Good college for 3.2 student from Langley High

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Anonymous wrote:What about Tulane? Or College of Charleston?

anything you can do to boost the SATs? How were AP scores?

My guess based on last year's class is that Tulane and CoC are out of reach for 3.2/1100 stats.

1100 wouldn't have been good enought for Tulane and CoC when the scale was 1600. Now that the scale is 2400? Forget it.

True that 1100 probably does not get you into these schools. But point of clarification: the 1100 is the old 1100. Most people refer to the 2 sections (out of 1200) just like when we took them. The added section is writing (the 3rd 600 point section) except that we didn't find a single college interested in the writing score.

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But point of clarification: the 1100 is the old 1100. Most people refer to the 2 sections (out of 1200) just like when we took them. The added section is writing (the 3rd 600 point section) except that we didn't find a single college interested in the writing score.

This is not true. Admissions committees look at SAT scores based on the present 2400 point measure.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What about Tulane? Or College of Charleston?

anything you can do to boost the SATs? How were AP scores?

My guess based on last year's class is that Tulane and CoC are out of reach for 3.2/1100 stats.

1100 wouldn't have been good enought for Tulane and CoC when the scale was 1600. Now that the scale is 2400? Forget it.

True that 1100 probably does not get you into these schools. But point of clarification: the 1100 is the old 1100. Most people refer to the 2 sections (out of 1200) just like when we took them. The added section is writing (the 3rd 600 point section) except that we didn't find a single college interested in the writing score.

It was never 1200 - it was 1600. Two 800 point sections. They added another 800 point section.

1100 out of 1600 isn't getting you into Tulane unless you are the Chancellor's son. And even then, it'll be tough.

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Tulane: http://www.localcollegeexplorer.com/Tulane_University.htm

Looks like 1200 and 3.5 GPA would be about average. Not sure why this Tulane guy keeps posting so frequently about how hard it is to get into Tulane-- great-- who cares. I checked it out on the site above because I thought I might not realize how competitive of a school it has become. It's a fine school but honestly it could be a stretch school for this kid and a real possibility if he brought up his SATs to 1250-- which the a prep class should be possible.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What about Tulane? Or College of Charleston?

anything you can do to boost the SATs? How were AP scores?

My guess based on last year's class is that Tulane and CoC are out of reach for 3.2/1100 stats.

1100 wouldn't have been good enought for Tulane and CoC when the scale was 1600. Now that the scale is 2400? Forget it.

True that 1100 probably does not get you into these schools. But point of clarification: the 1100 is the old 1100. Most people refer to the 2 sections (out of 1200) just like when we took them. The added section is writing (the 3rd 600 point section) except that we didn't find a single college interested in the writing score.

It was never 1200 - it was 1600. Two 800 point sections. They added another 800 point section.

1100 out of 1600 isn't getting you into Tulane unless you are the Chancellor's son. And even then, it'll be tough.

That's me -- I mistakenly typed 1200 -- true, old scale is 2 sections of 800 points, new scale adds a writing section of 800 points. I do disagree with those who said colleges are looking at the writing portion. We did not find that to be the case during DCs search last year. But others' experiences must be different.

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Just went through the process with two kids who had similar stats (but higher SATs) and attended a well regarded Catholic HS in Northern VA. Suggest getting a private SAT tutor. With a higher score, you'll likely have luck with ODU, Longwood, Radford, ECU, Highpoint, and Ferrum to name a few. Use the College Board site to get a better idea of what schools will admit with those stats. Pretty sure there are stats that show those that start at community college are much less likely to graduate. There are plenty of great schools out there that will admit with those stats.

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Anonymous wrote:Hey OP: Here is the way to go.

Send your child to one of the larger SEC/ACC/Big 10 schools i.e. Florida, UGA, Bama, FSU or NCState. During those years hopefully they mature enough to understand the value of education and with a high GPA from there they can go on to any grad school they want. If not they'll have a large alumni network that comes in handy in the job seeking process.

Agreed. I would look at Big 10 schools that don't typically bring in a lot of out of state kids (Ohio State, Purdue, Michigan State, Minnesota). Stay away from Northwestern, UofM, Indiana and Wisconsin.

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Washington & Jefferson College in SW PA. Excellent liberal arts curriculum and SATs are optional.

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Anonymous wrote:Would be nice to be able to narrow it down a bit at least by size of school or geography, but here are some suggestions based on recent experience with a DS with slighter stronger stats:

Likely yes:
VCU
Longwood
Radford
Mary Washington
U Colorado Boulder
Clemson
Auburn
Miami of Ohio
Drexel

Possibly:
GMU
U Delaware
U Pittsburgh
Purdue


Not likely:
PSU
UMd
JMU
VT
Syracuse

I found the scattergram on the guidance website to be rather useful in gathering datapoints. The hard realization is that with a 3.2 and 1100, the student is in the bottom half of the graduating class. As a result, DC can get accepted to a stronger OOS school that instate. But don't be overly concerned -- these kids are well prepared for college (even if they don't get accepted to your first choice college).

I'd be interested in hear other recommendations.

Miami of Ohio and Auburn are far more selective than this.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Would be nice to be able to narrow it down a bit at least by size of school or geography, but here are some suggestions based on recent experience with a DS with slighter stronger stats:

Likely yes:
VCU
Longwood
Radford
Mary Washington
U Colorado Boulder
Clemson
Auburn
Miami of Ohio
Drexel

Possibly:
GMU
U Delaware
U Pittsburgh
Purdue


Not likely:
PSU
UMd
JMU
VT
Syracuse

I found the scattergram on the guidance website to be rather useful in gathering datapoints. The hard realization is that with a 3.2 and 1100, the student is in the bottom half of the graduating class. As a result, DC can get accepted to a stronger OOS school that instate. But don't be overly concerned -- these kids are well prepared for college (even if they don't get accepted to your first choice college).

I'd be interested in hear other recommendations.

Miami of Ohio and Auburn are far more selective than this.

Yeah, maybe Miami of Ohio and Auburn should be with the "possibly yes." College board indicates that 1100 SAT score is on the low end of "middle 50%" of the freshman class.

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I respectfully disagree with the PP who suggested certain Big 10 schools as a possibility. This may have been the case with undergrad lib arts programs at U of Illinois or Purdue (renowned for their engineering programs) 15-20 years ago but that is not the case now. Some students used to apply to College of Agriculture programs then transfer later to Lib Arts or Business programs after establishing good GPAs-- I'm not sure if that is even an option now.

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Anonymous wrote:I respectfully disagree with the PP who suggested certain Big 10 schools as a possibility. This may have been the case with undergrad lib arts programs at U of Illinois or Purdue (renowned for their engineering programs) 15-20 years ago but that is not the case now. Some students used to apply to College of Agriculture programs then transfer later to Lib Arts or Business programs after establishing good GPAs-- I'm not sure if that is even an option now.

It's funny that you mentioned UofI and their Agriculture school... I actually applied and was accepted (out of state) because it was the only major in which I qualified. I recall there being a formula that took into account your GPA, class rank and SAT scores and if you met the requirement you were basically admitted.

I still stand by my recommendation to apply to schools like Minn, MSU, Iowa and Ohio State.

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Anonymous wrote:The disheartening thing about this is that in hundreds of high schools across the country, this kid would likely be top 10% of his class.

--Langley parent, and graduate of one of "those" high schools.

With an 1100 SAT?!?

Absolutely would have been top 10% in my smaller-town Midwestern high school.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The disheartening thing about this is that in hundreds of high schools across the country, this kid would likely be top 10% of his class.

--Langley parent, and graduate of one of "those" high schools.

With an 1100 SAT?!?

Absolutely would have been top 10% in my smaller-town Midwestern high school.

Not today. Everyone, everywhere needs to be an A student. I remember when I was in high school a long time ago, being a solid B student was something to be proud of. The kids today have so much pressure.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The disheartening thing about this is that in hundreds of high schools across the country, this kid would likely be top 10% of his class.

--Langley parent, and graduate of one of "those" high schools.

With an 1100 SAT?!?

Absolutely would have been top 10% in my smaller-town Midwestern high school.

Not today. Everyone, everywhere needs to be an A student. I remember when I was in high school a long time ago, being a solid B student was something to be proud of. The kids today have so much pressure.

I absolutely believe that to be true here and in other upper-middle class areas but in smaller, working class towns? Not so sure.