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cracks me up that people actually use "liberal" as a compliment. |
World English Dictionary liberal (?l?b?r?l, ?l?br?l) — adj 1. relating to or having social and political views that favour progress and reform 2. relating to or having policies or views advocating individual freedom 3. giving and generous in temperament or behaviour 4. tolerant of other people 5. abundant; lavish: a liberal helping of cream 6. not strict; free: a liberal translation 7. of or relating to an education that aims to develop general cultural interests and intellectual ability — n 8. a person who has liberal ideas or opinions Yeah, sounds AWFUL
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Yeah but there's fewer jobs there. So go figure. Some areas are ok if you can move every 5-10 years (e.g. IT), or you can find a small town that fits your needs (e.g. nursing/teaching). |
| at this point, there aren't enough jobs in decent sized cities. There is a reason we're still in the DC area and not living in a lower COL city. |
| OP, I did not need some study to tell me that it is stressful in the city. I am perfectly happy in the suburbs and have no plans to leave. |
| Also, I am not sure that my sister living in town gets to ANY "shows"! It is one big exaggeration that they get to these things. I can drive to the museums in less time and cheaper that she can get there by metro. |
Again, suburbs are not rural, unless it's a suburb of Bismark, ND and the like. |
I know! It must seem pretty weird to you. I'm guessing you're the type who expends tremendous psychic energy avoiding exposure to any worldview not properly vetted for far-right political correctness. You can have epistemic closure. For my part, I prefer living in a liberal society, with likewise open-minded folks. |
Hah! You'll note the title isn't "Living in a congested, sprawl-farm is Better than the Concrete Jungle". I can't even imagine living out in the DC suburbs. Worst traffic in the country, and you can't take a poop without getting into your car and driving 45 minutes. Not stressful at all, that.
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| Well, I grew up in "rural living" and MUCH prefer the "concrete jungle" of DC. Its not more stressful here, its less! Would never go back to rural living unless I had a fabulous salary and lived within a decent distance to a major airport. |
I don't know what suburb you are referring to, but I live in one where I can easily walk to 3 grocery stores, several restaurants, etc. I don't have to get in my car many days. Getting to downtown DC is a hassle on a weekday, but I rarely need to go there when all the creature comforts I need are within a 5 mile radius. |
| Now that I live closer in (Old Town), whenever I go to places like Fair Lakes or Potomac Mills, I ask myself how I ever dealt with all of the intersections where each light revolution takes minutes. And you hit half a dozen of them on any trip you take. It drives me insane. |
I seem to remember some crazy traffic in old town when I was living not too far away. It took me an hour to go a couple miles when I picked my cat up from the vet one afternoon. If you are walking, it obviously doesn't affect you. |
That's great! Of course, your personal situation is unlike that of 99% of suburban dwellers. (And, no Old Town Alexandria, Bethesda, and the like aren't "the suburbs" in the urban/suburban sense, at least no more than Capitol Hill is. They're just not within the political boundaries of the District). If you can easily walk to 3 grocery stores and several restaurants, then you either live next door to a strip-mall, or you don't live in "the suburbs" in any meaningful sense. You live in an urban area. Whether that urban area is in Clarendon, Old Town, Silver Spring, or Bethesda is irrelevant |