DC's teacher says axing...

Anonymous
^^Standard.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:^^Standard.


You'll need to preface "American English" with a region. Thank you.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Well who really cares about what happens at Sidwell. I am AA and agree with most posters that in schools all teachers should speak standard English. This isn't a problem I have personally encountered at school but have certainly heard the pronounciation used here in DC and other parts of the south (disagree with the poster who said that it is a rare pronounciation among white southerners). OP - I would talk to the principal about this at the same time just because she mispronounces this word doesn't mean she is uneducated or a poor teacher.

Some of us highly educated AAs lead double lives when it comes to standard English and AAVE - slipping into weird pronounciations like "li-burry" (DC dialect) and slang when at home or at ease with friends and family. As a rule, I never talk like that in front of ANY white people - not even close friends - because I don't want to be tagged as being uneducated and uncouth.


I agree - speak with the principal.

I have a regional dialect that has some weird words, pronunciations and sentence structures that I worked to change when I left home and that I fall back into very easily during visits - and switch from when I'm anywhere else.

Notice I didn't say "accent." I have tried to drop that, but it's not unusual for people from that area to place me, despite the fact that the weird/incorrect words are not being used. I can do the same.

You can be regional and not be wrong. Axe is wrong and can easily be fixed.

Same goes for library employees without college degrees in library science. If you work at a library, you should be taught pronounce it properly. It's not that hard.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:We know a DC librarian who says "li-berry"! I kid you not.

Anonymous wrote:Almost as bad as our lOcal DC librarian calling "Anansi" the spider "A Nazi" the spider. It's awful. I'd talk to the principal gently.


Keep in mind that these people might not actually be librarians(with a masters degree), but library clerks. There are far more clerks than librarians in public libraries.


I certainly hope the clerks aren't leading children's story hour every week like this one was!
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:My professor (with a phd) who teaches me how to be a teacher says ax instead of ask.

You disgust me.


This horrifies me.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:My son has a polish homeroom teacher with a heavy accent who mispronounces several words too. Schools should get rid of all teachers who do not speak with pure American accents and proper pronunciation. Frankly, I'm sick of cringing as I listen to him speak. Jars on my last nerve!! That "axing" nonsense would irritate me too. Could you ask the school to give her elocution lessons, and if that doesn't work, just get rid of her as a teacher. I'm sure if you get enough other parents behind you they'll listen. I'm thinking of doing that with said polish teacher!!


Yes. I took college courses from foreigners that I could not understand. It was awful.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:We know a DC librarian who says "li-berry"! I kid you not.

Anonymous wrote:Almost as bad as our lOcal DC librarian calling "Anansi" the spider "A Nazi" the spider. It's awful. I'd talk to the principal gently.


As a librarian this is making me cringe!
Anonymous
She a children's librarian who runs storytime. I don't know why someone hasn't said something to her. It's a shame.

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:We know a DC librarian who says "li-berry"! I kid you not.

Anonymous wrote:Almost as bad as our lOcal DC librarian calling "Anansi" the spider "A Nazi" the spider. It's awful. I'd talk to the principal gently.


As a librarian this is making me cringe!
Anonymous
I ain't about to be cringin' at no liberians or Nazi spiders!
Anonymous
PP, it is so impressive to hear you make fun of the way other people (who probably have had fewer opportunities than you have) speak. Great role model for your kids.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:PP, it is so impressive to hear you make fun of the way other people (who probably have had fewer opportunities than you have) speak. Great role model for your kids.


If these people with fewer opportunities went on to get college degrees and professional jobs, then they should have learned to speak like college graduates and professionals.

Now if they didn't summer in provence, we can't expect them to speak French and be conversant in fine wines and gourmet cooking as adults, but we can still expect someone who qualified for a professional position to talk like a professional - that means no ain't and no axe and no he don't got none.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:My son has a polish homeroom teacher with a heavy accent who mispronounces several words too. Schools should get rid of all teachers who do not speak with pure American accents and proper pronunciation. Frankly, I'm sick of cringing as I listen to him speak. Jars on my last nerve!! That "axing" nonsense would irritate me too. Could you ask the school to give her elocution lessons, and if that doesn't work, just get rid of her as a teacher. I'm sure if you get enough other parents behind you they'll listen. I'm thinking of doing that with said polish teacher!!


Yes. I took college courses from foreigners that I could not understand. It was awful.


I don't care about a pure american accent - whatever that is, but people need to be understandable when working with kids and if there are words they can't pronounce properly, they need to be be aware of what they are and make a point to try to be understood.
Anonymous
OP here. I am genuinely asking for tips on how to address this, because I am going to address this. I think it's unacceptable that a teacher would not speak grammaticaly correct English. We may expect nothing less from a qualified teacher, private school or public school. She is a teacher for children at a young age, who are learning to spell, the alphabet, phonetics etc. At least a quarter of the children in the class has English as a second language; they do not have an English-speaking environment at home and to them this teacher is one of the main people who teaches them consistently English.
"Axing" is simply incorrect, it's not an accent, it's a different word / verb: [dictionary]: to chop or trim wood with a sharp tool.
"Asking" is used every 5 minutes in a classroom setting, this is not an exotic word like "Tyrannosaurus".
I used to have a big, fat accent myself, and I am grateful to the elementary school teachers who corrected me (which I remember vividly), because I had no idea. In the situation described, it would be the other way around; unacceptable...
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:PP, it is so impressive to hear you make fun of the way other people (who probably have had fewer opportunities than you have) speak. Great role model for your kids.[/quote



I agree with you. The PP wasn't funny at all, and it saddens me that all children don't have the same advantages. I'm one of the educators who said every child deserves the best education possible. It does amaze me, however, that quite a few posters on this forum are indicating that parents should try to overlook certain African American dialectical speech patterns that have been overheard in a classroom. I'm wondering if they would have the same tolerance for a white teacher who says, "That student's got the head lice, and her brothers done got caught laying out of school." As well-intentioned as these teachers may be, they shouldn't be teaching if they can't recognize and use standard English.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:^^Standard.


You'll need to preface "American English" with a region. Thank you.


Not really. There's Standard English, and then there are regional dialects. They're not equally valid in every situation.
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