Do Boy Scouts and Liberals Mix?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I'm not sure where I fall on the political spectrum anymore; but my kids do participate in boy scouting. I have to say I have not observed or heard anyone express bias against anything. Seriously, the activities are more about community, having fun, showing respect for yourself and others, taking care of the environment, personal safety, etc. There is an emphasis on patriotism. Even the sections of their books dealing with religion has information about many different religious traditions. I don't think it would make any difference to most of the families that participate where everyone else comes from religiously, politically, ethnically, or in terms of sexual orientation. The national organization does not seem to have a whole lot to do with the local troop.

Well duh! Of course liberals are not going to support the scouts, these are NOT liberal values. Liberal values come from a place of hate, judgment, and hypocrisy.

[Anonymous]

I had real struggles with this. But my son really wanted to do it, and at six, I didn't feel he had to carry the weight of the world's issues on his shoulders. He doing Cub Scouts, but I think we will address this again when its time for Boy Scouts. I will let him know of our concerns, and I hope as an older child he will be OK with that.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:exactly, the Boy Scouts are a complete melting pot. And I know a few of the boy scouts in my troop growing up turned out gay, and nobody made fun of them and it was never an issue. In fact, you never even hear the word "gay" or any gay issues at Boy Scouts. They just don't want gay scoutmasters, and I can't blame them. Too much risk of abuse.

I'd love to get my sons involved into scouting. It is a complete apolitical organization. Those who think otherwise need to go to a few meetings and see for themselves.

Did you say that to start a flame war or because you believe it? If it's because you believe it, I'd like to thank you for reminding me about the kind of beliefs that pervade this type of organization. I'll happily stay far, far away.

buh-buy, go have a bunch a gay guys take your kids camping. I'm sure you will have pleanty of volunteers to lead that party in the woods.

[Anonymous]

Yes. I support gay rights, but am a practicing Christian.

[Anonymous]

12:57, are you the same no-caps poster that always starting shit? Could you grow up a little?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Yes. I support gay rights, but am a practicing Christian.

See, "rights" are not the same as "privileges other people can decide to withhold," which I think is what you support in re: Boy Scouts and gays.

[Anonymous]

What I find ironic about the whole thing is that boy scouts is about the gayest thing grown men regularly do without open ridicule. I mean seriously, the shorts? The patches? The hats for crissakes? I saw more gayness during last year's "Jamboree" than I did during the gay pride parade.

Boy Scouts as an organization doth protest to much methinks.

[Anonymous]

Omg, ha!, PP.

[Anonymous]

Question: If a homosexual couple wanted their child to participate, could they? What would be the restrictions on that family? Is it only that (openly) gay people can't be scoutmasters? Or are openly gay couples raising children not allowed to sign up their kids? And is the agnostic and atheist thing for the kids? Or the parents? I mean if a six year old wants to join and a parent is an atheist the boy scouts could say no?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:What I find ironic about the whole thing is that boy scouts is about the gayest thing grown men regularly do without open ridicule. I mean seriously, the shorts? The patches? The hats for crissakes? I saw more gayness during last year's "Jamboree" than I did during the gay pride parade.

Boy Scouts as an organization doth protest to much methinks.

I was always so embarrassed about being outed as a boy scout, but looking back it was so much fun. I learned more about porn and beer in the boy scouts than anywhere else!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Question: If a homosexual couple wanted their child to participate, could they? What would be the restrictions on that family? Is it only that (openly) gay people can't be scoutmasters? Or are openly gay couples raising children not allowed to sign up their kids? And is the agnostic and atheist thing for the kids? Or the parents? I mean if a six year old wants to join and a parent is an atheist the boy scouts could say no?

boy scouts don't care about the religion or sexual orientation of the family. this "discrimination" is much ado about nothing.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:What I find ironic about the whole thing is that boy scouts is about the gayest thing grown men regularly do without open ridicule. I mean seriously, the shorts? The patches? The hats for crissakes? I saw more gayness during last year's "Jamboree" than I did during the gay pride parade.

Boy Scouts as an organization doth protest to much methinks.

You mean as in the priests and gowns, dresses, lace?

I posted links earlier. Go to page 67. Not all gay men are peds and this particular group didn't stop them. But another might have :
http://www.youthtoday.org/doc/Scout%27s%20Honor.pdf

read about the testimony of Harry Connick, Sr [DA new orleans]:
http://www.archive.org/details/protectionofchil00unit

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Question: If a homosexual couple wanted their child to participate, could they? What would be the restrictions on that family? Is it only that (openly) gay people can't be scoutmasters? Or are openly gay couples raising children not allowed to sign up their kids? And is the agnostic and atheist thing for the kids? Or the parents? I mean if a six year old wants to join and a parent is an atheist the boy scouts could say no?

I think openly gay people aren't allowed to serve in leadership positions in the pack or troop. A Leadership position in Cub Scouts could be being den leader or assistant den leader, or being on the pack committee (Treasurer, Box Car Derby organizer, Pack Leader, etc). For kids in grades 1 through 3, a parent is supposed to come to each den meeting with their Cub Scout, and I have read that some people have been told that coming as the Adult partner of a Cub also counts as being in a Leadership Position, so openly gay parents are not welcome to come for this either -- meaning they need to send their Cub Scout with another, heterosexual adult (or at least a closeted gay adult.)

Plenty of dens and packs simply ignore this regulation or don't know about it.

[Anonymous]

Openly gay dad in Texas asked to step down as Popcorn Fundraiser Organizer:

http://articles.cnn.com/2010-10-19/us/texas.scouts.gay.dad_1_boy-scouts-gay-leader-scout-executive?_s=PM:US

"We do have a policy that avowed gays and atheists are not allowed to be a registered leader or member of Boy Scouts of America," said Pat Currie, Scout executive with the Circle Ten Council. "It's a longstanding policy."

In a telephone interview, Boy Scouts of America director of public relations Deron Smith told CNN that the discussion has no place in Scouting.

"We focus on our mission, and our mission is to take young people and prepare them for an exceptional adulthood," he said. "That's it. That's why our policy is the way it is. Our volunteer leadership has elected to keep that policy in place."

Smith said Langbert is welcome to continue volunteering his time, though not as a leader. "The policy, as it is written, is that the Boy Scouts does not accept for membership avowed homosexuals," he said, adding that the issue would not have arisen had Langbert kept his sexual orientation private, since prospective leaders are not asked whether they are gay.

[Anonymous]

http://www.progressinaction.com/house-of-representatives/congress-tells-boy-scouts-of-america-to-stop-discrimination/