What school pyramid?

[Anonymous]

We are happy in the Lake Braddock pyramid. I'd try to live in Lake Braddock neighborhood if possible to walk to the middle/high school. That's my biggest regret of our little neighborhood.

It's a great community of middle class government workers, military, teachers, etc. Downside is the school is so big making teams can be challenging. Upside is there are so many kids there are peer groups for everything.

Multiple train stations that go to Crystal City, L'Enfant, or Union Station if you work regular/predictable hours. Otherwise DH's commute downtown is 45-60 minutes driving depending when he leaves.

[Anonymous]

IB sucks and is placed at lower performing schools to try to draw in kids to raise the overall feel and tests scores of that school. Stay away from IB schools.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:IB sucks and is placed at lower performing schools to try to draw in kids to raise the overall feel and tests scores of that school. Stay away from IB schools.

It is placed at lower performing schools because, in theory, IB is a draw. There are many people and colleges that value the IB program.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:IB sucks and is placed at lower performing schools to try to draw in kids to raise the overall feel and tests scores of that school. Stay away from IB schools.

It is placed at lower performing schools because, in theory, IB is a draw. There are many people and colleges that value the IB program.

IB programs have been at eight high schools in FCPS for 20-25 years, which is more than enough time for FCPS to have learned that its approach to IB is a failure. Parents are more interested in strong schools than “schools within a school” and the percentage of IB diploma recipients ranges from 2% to 20% of the seniors at the IB schools. In general, IB is more of an albatross in FCPS than a draw.

[Anonymous]

OP here: I’m honestly surprised looking at some of the great schools scores (which I know you have to take with a grain of salt) that so many of these school pyramids seemed to be ranked low, like the ones you mention — Edison, West Potomac, Hayfield, etc. I had heard that Fairfax was such a strong system but it seems like there are a lot of variables. Our budget is up to 1.1 million but from what I see in Arlington that won’t even buy you a tiny house. We are more city people usually so wanted to be closer in to Alexandria or Arlington to be near DC, but it’s sounding like some of the further out neighborhoods make the most sense. I’ll look at some of the other neighborhoods mentioned here and I didn’t consider future redistricting. We have a rising middle schooler and elementary kid so that’s important.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:OP here: I’m honestly surprised looking at some of the great schools scores (which I know you have to take with a grain of salt) that so many of these school pyramids seemed to be ranked low, like the ones you mention — Edison, West Potomac, Hayfield, etc. I had heard that Fairfax was such a strong system but it seems like there are a lot of variables. Our budget is up to 1.1 million but from what I see in Arlington that won’t even buy you a tiny house. We are more city people usually so wanted to be closer in to Alexandria or Arlington to be near DC, but it’s sounding like some of the further out neighborhoods make the most sense. I’ll look at some of the other neighborhoods mentioned here and I didn’t consider future redistricting. We have a rising middle schooler and elementary kid so that’s important.

With all due respect, someone who truly has progressive values does not get hung up on Great Schools scores.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote: What’s the best school pyramid that has great academics and community but isn’t too much of a competitive and overly wealth-obsessed area.

https://www.usnews.com/education/best-high-schools/virginia/districts/fairfax-county-public-schools-109481

From top schools, those fit your requirements are Woodson, Chantilly, West Springfield, Lake Braddock, Robinson. Other top schools may be too competitive and wealth obsessed.

Maybe West Springfield and Woodson is kind of close to DC, but not as close as those like McLean and Vienna. areas inside the beltway tends to contain large portion of lower income population therefore the school performance are worse, but there is nothing wrong with sending kids there.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP here: I’m honestly surprised looking at some of the great schools scores (which I know you have to take with a grain of salt) that so many of these school pyramids seemed to be ranked low, like the ones you mention — Edison, West Potomac, Hayfield, etc. I had heard that Fairfax was such a strong system but it seems like there are a lot of variables. Our budget is up to 1.1 million but from what I see in Arlington that won’t even buy you a tiny house. We are more city people usually so wanted to be closer in to Alexandria or Arlington to be near DC, but it’s sounding like some of the further out neighborhoods make the most sense. I’ll look at some of the other neighborhoods mentioned here and I didn’t consider future redistricting. We have a rising middle schooler and elementary kid so that’s important.

With all due respect, someone who truly has progressive values does not get hung up on Great Schools scores.

Fair point — that’s why I said I take it with a grain of salt. With no other context or knowledge of the schools, unfortunately it’s one of the few ways that you can do “research” about different schools. I’m not putting down the schools, I’m just surprised that some of these high priced areas, nationally speaking, have schools that are so seemingly challenged.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote: What’s the best school pyramid that has great academics and community but isn’t too much of a competitive and overly wealth-obsessed area.

https://www.usnews.com/education/best-high-schools/virginia/districts/fairfax-county-public-schools-109481

From top schools, those fit your requirements are Woodson, Chantilly, West Springfield, Lake Braddock, Robinson. Other top schools may be too competitive and wealth obsessed.

Maybe West Springfield and Woodson is kind of close to DC, but not as close as those like McLean and Vienna. areas inside the beltway tends to contain large portion of lower income population therefore the school performance are worse, but there is nothing wrong with sending kids there.

Just because other areas are wealthier doesn’t mean they are more competitive or wealth-obsessed. If anything, families in those areas may not have to worry as much about where their kids will land.

Of course, if OP has a $1.1 million budget, that point may be moot, but it’s telling how frequently some people claim their schools are some sweet spot of normalcy when they are just more affordable.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP here: I’m honestly surprised looking at some of the great schools scores (which I know you have to take with a grain of salt) that so many of these school pyramids seemed to be ranked low, like the ones you mention — Edison, West Potomac, Hayfield, etc. I had heard that Fairfax was such a strong system but it seems like there are a lot of variables. Our budget is up to 1.1 million but from what I see in Arlington that won’t even buy you a tiny house. We are more city people usually so wanted to be closer in to Alexandria or Arlington to be near DC, but it’s sounding like some of the further out neighborhoods make the most sense. I’ll look at some of the other neighborhoods mentioned here and I didn’t consider future redistricting. We have a rising middle schooler and elementary kid so that’s important.

With all due respect, someone who truly has progressive values does not get hung up on Great Schools scores.

Fair point — that’s why I said I take it with a grain of salt. With no other context or knowledge of the schools, unfortunately it’s one of the few ways that you can do “research” about different schools. I’m not putting down the schools, I’m just surprised that some of these high priced areas, nationally speaking, have schools that are so seemingly challenged.

The problem is that Fairfax is a wonderful place with people coming here from around the world for various reasons. One of those reasons is to leave a country where they had no opportunity or education. They do not speak English, and their children are learning English, the culture, and academics at the same time.

If you want to see how your child would do, you need to break down the demographics. Don't include the English learners, for instance. The scores often change drastically when you look at the families that would be on DCUM and posting here. Mix that with exposure to different people and different cultures and I think going to public school in Fairfax County is a wonderful opportunity for our children.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:OP here: I’m honestly surprised looking at some of the great schools scores (which I know you have to take with a grain of salt) that so many of these school pyramids seemed to be ranked low, like the ones you mention — Edison, West Potomac, Hayfield, etc. I had heard that Fairfax was such a strong system but it seems like there are a lot of variables. Our budget is up to 1.1 million but from what I see in Arlington that won’t even buy you a tiny house. We are more city people usually so wanted to be closer in to Alexandria or Arlington to be near DC, but it’s sounding like some of the further out neighborhoods make the most sense. I’ll look at some of the other neighborhoods mentioned here and I didn’t consider future redistricting. We have a rising middle schooler and elementary kid so that’s important.

It seems like you might be getting an education in real time on this thread.

I’ll just reiterate the most important thing to consider- under policy 8130, the school board has now mandated that FCPS do a comprehensive review of school boundaries every five years. The last one started a couple years back and the next will be here before you know it.

The school board will not respect your choice of school pyramid. You should absolutely look elsewhere.

[Anonymous]

If you are a lib falls Church City or Arlington are the places for your

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:We just found out we need to relocate and are looking at Fairfax county. What’s the best school pyramid that has great academics and community but isn’t too much of a competitive and overly wealth-obsessed area. We are moving from a progressive area and have heard that some of the “better” schools in McLean, etc. run probably a little bit more conservative than we’re used to. We would like to be as close to DC as possible as well. Thank you!

McLean is about 60%+ libs

[Anonymous]

Woodson is the answer for you. You can get a house for your budget. There are many neighborhoods with great community spirit. Look at the neighborhoods that feed Wakefield Forest, and Canterbury Woods in particular.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Woodson is the answer for you. You can get a house for your budget. There are many neighborhoods with great community spirit. Look at the neighborhoods that feed Wakefield Forest, and Canterbury Woods in particular.

+1. Besides Woodson, Oakton and Chantilly would be good fits. Make sure to find out about proposed boundary changes that will affect parts of Chantilly and Oakton HS pyramids.