please explain the "no plastic toys/no batteries" school of thought

[Anonymous]

Is Marion Barry on here? What is with the nonsensical sayings? Those posters sound ridiculous! OP, if you have no problem with what your child is playing with, don't dream up problems. Some people clearly have too much time on their hands. They sound batsh*t crazy, and that is putting it nicely.

I am almost embarrassed to be part of this generation of mothers. It is crystal clear that they are failing miserably at overcompensating for something - their shortcomings, what their parents did/did not do, what they THINK their parents did/did not do.........the list is endless. Honestly, you have too much time on your hands. They seek to blame plastic, batteries, who knows what is next. Stop. Just stop.

Your child came out the way they came out. There is nothing more or less to it. Plastic or batteries or whatever are not going to make a single difference. Educate yourself. Stop making an ass out of yourself.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Just because you expose your child to a plastic or battery-operated toy doesn't mean he's going to lose all sense of imagination. He will play with that toy however he chooses, guided by his imagination and possibly not in the way the manufacturers intended the toy to be played. Think about some of the coolest toys you had growing up... weren't many of them plastic? Who loved the Easy Bake Oven or Barbie Fashion Plates?

I always HATED barbies, never had the EBO. I loved playing outside, in the snow, in the mud, swimming... At home I shared one basket of toys with my younger brother and we did just fine. My parents could not afford much, we were close in age so it worked out pretty well. I don't think children need all this crap at all.

[Anonymous]

Dad here. I don't care about the health issues (never occurred to me), I just would rather a real little child (say, under 3.5) play with things that don't beep and light and make noises. I prefer the physical interaction with blocks and sand, etc. There will be plenty of time for high-tech involvement later. Plus its noisy and expensive.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Is Marion Barry on here? What is with the nonsensical sayings? Those posters sound ridiculous! OP, if you have no problem with what your child is playing with, don't dream up problems. Some people clearly have too much time on their hands. They sound batsh*t crazy, and that is putting it nicely.

I am almost embarrassed to be part of this generation of mothers. It is crystal clear that they are failing miserably at overcompensating for something - their shortcomings, what their parents did/did not do, what they THINK their parents did/did not do.........the list is endless. Honestly, you have too much time on your hands. They seek to blame plastic, batteries, who knows what is next. Stop. Just stop.

Your child came out the way they came out. There is nothing more or less to it. Plastic or batteries or whatever are not going to make a single difference. Educate yourself. Stop making an ass out of yourself.

Which posters in particular are you referring to? Most of the posters have just stated their (logical) reasoning for not wanting a lot of battery-powered plastic toys. What do they need to educate themselves about?

[Anonymous]

What about musical plastic/battery operated toys? My DS (19 mo) loves music and we can't have the stereo going through the whole house all day and I can only sing so much. In addition to agreeing that all you anti-this and anti-that folks have too much time on your hands, trying to shield a child from the world he is going to grow up in is only going to frustrate you both.

[Anonymous]

Irrational fears are not logical reasoning.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Irrational fears are not logical reasoning.

Which posters have "irrational fears"? I'm really curious. Is it those who talked about exposure to plastics made in China, or what?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:What about musical plastic/battery operated toys? My DS (19 mo) loves music and we can't have the stereo going through the whole house all day and I can only sing so much. In addition to agreeing that all you anti-this and anti-that folks have too much time on your hands, trying to shield a child from the world he is going to grow up in is only going to frustrate you both.

The battery operated musical toys are among my least favorite. We have a play piano with no batteries -- you push a button and it makes one sound, to get another sound you need to push another button. Friends have a play piano with batteries -- push one button and a whole song plays, with no room for experimentation by the kids. My kids make lots of music themselves -- xylophone, other toy instruments, singing to themselves, and yes I sing to them and we play music (but not all day -- then it just fades into the background).

The battery operated toys that annoy me the most are the ones that make noise after not having been played with for a while. My in-laws have these and it means that my kids who have moved on to doing something else are interrupted by this annoying toy demanding attention.

When choosing a preschool, I looked for one that had few or no battery operated toys because that was important to me. Avoiding plastic is not. When we're at friends' houses, I don't control at all what my kids play with.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:What about musical plastic/battery operated toys? My DS (19 mo) loves music and we can't have the stereo going through the whole house all day and I can only sing so much. In addition to agreeing that all you anti-this and anti-that folks have too much time on your hands, trying to shield a child from the world he is going to grow up in is only going to frustrate you both.

Nobody is shielding their kids of anything. We're just choosing based on our beliefs. Everybody knows that at a certain point they'll grow to make their own choices and we hope they'll make the right ones.

For now, it's our job to choose what we think it's best. If you like battery and flashing lights, good for you. Go ahead with it, but what's the advantage of such toys?

Now, regarding the bolded statement... Do you allow those toys because you're lazy or don't have enough time to research better?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What about musical plastic/battery operated toys? My DS (19 mo) loves music and we can't have the stereo going through the whole house all day and I can only sing so much. In addition to agreeing that all you anti-this and anti-that folks have too much time on your hands, trying to shield a child from the world he is going to grow up in is only going to frustrate you both.

Nobody is shielding their kids of anything. We're just choosing based on our beliefs. Everybody knows that at a certain point they'll grow to make their own choices and we hope they'll make the right ones.

For now, it's our job to choose what we think it's best. If you like battery and flashing lights, good for you. Go ahead with it, but what's the advantage of such toys?

Now, regarding the bolded statement... Do you allow those toys because you're lazy or don't have enough time to research better?

And...there's the bitch remark we've been waiting for. You're anti-everything, so I must be lazy or uneducated about my choices. Oh, my- how couldi have possibly overlooked the harm of a toy that allows my son to push some buttons, have a jazzy tune played for him and sends him dancing around the room?!!?? There is new technology out there- stop trying to pretend like we live in the "simpler times" that you people like to romanticize and try teaching him about what's around instead of just "hoping" he'll make the right decision.

[Anonymous]

to all these anti technology mom's it will be funny when little jummy says fuck off and types on his future ipad.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What about musical plastic/battery operated toys? My DS (19 mo) loves music and we can't have the stereo going through the whole house all day and I can only sing so much. In addition to agreeing that all you anti-this and anti-that folks have too much time on your hands, trying to shield a child from the world he is going to grow up in is only going to frustrate you both.

The battery operated musical toys are among my least favorite. We have a play piano with no batteries -- you push a button and it makes one sound, to get another sound you need to push another button. Friends have a play piano with batteries -- push one button and a whole song plays, with no room for experimentation by the kids. My kids make lots of music themselves -- xylophone, other toy instruments, singing to themselves, and yes I sing to them and we play music (but not all day -- then it just fades into the background).

The battery operated toys that annoy me the most are the ones that make noise after not having been played with for a while. My in-laws have these and it means that my kids who have moved on to doing something else are interrupted by this annoying toy demanding attention.

When choosing a preschool, I looked for one that had few or no battery operated toys because that was important to me. Avoiding plastic is not. When we're at friends' houses, I don't control at all what my kids play with.

LOL probably sent from her IPhone or something. Or did she use the wood block iphone that doesn't have electronics

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What about musical plastic/battery operated toys? My DS (19 mo) loves music and we can't have the stereo going through the whole house all day and I can only sing so much. In addition to agreeing that all you anti-this and anti-that folks have too much time on your hands, trying to shield a child from the world he is going to grow up in is only going to frustrate you both.

Nobody is shielding their kids of anything. We're just choosing based on our beliefs. Everybody knows that at a certain point they'll grow to make their own choices and we hope they'll make the right ones.

For now, it's our job to choose what we think it's best. If you like battery and flashing lights, good for you. Go ahead with it, but what's the advantage of such toys?

Now, regarding the bolded statement... Do you allow those toys because you're lazy or don't have enough time to research better?

And...there's the bitch remark we've been waiting for. You're anti-everything, so I must be lazy or uneducated about my choices. Oh, my- how couldi have possibly overlooked the harm of a toy that allows my son to push some buttons, have a jazzy tune played for him and sends him dancing around the room?!!?? There is new technology out there- stop trying to pretend like we live in the "simpler times" that you people like to romanticize and try teaching him about what's around instead of just "hoping" he'll make the right decision.

If moms with lots of time make healthier choices, I just draw a logical discussion... the moms opting for not selecting very well are those who either don't have time or are lazy. It's just your own words. No need to get defensive. Aren't you comfortable with your choices?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What about musical plastic/battery operated toys? My DS (19 mo) loves music and we can't have the stereo going through the whole house all day and I can only sing so much. In addition to agreeing that all you anti-this and anti-that folks have too much time on your hands, trying to shield a child from the world he is going to grow up in is only going to frustrate you both.

The battery operated musical toys are among my least favorite. We have a play piano with no batteries -- you push a button and it makes one sound, to get another sound you need to push another button. Friends have a play piano with batteries -- push one button and a whole song plays, with no room for experimentation by the kids. My kids make lots of music themselves -- xylophone, other toy instruments, singing to themselves, and yes I sing to them and we play music (but not all day -- then it just fades into the background).

The battery operated toys that annoy me the most are the ones that make noise after not having been played with for a while. My in-laws have these and it means that my kids who have moved on to doing something else are interrupted by this annoying toy demanding attention.

When choosing a preschool, I looked for one that had few or no battery operated toys because that was important to me. Avoiding plastic is not. When we're at friends' houses, I don't control at all what my kids play with.

LOL probably sent from her IPhone or something. Or did she use the wood block iphone that doesn't have electronics

Your tech gadget kinda numbed your brain, right? Who said our children will never be exposed to technology? We said a lot of times that those exposures are welcome whenever we think it's age appropriate.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What about musical plastic/battery operated toys? My DS (19 mo) loves music and we can't have the stereo going through the whole house all day and I can only sing so much. In addition to agreeing that all you anti-this and anti-that folks have too much time on your hands, trying to shield a child from the world he is going to grow up in is only going to frustrate you both.

Nobody is shielding their kids of anything. We're just choosing based on our beliefs. Everybody knows that at a certain point they'll grow to make their own choices and we hope they'll make the right ones.

For now, it's our job to choose what we think it's best. If you like battery and flashing lights, good for you. Go ahead with it, but what's the advantage of such toys?

Now, regarding the bolded statement... Do you allow those toys because you're lazy or don't have enough time to research better?

And...there's the bitch remark we've been waiting for. You're anti-everything, so I must be lazy or uneducated about my choices. Oh, my- how couldi have possibly overlooked the harm of a toy that allows my son to push some buttons, have a jazzy tune played for him and sends him dancing around the room?!!?? There is new technology out there- stop trying to pretend like we live in the "simpler times" that you people like to romanticize and try teaching him about what's around instead of just "hoping" he'll make the right decision.

If moms with lots of time make healthier choices, I just draw a logical discussion... the moms opting for not selecting very well are those who either don't have time or are lazy. It's just your own words. No need to get defensive. Aren't you comfortable with your choices?

Not healthier choices. More paranoid, controlling and irrational choices. Too busy with your self-righteousness, you have yet to provide a response as to why a musical toy that makes him happy and leads to dancing is detrimental.