White privilege and this election

Anonymous
Please pardon the typo, I meant our country.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Please pardon the typo, I meant our country.


Of course. Now, how about your subject/verb agreement problems? Want to correct those too?

Signed,

A member of the black community who's "improved" herself . . . . or at least others' grammar.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
I will have to say that I disagree with you. It is not the data, but how it is interpreted that is disturbing. To know that answer, you would have to actually do double blinded studies to look at actual hiring patterns. People's opinions do not necessarily carry over to reality. I personally know one person who does not like to sit next to Blacks, how can that result in fairness? This gets back to the old Bell Curve thing, which is too far off base. Implicit Association tests show that almost all Whites have some racial bias. Other studies have shown other phenotypic differences such as height positively affecting income.

Something just does not add up.


May I respectfully suggest that you wait to see the published study before you criticize it? You might be surprised to learn that we're not complete idiots. I'm the only one of the authors who is white, but I'm sure my colleagues would be equally offended by your reference to the pseudoscience of The Bell Curve.


I never said that you are idiots. It is a bit concerning that you say that you objectively studied this, as an academician, but your defensiveness seems personal, which seems unprofessional. That said, I have a lot of trouble understanding why so much about appearance has been shown to affect our lives, but according to you, only race or skin color has no bearing. I prefer not to continue if you go down the DCUM path of using terms like "idiot". I also do not care what the race of the investigators were.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
I will have to say that I disagree with you. It is not the data, but how it is interpreted that is disturbing. To know that answer, you would have to actually do double blinded studies to look at actual hiring patterns. People's opinions do not necessarily carry over to reality. I personally know one person who does not like to sit next to Blacks, how can that result in fairness? This gets back to the old Bell Curve thing, which is too far off base. Implicit Association tests show that almost all Whites have some racial bias. Other studies have shown other phenotypic differences such as height positively affecting income.

Something just does not add up.


May I respectfully suggest that you wait to see the published study before you criticize it? You might be surprised to learn that we're not complete idiots. I'm the only one of the authors who is white, but I'm sure my colleagues would be equally offended by your reference to the pseudoscience of The Bell Curve.


I never said that you are idiots. It is a bit concerning that you say that you objectively studied this, as an academician, but your defensiveness seems personal, which seems unprofessional. That said, I have a lot of trouble understanding why so much about appearance has been shown to affect our lives, but according to you, only race or skin color has no bearing. I prefer not to continue if you go down the DCUM path of using terms like "idiot". I also do not care what the race of the investigators were.


If you knew anything at all about psychological or educational research you would know that appearing to compare other researchers' work to The Bell Curve is a guaranteed conversation-stopper. It is extraordinarily insulting.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Excellent piece!

...of crap!
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Please pardon the typo, I meant our country.


Of course. Now, how about your subject/verb agreement problems? Want to correct those too?

Signed,

A member of the black community who's "improved" herself . . . . or at least others' grammar.


That's so great for you. Now, perhaps you could help your community learn how to wear a pair of pants, and that a ho is used to dig in the dirt, not a person to be treated like dirt.

You snide elitist.
Anonymous
I just read this and thought it was thought provoking...

For those who still can't grasp the concept of white privilege, or who
are constantly looking for an easy-to-understand example of it,
perhaps this list will help.

White privilege is when you can get pregnant at seventeen like Bristol
Palin and everyone is quick to insist that your life and that of your
family is a personal matter, and that no one has a right to judge you,
or your parents, because "every family has challenges," even as black
and Latino families with similar "challenges" are regularly typified
as irresponsible, pathological and arbiters of social decay.

Umm…trust me, we typical white folk don’t like the idea of Bristol being pregnant and unmarried, but that is pretty much the society that Democrat lack of responsibility has set up for us. Watched MTV lately? Think the brainless kids that watch it and identify with the people on it are real concerned about Conservative values?

White privilege is when you can call yourself a "fuckin' redneck,"
like Bristol Palin's boyfriend does, who likes to "kick ass" if people
mess with you, and who likes to "shoot shit," for fun, and still be
viewed as a responsible, all-American boy (and a great son-in-law to
be) rather than a thug.

Black privilege is when you can call yourself a “nigga” like, dare I say, the vast majority of black youth in America do, who like to “bust a cap” if people mess with you, and still be viewed as a thug by tight-ass white Americans, because that is the way to gain respect and power.

White privilege is when you can attend four different colleges in six
years like Sarah Palin did (one of which you basically failed out of,
then returned to after making up some coursework at a community
college), and no one questions your intelligence or commitment to
achievement, whereas a person of color who did this would be viewed as
unfit for college, and probably someone who only got in in the first
place because of affirmative action.

Umm…concede, especially the Affirmative Action part. I will point out though that many blacks have used the AA to great effect, surpassing all the whites upon whose shoulders they stood.

White privilege is when you can claim that being mayor of a town
smaller than most medium-sized colleges, and then Governor of a state
with about the same number of people as the lower fifth of the island
of Manhattan makes you ready to potentially be president, and people
don't all piss on themselves with laughter, while being a black U.S.
Senator, two-term state Senator, and constitutional law scholar, means
you're "untested."

Black privilege is being a do-nothing lawyer, who bounced from nothing activist post to nothing activist post, never having to have held a REAL job, do virtually nothing as a state Senator, spend more time running for Federal office than you have in it, then spend more time running for president than you have doing the work of the people who elected you to represent them, and being able to captivate a bunch of moronic simpletons into supporting you based on a single word.

White privilege is being able to say that you support the words "under
God" in the pledge of allegiance because "if it was good enough or the
founding fathers, it's good enough for me," and not be immediately
disqualified from holding office–since, after all, the pledge was
written in the late 1800s and the "under God" part wasn't added until
the 1950s–while believing that reading accused criminals and
terrorists their rights (because, ya know, the constitution, which you
used to teach at a prestigious law school) requires it, is a dangerous
and silly idea only supported by mushy liberals.

Umm…are you saying that the founding fathers were not religious, and did not quote God often in both public and private? By the way…it’s freedom OF religion, not freedom FROM religion. Congrats Dems, Atheists, and ACLU for bastardizing the Constitution to fit your twisted anti-God agenda. Praise the Lord.

Second, are you indicating that foreign terrorists should be treated as criminals, not as enemy combatants? That terrorist activity should be treated as a crime, not an act of war? Are you really that daft?

White privilege is being able to be a gun enthusiast and not make
people immediately scared of you.

You’re breaking my heart. Stop the black on black gang violence, and pull up your pants, and wear your cap squarely on your head, and try generally not to look like a thug, and you will IMMEDIATELY gain more respect. Gun enthusiast or not.

White privilege is being able to have a husband who was a member of an
extremist political party that wanted your state to secede from the
union, and whose motto was "Alaska first," and no one questions your
patriotism or that of your family, while if you're black and your
spouse merely fails to come to a 9/11 memorial so she can be home with
her kids on the first day of school, people immediately think she's
being disrespectful.

Black privilege is being part of an extremist political party that disallows you from being a true patriot, even though you really aren’t to begin with because you don’t do the things patriots do, like put your hand over your heart, or say the pledge, or wear a lapel pin to show your solidarity with your (supposed) fellow countrymen after a terrorist (criminal) attack kills 3000 of them…

Oh, and, by the way…just like Sarah Palin has staffers and the ability to hire a nanny, so does Michelle “America is a downright mean country, for the first time I am proud of my country, justified in your own ignorance ... That's America” Obama.
Her job is to stand by her husbands side, and show herself to care about the country.


White privilege is being able to make fun of community organizers and
the work they do–like, among other things, fight for the right of
women to vote, or for civil rights, or the 8-hour workday, or an end
to child labor–and people think you're being pithy and tough, but if
you merely question the experience of a small town mayor and 18-month
governor with no foreign policy expertise beyond a class she took in
college–you're somehow being mean, or even sexist.

Black privilege is being able to be friends with an unrepentant domestic terrorist, launch your political career in his house, learn and fully utilize Saul Alinsky’s radical community activist tactics to force banks to loan money to people who cannot pay it back to avoid having their names besmirched, all while being caught up with ACORN, and having NO foreign policy experience beyond…well, having NO foreign policy experience and somehow being qualified to lead a scout troop, moreover a country.

White privilege is being able to convince white women who don't even
agree with you on any substantive issue to vote for you and your
running mate anyway, because all of a sudden your presence on the
ticket has inspired confidence in these same white women, and made
them give your party a "second look."

Perhaps he shouldn’t have alienated Hillary and her supporters, and in the end, he should have asked her to be his number two. He lost the opportunity because he’s black, or just not that savvy?

White privilege is being able to fire people who didn't support your
political campaigns and not be accused of abusing your power or being
a typical politician who engages in favoritism, while being black and
merely knowing some folks from the old-line political machines in
Chicago means you must be corrupt.

Idiot. The guy went behind her back and proposed his own budgetary policies, despite having been warned repeatedly. He deserved to be canned. And the brother in law? He tazered a 10 year old boy. He should have been fired for that alone for proving to be a psycho cop, and since the guys boss wouldn’t do it, he was insubordinate, and deserved to be fired. Either way, he deserved to be fired.
Associating with corrupt individuals shows a lack of judgment that we just cannot afford.

White privilege is being able to attend churches over the years whose
pastors say that people who voted for John Kerry or merely criticize
George W. Bush are going to hell, and that the U.S. is an explicitly
Christian nation and the job of Christians is to bring Christian
theological principles into government, and who bring in speakers who
say the conflict in the Middle East is God's punishment on Jews for
rejecting Jesus, and everyone can still think you're just a good
church-going Christian, but if you're black and friends with a black
pastor who has noted (as have Colin Powell and the U.S. Department of
Defense) that terrorist attacks are often the result of U.S. foreign
policy and who talks about the history of racism and its effect on
black people, you're an extremist who probably hates America.

I must concede through ignorance the first part, although this IS a vast majority Christian nation. Sorry.

The second part though…no way he sat in that pew for 20 years and didn’t know that Wright was preaching Black Liberation Theology. Wright is an anti-American racist, and Obama approves of that message. For 20 years.

White privilege is not knowing what the Bush Doctrine is when asked by
a reporter, and then people get angry at the reporter for asking you
such a "trick question," while being black and merely refusing to give
one-word answers to the queries of Bill O'Reilly means you're dodging
the question, or trying to seem overly intellectual and nuanced.

I’m sure you have a specific instance in mind on the O’Reilly thing. It was probably a yes or no answer O’Reilly was looking for. The Bush Doctrine? Whatever. Gibson is a tool, and only meant to give her a ‘Gotcha’ interview. The Bush Doctrine would likely be irrelevant anyway from the first day of the new administration.

White privilege is being able to claim your experience as a POW has
anything at all to do with your fitness for president, while being
black and experiencing racism is, as Sarah Palin has referred to it a
"light" burden.

Black privilege is being able to claim that 186 days in the Senate is enough to qualify you as a serious candidate for president, when you never offered up your life to protect this country because “ there were no active wars at the time”.

And finally, white privilege is the only thing that could possible
allow someone to become president when he has voted with George W.
Bush 90 percent of the time, even as unemployment is skyrocketing,
people are losing their homes, inflation is rising, and the U.S. is
increasingly isolated from world opinion, just because white voters
aren't sure about that whole "change" thing. Ya know, it's just too
vague and ill-defined, unlike, say, four more years of the same, which
is very concrete and certain…

And finally, black privilege is the only thing that could possibly
allow someone to become president when he has voted with the Democrat
party 90 percent of the time, even as unemployment is skyrocketing,
people are losing their homes, inflation is rising, and the U.S. is
increasingly isolated from world opinion, just because Liberal voters
think they have an idea what the whole "change" thing means.

White privilege is…the problem.
And black privilege is not the solution.
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