passed a quiz, or 45% flunked, etc. You and he will always know where he stands because of the CJ. And the kids who win the science bowl etc get recognized in the weekly paper.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:No, Algebra 1 in fifth. Algebra 2 in sixth. This is the program for the most advanced math students (two years ahead).

The average BASIS student does "Math 7/8" in fifth, Pre-Algebra in sixth, Algebra 1 in seventh and Algebra 2 in eighth.

I highly doubt this is happening. I have taught 5th and 6th grade in Fairfax County for 15 years. This is one of the top school districts in the country with students who have access to incredible resources. The earliest that anyone takes Algebra 1 is 7th grade. And to get into that, you have to be a 6th grader with a score in the 92nd percentile on Iowa (basically a power test--solving complex word problems in a timed setting) and then score pass advanced on the 7th grade math SOL (the state test). Not only is it developmentally inappropriate to teach Algebra that young, I highly doubt that there are enough students who entered through a random lottery that are even close to being ready for it at 5th grade. Do kids learn algebraic concepts during elementary school? Absolutely. But to say with a straight face that there are regular Algebra 1 classes in fifth grade and that "average" student is taking Algebra 1 in 7th is nonsense.

My son is doing Algebra II in 6th with 3 others, plus a few 7th and 8th graders. Most were in the STARS program (the after school program offered to all admitted fourth graders) and the math teacher taught him a lot last year while he was still doing long division at his other school, and welcomed him and a few other familiar faces to the class this fall. Very small class and it has a fair amount of geometry and trig mixed in there. Although he spends more time on math than any other subject, he is consistently making honor role and acing Physics because there is a lot of math in there that he can sort of intuitively extract and do really quickly.

But he is also learning and understanding a lot in chemistry and biology, and was diagramming sentences in English and using "standard Basis notation" for parts of speech in English and Latin. I assume this will carry over to whatever language he chooses next year.

I don't know what is developmentally appropriate for all students, but my son is loving it. And they were happy to have an "advanced" math class for less than ten students, not all in the same grade. I don't know what math the other kids are doing, but here is a brief hurrah for the lymphatic system, the Missouri Compromise, specific energy, vectors, and the Monroe doctrine. He has probably learned more this year than I did in all my classes from fifth until high school.

So, your presumably barely 11 year old is taking Algebra II currently, along with physics, biology and chemistry in 6th grade. You know, pumping up a charter schools by lying about the curricula really isn't going to fool anyone here. You should stick to the plausible and build up to the crazy trailing off about the Missouri Compromise and the Monroe Doctrine. That would have been more believable.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP here. My son would benefit from that small setting you are talking about, PP. What you are saying is indeed very encouraging. Today he is falling through the cracks, because he is a quiet, unobtrusive boy. He never gives the teacher any troubles, so from her vintage point, there is no problem. From mine, there is. He is getting the short end of the stick. He is only reluctantly rising his hand at school. He is getting bored, while getting used to the idea that he is at best average, just because he is not making noise at all cost, like some kids do, whom the school system seems to favor. I feel he would adapt to a huge school like Deal, but would thrive and really let his talents blossom in a smaller setting like Basis.

I posted from another thread, about my quiet child going to Deal versus BASIS or Latin, so I was so glad to find your post as well. We are moving ahead with our plans to have him attend BASIS next year, and although I think it will be quite a transition, what I want for him is more than they can offer at Deal. He's simply too quiet to make a fuss about it, and I do believe will simply fall through the cracks. I know raising his hand is not part of his grade, but the teachers are always mentioning it at conferences. I'm so over that. And since Wilson is not an option for us, I will only be looking for HS after 3 years of Deal, so why not hold him to the higher standards that BASIS offers and have him eventually enjoy school? I will go and look at Latin, just to compare, but I pretty much have my mind set on sending this child to a place that will encourage more from him, expect more for him, in a way that will eventually give him some internalized satisfaction with his academic skills. Or at least that's my hope!!!!

Why is Wilson not an option? You're in bound for Deal, you could probably go to Wilson.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:All grand sounding 21:58 but I'm waiting to see who's left in 12th grade (my kids are in preschool). If most of the white and Asian kids who started in 5th are gone by then, forget it. Linear algebra at age 15, fabulous, still don't want the ghetto social issues.

PP, hopefully a giant anvil will drop on you before any school has to deal with you at all.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP here. My son would benefit from that small setting you are talking about, PP. What you are saying is indeed very encouraging. Today he is falling through the cracks, because he is a quiet, unobtrusive boy. He never gives the teacher any troubles, so from her vintage point, there is no problem. From mine, there is. He is getting the short end of the stick. He is only reluctantly rising his hand at school. He is getting bored, while getting used to the idea that he is at best average, just because he is not making noise at all cost, like some kids do, whom the school system seems to favor. I feel he would adapt to a huge school like Deal, but would thrive and really let his talents blossom in a smaller setting like Basis.

I posted from another thread, about my quiet child going to Deal versus BASIS or Latin, so I was so glad to find your post as well. We are moving ahead with our plans to have him attend BASIS next year, and although I think it will be quite a transition, what I want for him is more than they can offer at Deal. He's simply too quiet to make a fuss about it, and I do believe will simply fall through the cracks. I know raising his hand is not part of his grade, but the teachers are always mentioning it at conferences. I'm so over that. And since Wilson is not an option for us, I will only be looking for HS after 3 years of Deal, so why not hold him to the higher standards that BASIS offers and have him eventually enjoy school? I will go and look at Latin, just to compare, but I pretty much have my mind set on sending this child to a place that will encourage more from him, expect more for him, in a way that will eventually give him some internalized satisfaction with his academic skills. Or at least that's my hope!!!!

Why is Wilson not an option? You're in bound for Deal, you could probably go to Wilson.

They must live in Shepard Park.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:No, Algebra 1 in fifth. Algebra 2 in sixth. This is the program for the most advanced math students (two years ahead).

The average BASIS student does "Math 7/8" in fifth, Pre-Algebra in sixth, Algebra 1 in seventh and Algebra 2 in eighth.

I highly doubt this is happening. I have taught 5th and 6th grade in Fairfax County for 15 years. This is one of the top school districts in the country with students who have access to incredible resources. The earliest that anyone takes Algebra 1 is 7th grade. And to get into that, you have to be a 6th grader with a score in the 92nd percentile on Iowa (basically a power test--solving complex word problems in a timed setting) and then score pass advanced on the 7th grade math SOL (the state test). Not only is it developmentally inappropriate to teach Algebra that young, I highly doubt that there are enough students who entered through a random lottery that are even close to being ready for it at 5th grade. Do kids learn algebraic concepts during elementary school? Absolutely. But to say with a straight face that there are regular Algebra 1 classes in fifth grade and that "average" student is taking Algebra 1 in 7th is nonsense.

My son is doing Algebra II in 6th with 3 others, plus a few 7th and 8th graders. Most were in the STARS program (the after school program offered to all admitted fourth graders) and the math teacher taught him a lot last year while he was still doing long division at his other school, and welcomed him and a few other familiar faces to the class this fall. Very small class and it has a fair amount of geometry and trig mixed in there. Although he spends more time on math than any other subject, he is consistently making honor role and acing Physics because there is a lot of math in there that he can sort of intuitively extract and do really quickly.

But he is also learning and understanding a lot in chemistry and biology, and was diagramming sentences in English and using "standard Basis notation" for parts of speech in English and Latin. I assume this will carry over to whatever language he chooses next year.

I don't know what is developmentally appropriate for all students, but my son is loving it. And they were happy to have an "advanced" math class for less than ten students, not all in the same grade. I don't know what math the other kids are doing, but here is a brief hurrah for the lymphatic system, the Missouri Compromise, specific energy, vectors, and the Monroe doctrine. He has probably learned more this year than I did in all my classes from fifth until high school.

So, your presumably barely 11 year old is taking Algebra II currently, along with physics, biology and chemistry in 6th grade. You know, pumping up a charter schools by lying about the curricula really isn't going to fool anyone here. You should stick to the plausible and build up to the crazy trailing off about the Missouri Compromise and the Monroe Doctrine. That would have been more believable.

No one is lying. All of the 6th graders take physics, biology, chemistry, and US history.

[Anonymous]

6th grade clases: https://www.basisschools.org/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=87&Itemid=399

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:6th grade clases: https://www.basisschools.org/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=87&Itemid=399

I am very excited about what I read here about Basis. It almost sounds too good to be true. I am the OP, by the way. What is the catch?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

So, your presumably barely 11 year old is taking Algebra II currently, along with physics, biology and chemistry in 6th grade. You know, pumping up a charter schools by lying about the curricula really isn't going to fool anyone here. You should stick to the plausible and build up to the crazy trailing off about the Missouri Compromise and the Monroe Doctrine. That would have been more believable.

No one is lying . Ask the school if you do not believe it. I know for a fact that there are 4 kids taking Algebra 1 in 5th grade. There are at least 2 classes of 6th graders taking Algebra 1 from what I know as well. Additionally there are several 6th graders taking Algebra 2 that I have personally met. Lastly, it is standard fare for 6th graders on up to take 9 hours of science a week that includes Biology, Chemistry, and Physics classes. Even the 5th graders Intro to Science class which meets daily covers Biology, Chemistry, and now Physics. Plus, the 5th graders take Physical geography daily which covers not only geography but also earth science.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:6th grade clases: https://www.basisschools.org/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=87&Itemid=399

I am very excited about what I read here about Basis. It almost sounds too good to be true. I am the OP, by the way. What is the catch?

No catch but by way of explanation 3 classes of each science a week not 5 classes of each so they can fit it in
Also algebra covers a bit of earlier math so it's not really beyond many 6th graders

A benefit of the 3 science classes a year for 3 years instead of one each year is kids can really have time to evolve their understanding so when they take honors or ap science in high school it's not a shock

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:6th grade clases: https://www.basisschools.org/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=87&Itemid=399

I am very excited about what I read here about Basis. It almost sounds too good to be true. I am the OP, by the way. What is the catch?

No catch but by way of explanation 3 classes of each science a week not 5 classes of each so they can fit it in
Also algebra covers a bit of earlier math so it's not really beyond many 6th graders

A benefit of the 3 science classes a year for 3 years instead of one each year is kids can really have time to evolve their understanding so when they take honors or ap science in high school it's not a shock

I have to disagree about the Algebra 1 course. It is a full fledged high school Algebra 1 course that includes the quadratic formula. The Algebra 1/2 course is part pre-algebra and part algebra.

Here is s ampler page that includes some of the 3rd edition Algebra 1.

http://saxonhomeschool.hmhco.com/HA/correlations/pdf/s/Saxon_Math_Upper_Grades_Sampler.pdf

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:6th grade clases: https://www.basisschools.org/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=87&Itemid=399

I am very excited about what I read here about Basis. It almost sounds too good to be true. I am the OP, by the way. What is the catch?

No catch but by way of explanation 3 classes of each science a week not 5 classes of each so they can fit it in
Also algebra covers a bit of earlier math so it's not really beyond many 6th graders

A benefit of the 3 science classes a year for 3 years instead of one each year is kids can really have time to evolve their understanding so when they take honors or ap science in high school it's not a shock

I have to disagree about the Algebra 1 course. It is a full fledged high school Algebra 1 course that includes the quadratic formula. The Algebra 1/2 course is part pre-algebra and part algebra.

Here is s ampler page that includes some of the 3rd edition Algebra 1.

http://saxonhomeschool.hmhco.com/HA/correlations/pdf/s/Saxon_Math_Upper_Grades_Sampler.pdf

My kid is really young (nowhere near 5th grade), but does BASIS really use home school materials?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:6th grade clases: https://www.basisschools.org/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=87&Itemid=399

I am very excited about what I read here about Basis. It almost sounds too good to be true. I am the OP, by the way. What is the catch?

No catch but by way of explanation 3 classes of each science a week not 5 classes of each so they can fit it in
Also algebra covers a bit of earlier math so it's not really beyond many 6th graders

A benefit of the 3 science classes a year for 3 years instead of one each year is kids can really have time to evolve their understanding so when they take honors or ap science in high school it's not a shock

I have to disagree about the Algebra 1 course. It is a full fledged high school Algebra 1 course that includes the quadratic formula. The Algebra 1/2 course is part pre-algebra and part algebra.

Here is s ampler page that includes some of the 3rd edition Algebra 1.

http://saxonhomeschool.hmhco.com/HA/correlations/pdf/s/Saxon_Math_Upper_Grades_Sampler.pdf

My kid is really young (nowhere near 5th grade), but does BASIS really use home school materials?

Saxon Math is used in many public schools, private schools, and homeschools. The publisher, Houghton Mifflin Harcourt, I am sure has another web site for schools to buy and use Saxon math. I happen to only be familiar with the Saxon homeschool site which is also put out by this educational publisher.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:6th grade clases: https://www.basisschools.org/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=87&Itemid=399

I am very excited about what I read here about Basis. It almost sounds too good to be true. I am the OP, by the way. What is the catch?

No catch but by way of explanation 3 classes of each science a week not 5 classes of each so they can fit it in
Also algebra covers a bit of earlier math so it's not really beyond many 6th graders

A benefit of the 3 science classes a year for 3 years instead of one each year is kids can really have time to evolve their understanding so when they take honors or ap science in high school it's not a shock

I have to disagree about the Algebra 1 course. It is a full fledged high school Algebra 1 course that includes the quadratic formula. The Algebra 1/2 course is part pre-algebra and part algebra.

Here is s ampler page that includes some of the 3rd edition Algebra 1.

http://saxonhomeschool.hmhco.com/HA/correlations/pdf/s/Saxon_Math_Upper_Grades_Sampler.pdf

My kid is really young (nowhere near 5th grade), but does BASIS really use home school materials?

Saxon Math is used in many public schools, private schools, and homeschools. The publisher, Houghton Mifflin Harcourt, I am sure has another web site for schools to buy and use Saxon math. I happen to only be familiar with the Saxon homeschool site which is also put out by this educational publisher.

Got it, thanks. Clearly my kid is very young. She does no math right now.