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I don’t think anyone is saying that the traditionally more heralded schools are academically inferior to those that top the WSJ or LinkedIn lists, but it’s hard to argue that employability and workforce placement/participation is not a reasonable criteria to incorporate into a school’s evaluation.
If schools like Babson, genuinely renown for its entrepreneurship-focused education, are turning out grads desirable to employers, it deserves to be in the conversation of top schools if that’s what students and parents are focused on. ROI is certainly a reasonable measurement of any investment, obviously. |
It’s not weird. It just has a different methodology. |
| Yippeee, another (useless) ranking |
| Duke sucks, hope they lose in the first round next week |
Ah yes, another astute analysis of an institution’s caliber |
Especially with how expensive college is getting, ROI is absolutely critical |
The Forbes list is not as different from US News as WSJ. I said above that it doesn't personally reflect my values, but I think it is very helpful to consider schools in a different light. For example, I remember WSJ placed Loyola Maryland in the top 20. The academics aren't as strong there as in what most of think of as a top 20, but they give excellent merit money bringing down the cost for pretty much everyone and have a real focus on preparing students for the professional world. It makes sense that WSJ would rank it much higher than other lists. |
What is the methodology, though? It isn't anywhere close to that in either US News (we are familiar with methodology) or in WSJ (so not ROI) so I wonder what "career outcomes" they are focused on? If it is just that BU produces more professionals who work outside of the US, when we know that BU starts out with an unusually high percentage of international students, then it seems like a misleading stat. A false friend. |
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My kid goes to Pitt so I am neutral about this list. From my perspective, Bentley and Tufts sort of stand out by punching above their weight. Probably due to being in Boston.
Lehigh and Babson have had great outcomes for a long time. So, this isn't a surprise. |
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The only other thing that is interesting is that UVA is the only public school on the list.
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| This is a list of people with linkedin profiles who update their profile with their career progressions. I haven't updated my profile in a while. |
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This list is whacked.
Penn State is on par with Caltech, and higher than UT Austin? C'mon. I mean, my kid is going to Penn State, but I'm under no illusion that Penn State is a T45 school. |
From a NYer. Both Bentley and Babson are well known for business, finance, entrepreneurship, etc. |
UVA not on the list but Vtech is. LOL |
CalTech sends a very high percentage of the class onto PhDs. I don't know how that is reflected in this LinkedIn ranking, other than to assume it is a negative. Curious also how schools that send tons of kids onto Medical careers would show up. It takes a good like 8 years post-undergrad to start your full working life as a doctor. |