Bullis school

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Just the fAct that they circulate an "acceptance list" (as opposed to a class-specific matriculation list) shows they are trying to fudge the issue. They'd be better off not trying to inflate their college admissions data -- it just comes off as a bit desperate.

That's not fair. They make both acceptance and matriculation lists available.
http://www.bullis.org/academics/college-counseling...leges-attended-list/index.aspx

Sam2

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Just the fAct that they circulate an "acceptance list" (as opposed to a class-specific matriculation list) shows they are trying to fudge the issue. They'd be better off not trying to inflate their college admissions data -- it just comes off as a bit desperate.

That's not fair. They make both acceptance and matriculation lists available.
http://www.bullis.org/academics/college-counseling...leges-attended-list/index.aspx

Sam2

I think it is fair. Thy use an aggregate matriculation list (5 years) but a class-specific acceptance list.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Just the fAct that they circulate an "acceptance list" (as opposed to a class-specific matriculation list) shows they are trying to fudge the issue. They'd be better off not trying to inflate their college admissions data -- it just comes off as a bit desperate.

That's not fair. They make both acceptance and matriculation lists available.
http://www.bullis.org/academics/college-counseling...leges-attended-list/index.aspx

Sam2

I think it is fair. Thy use an aggregate matriculation list (5 years) but a class-specific acceptance list.

You're certainly entitled to your opinion. But speaking as someone who has spent an embarrassing amount of time poring over several years worth of info from dozens of different schools about college placement, I'd say Bullis is giving out lots more info than most schools. If they'd restricted themselves to just the acceptance list, I'd agree with you, but the five-year matriculation list is a pretty common tool for most schools to give out info while ensuring that one year's snapshot is not misleading.

[Anonymous]

Bullis students are rude. We were at a sporting event at Bullis recently and I was appalled at the obscenities that some Bullis students yelled at my 10 year old son and me in the parking lot before a sporting event last year.

[Anonymous]

Bullis students are rude. We were at a sporting event at Bullis recently and I was appalled at the obscenities that some Bullis students yelled at my 10 year old son and me in the parking lot.

[Anonymous]

Opps I meant last season.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Just the fAct that they circulate an "acceptance list" (as opposed to a class-specific matriculation list) shows they are trying to fudge the issue. They'd be better off not trying to inflate their college admissions data -- it just comes off as a bit desperate.

That's not fair. They make both acceptance and matriculation lists available.
http://www.bullis.org/academics/college-counseling...leges-attended-list/index.aspx

Sam2

I think it is fair. Thy use an aggregate matriculation list (5 years) but a class-specific acceptance list.

You're certainly entitled to your opinion. But speaking as someone who has spent an embarrassing amount of time poring over several years worth of info from dozens of different schools about college placement, I'd say Bullis is giving out lots more info than most schools. If they'd restricted themselves to just the acceptance list, I'd agree with you, but the five-year matriculation list is a pretty common tool for most schools to give out info while ensuring that one year's snapshot is not misleading.

I agree 5-year matriculation lists are not uncommon. "Acceptance lists" are a joke -- they are only used by schools that want to inflate their results (like Bullis). May 1 was the acceptance deadline for colleges. Bullis clearly has the info. -- why do they leave up the misleading acceptance list? Because one kid got into about four Ivies.

[Anonymous]

Maybe only one kid applied to the Ivies.

Not every student, family and school defines success or happiness by getting into a Harvard, Yale or Princeton.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Maybe only one kid applied to the Ivies.

Not every student, family and school defines success or happiness by getting into a Harvard, Yale or Princeton.

This reminds me of "Say Anything."

"By choice man!"

[Anonymous]

I'm a former college admissions officer and the parent of 4 kids who have graduated from or are current students at another DC-area independent school. On the basis of this experience, which includes 3 times through the college application process with our older kids, I would respectfully suggest that matriculation lists are a pretty useless measure of whether a school is a good match for your child. A matriculation list will tell you nothing about which students were hook applicants (e.g., development cases, legacies, recruited athletes, URM candidates), nor will it tell you anything about the strength of the school's college counseling program. More fundamentally, it will not tell you anything about how well-prepared these students are for college.

I would also note that at every school in this area -- including the very selective school my children attend/ed -- there are some kids who are academic high-flyers, others who are smack in the middle of the class, and still others who are struggling. Choosing a school should really be about your child's needs and whether a particular school can offer your child the opportunities and resources to thrive. That is a very individual assessment and metrics based on AP tests, SAT scores and matriculation stats don't yield much in the way of helpful insights.

[Anonymous]

Not disagreeing with your overall point, 11:13. However, schools do use college acceptances for marketing (why else post on external websites), and the old "accepted to college list" reminds me of restaurants that add in the gratuity. There's nothing obviously wrong -- they usually disclose it in writing on thei menus, right? But in practice it results in many people double-tipping. Just like many people look at college acceptance lists and don't realize that the 10 Listings for Ivy League schools are based on 2 kids who got into 5 Ivies. I think the schools know those lists will be misinterpreted and tacitly rely on that.

[Anonymous]

For 10:47

Lloyd Dobler: I don't want to sell anything, buy anything, or process anything as a career. I don't want to sell anything bought or processed, or buy anything sold or processed, or process anything sold, bought, or processed, or repair anything sold, bought, or processed. You know, as a career, I don't want to do that.

[Anonymous]

What is the social atmosphere like at Bullis?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Does Bullis make available a matriculation list to accompany the acceptance list? While acceptance lists are interesting, it's often hard to tell how representative they are of the student body. For example, you might draw one conclusion if one stellar student was admitted to Princeton, Yale, Dartmouth, Cornell, and Chicago. But you would draw a different conclusion if each of those acceptances was from a different student.

I included numbers to indicate multiple acceptances. Clearly we aren't talking about one student. It is true that Bullis embraces academic diversity. There are very academic students and those who are less academic and perhaps more sports inclined or artistically inclined. I just get tired of all the Bullis trashing. There is a fairly large cohort of very academic students. Frankly I got tired of the limited Landon, Holton and St. Albans students who assumed they were my daughter's betters while she was in high school. She's dusting them in college.

If you are stilll thinking about this now that your daughter is in college, I think you have too much time on your hands.[/quote

Pot meet kettle.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:, I would respectfully suggest that matriculation lists are a pretty useless measure of whether a school is a good match for your child. A matriculation list will tell you nothing about which students were hook applicants (e.g., development cases, legacies, recruited athletes, URM candidates), nor will it tell you anything about the strength of the school's college counseling program. More fundamentally, it will not tell you anything about how well-prepared these students are for college.

I totally agree with you
When the acceptance lists is the only thing the schools is talking about, I cannot help but think that they think that the parents are dumb.

One former Bullis student that I know went to Univ of Maryland. He could have gotten there from the local public.
But what school you land up in is not the issue. Did you child get to go and study what he wanted? Is the particular program the more respected one, i.e. are you studying engineering at Harvard, or forestry, landscaping and horticulture?