They're obsessed and have an inferiority complex. |
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First Balduccis is across the street if you want wine and groceries. Second who cares about retail? Who cares about movie theaters when you can stream anything? It’s not 1985. Times change. Buy it online. We go out for parks, classes, live athletic and music events, farmers markets, etc. not for 1980s style mall trolling. Knock down Montgomery mall for all I care. I can think of a thousand better ways to use the space. Moco does pretty well for these things, but use the whole dmv.
Too many potholes in moco for sure, but your brand new roads will have a bunch in a few years and you’ll have the joy of new taxes and fees in a vain attempt to keep all the new infrastructure from crumbling. |
Tysons sucks, but I think we can all agree Montgomery County's liquor laws are nuts. |
| The traffic on 495 going into and leaving Tyson's is insane. I live in DC and don't leave very often to MD or VA, but when I have to go to VA I have to pack a lunch! |
Tyson is 8 miles and Olney is 11 miles. So no. Also there is HT at the downtown crown, and a gazillion other options. |
Once you cross the bridge it’s a massive construction zone for miles, and been that way for years. |
| That’s nuts. I never go to Virginia besides to the airports |
How do you make it to Tysons corner in 15 min from NWDC when it takes this long or longer to go from Mclean to Tysons? Traffic is terrible most of the day, and traffic on 495 is even worse than on local roads. I call BS. |
| You do you OP, I'd rather starve than go to Tysons |
Exactly, this hwy is always packed. And even large residential roads leading to Tysons are packed for hours each day. To get to Tysons from nearby Vienna and Mclean takes 15 min due to traffic and lights, why people who live there shop in their local strip malls. There is no way that it's this easy to drive to Tysons for funzies or essential errands in 20 min. More like 40 min. Especially if you need to get to the hwy from your residential area to start with. |
It takes 15-20 minutes max to get from River Road and 495 or Old Georgetown and 495 to Tysons on the weekends as long as you leave before 1 or 2 pm. Ditto for Sunday and for weekdays after 7. No one usually leaves their house to go shopping at 5pm or 6pm on the weekdays in the middle of rush hour. It is a PIA to get anywhere around the DMV at that time. And to the poster who said Olney was 11 miles and Tysons was 8 from River Road and 495. It literally takes 10 minutes to get from River and Seven Locks to Tysons right now and 26 to get from the same location to Olney. Yes, it is late at night with no traffic, but it would still be a lot faster after 7 pm on weekdays and on weekends as well. A lot of people don’t realize how close Tysons is to people in W school clusters, especially Churchhill and Whitman. |
The original post was from someone who lives in Bethesda near 495. |
Construction is finished on the hot lanes and I would love for Maryland to construct anything, but apparently we don’t have as much money for public infrastructure as VA or are able to manage to complete anything on time and on budget. |
The HOT lanes are stupid, as Virginians themselves will tell you: https://www.reddit.com/r/nova/comments/1poxs2y/shocking_to_no_one_the_495_express_lanes/ You either need to do these things along the entire beltway, or not do them at all. But having them for a portion of the beltway makes no sense. But I'm sure having even more toll roads in Virginia will make the private corporation who built them a lot of money, just as is the case with all the other roads that Virginia has privatized by adding tolls. |
At least Virginia builds infrastructure. The only two major projects in MoCo in the past 10-20 years are a toll road (200) and a bypass north of Olney on 97 that no one even needed, with money that could have spent a million other places. Besides that, there was the extremely over budget and mismanaged Silver Spring Transit Center that had to be redone because the contractor was using cheap, deficient cement. https://washingtonian.com/2015/09/16/a-timeline-of-failure-for-the-silver-spring-transit-center/ And then there’s the Purple Line, which is $1B over budget and should have been open 3-5 years ago. You go to Virginia and the highways are constantly being upgraded and the Silver Line is up and running, with job centers along the whole line from Falls Church to Ashburn. Meanwhile Maryland has crumbling infrastructure and can’t even manage the few infrastructure projects that they start. And the taxes are more in MD. For what? I’d expect VA level infrastructure, at least, for the taxes I pay. |