If you could choose any pyramid…

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Anonymous wrote:Waples, Carson, Oakton/TJ. (Currently this is our pyramid. We love it.)

That's not even a real pyramid. Your pyramid is Waples-Franklin-Oakton.

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And I would choose Franklin over Carson any day. I sent kids to both.

Hm. Is it because you're in the minority at Carson?

We are definitely not in the minority at Carson. We were just extremely underwhelmed with the education our kids received there versus the education of our children who attended Franklin. The difference was particularly noticeable with the Spanish, English, Geometry, and social studies teachers and instruction.

Tell me you've never had a child in middle school without telling me you've never had a child in middle school.

I have had five kids go through FCPS middle schools.

Social studies = US History in 7th grade and Civics/Economics in 8th grade. What is it that you find so objectionable about categorizing those curricula as social studies, which is the accurate term?

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Anonymous wrote:Chantilly via any of the ES and Rocky Run

I would not reccomend Chantilly. Rocky is ok.

I am an alum from that pyramid and it’s the only one I know so, I could just stick to it but route my kid through a pyramid elementary school that doesn’t split feed to a different high school.

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Anonymous wrote:Waples, Carson, Oakton/TJ. (Currently this is our pyramid. We love it.)

That's not even a real pyramid. Your pyramid is Waples-Franklin-Oakton.

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And I would choose Franklin over Carson any day. I sent kids to both.

Hm. Is it because you're in the minority at Carson?

We are definitely not in the minority at Carson. We were just extremely underwhelmed with the education our kids received there versus the education of our children who attended Franklin. The difference was particularly noticeable with the Spanish, English, Geometry, and social studies teachers and instruction.

Tell me you've never had a child in middle school without telling me you've never had a child in middle school.

I have had five kids go through FCPS middle schools.

Social studies = US History in 7th grade and Civics/Economics in 8th grade. What is it that you find so objectionable about categorizing those curricula as social studies, which is the accurate term?

https://www.fcps.edu/academics/middle/social-studies

See the above. Middle school SOCIAL STUDIES.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm not seeing any of the college outcomes frankly being that different between the top five schools in FCPS.

What would you consider the top 5? Langley, McLean, Oakton, Woodson, and ?

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Anonymous wrote:Chantilly via any of the ES and Rocky Run

I would not recommend Chantilly. Rocky is ok.

I'm with you. It has good educational outcomes because the parents are so invested in making sure that the mediocre teaching does not impact their kids.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm not seeing any of the college outcomes frankly being that different between the top five schools in FCPS.

What would you consider the top 5? Langley, McLean, Oakton, Woodson, and ?

Historically Madison but add Chantilly to the mix.

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Anonymous wrote:Chantilly via any of the ES and Rocky Run

I would not recommend Chantilly. Rocky is ok.

I'm with you. It has good educational outcomes because the parents are so invested in making sure that the mediocre teaching does not impact their kids.

Are you talking about Chantilly or Rocky Run with mediocre teachers?

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Robinson Secondary.

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Anonymous wrote:Chantilly via any of the ES and Rocky Run

I would not recommend Chantilly. Rocky is ok.

I'm with you. It has good educational outcomes because the parents are so invested in making sure that the mediocre teaching does not impact their kids.

Are you talking about Chantilly or Rocky Run with mediocre teachers?

Chantilly. Rocky has its share of bad teachers but the proportions are reversed. More good than bad.

I have come to understand that the reputation of a school has far more to do with the community that feeds into it than the school itself.

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Anonymous wrote:We would choose one where the HS is NOT high performing (e.g., not Oakton, Langley, Mclean). Our kids will do well in any HS. They likely will be closer to top of the class at a mundane HS (because less competition) and that will help with college admissions.

Most people on DCUM will disagree with this.

this is an interesting point!

We moved from an average FCPS pyramid to a top pyramid. The difference in what teachers and staff expected of students was quickly apparent.

You can bet that other kids at an average or below average school will make your kids look better, or conclude that a strong peer group will better prepare your kids for what comes next.

Talk is cheap on DCUM, but when you look at actual behavior as reflected real estate prices, it's clear people tend to believe the latter.

maybe for gen ed classes, I can tell you that is not the case with IB.

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Anonymous wrote:Meridian

That’s Falls Church City!

Yeah, wrong district and VERY small. With IB instead of AP and they have to travel very far if they play a sport for every game. Hours. No thanks.

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Anonymous wrote:We would choose one where the HS is NOT high performing (e.g., not Oakton, Langley, Mclean). Our kids will do well in any HS. They likely will be closer to top of the class at a mundane HS (because less competition) and that will help with college admissions.

Most people on DCUM will disagree with this.

100% with you here. And that is exactly how it panned out. The group of high performing kids at our low performing HS all got into Stanford, Carnegie-Mellon, Columbia, Duke, Penn, UVA, etc. They had a huge advantage.

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Anonymous wrote:We would choose one where the HS is NOT high performing (e.g., not Oakton, Langley, Mclean). Our kids will do well in any HS. They likely will be closer to top of the class at a mundane HS (because less competition) and that will help with college admissions.

Most people on DCUM will disagree with this.

Eh, I wouldn't put too much weight on your theory. At the end of the day, your kid is still an "FCPS grad" and colleges have plenty of over-acheiving "FCPS grads" to choose from.

Also, I'd take a close look at the courses offered at the lower (mundane) HS verses higher achieving one's. Not sure you can get the same academic vigor .

Generally IB programs are offered and IB diplomas are more difficult to obtain and carry more weight. The high performing kids generally take the IB courses.

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Anonymous wrote:We would choose one where the HS is NOT high performing (e.g., not Oakton, Langley, Mclean). Our kids will do well in any HS. They likely will be closer to top of the class at a mundane HS (because less competition) and that will help with college admissions.

Most people on DCUM will disagree with this.

100% with you here. And that is exactly how it panned out. The group of high performing kids at our low performing HS all got into Stanford, Carnegie-Mellon, Columbia, Duke, Penn, UVA, etc. They had a huge advantage.

LOL. IB programs in FCPS are small, with few kids completing the program and most of those who do ending up at schools like JMU and Mason, not Stanford or Duke.

The main perceived advantage of IB is that it gives families buying zoned for schools like Lewis an option to transfer to a better AP school.