Failed terror attack in NYC

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The anti-Muslim haters are just salivating at the chance to trot out their hate on this thread. What these men did was wrong, full stop.
Nevertheless, sit down if you are one of the anti-Muslim haters who will use this to do your hateful fear mongering just like 9/11. There are always threats to our country. We need to be vigilant right now, because our incompetent, war-mongering administration is off bombing the sheet out of people with no real plan again. Idiots bring out other idiots. But to start up this anti-Muslim hate again, F off.

And anyone dismissing the white nationalist threat to this country is either stupid or a white nationalist. They have been a problem for a long time and Trump has emboldened them.

I think you might be missing the point, pp.

Most Americans are neither white nationalists nor Islamic extremists. Would you agree?

We are talking about select subpopulations, not the masses.

In terms of what people fear, optics are everything.

When a scary incident hits national/international news, it fuels concern.

I’m betting that the vast majority of posters aren’t white nationalists and aren’t sympathetic to their cause. They’ve likely never met a white nationalist in real life and they aren’t reading much about them in the national news. Fair?

But we are currently at war with a country ruled by religious extremists with an armed military plus radicalized gangs and sleeper cells in our country AND we are reading about a privileged Afghan-American young man who was raised in an objectively lovely affluent American community whose self-proclaimed allegiance is to death-to-America ISIS.

Surely you can understand why the masses are very worried about such behavior, right?

And it’s not an anti-Muslim fear. It’s an anti-extremist terrorist fear. We are worried about radicalized terrorists.

You just proved the point. The news will focus on this ONE incident to get people all fired up, so that they overestimate this threat.

Exactly, these people clearly majored in drama and skipped statistics altogether. It’s not new, and it’s an infection. lol at all of the morons worked up about voting fraud, willing to disenfranchise millions of voters to solve a nearly nonexistent problem. Fact is, when it does exist it’s almost assuredly not an illegal immigrant.

The fact remains that white supremacy and domestic terror are a much bigger issue in the US.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The anti-Muslim haters are just salivating at the chance to trot out their hate on this thread. What these men did was wrong, full stop.
Nevertheless, sit down if you are one of the anti-Muslim haters who will use this to do your hateful fear mongering just like 9/11. There are always threats to our country. We need to be vigilant right now, because our incompetent, war-mongering administration is off bombing the sheet out of people with no real plan again. Idiots bring out other idiots. But to start up this anti-Muslim hate again, F off.

And anyone dismissing the white nationalist threat to this country is either stupid or a white nationalist. They have been a problem for a long time and Trump has emboldened them.

I think you might be missing the point, pp.

Most Americans are neither white nationalists nor Islamic extremists. Would you agree?

We are talking about select subpopulations, not the masses.

In terms of what people fear, optics are everything.

When a scary incident hits national/international news, it fuels concern.

I’m betting that the vast majority of posters aren’t white nationalists and aren’t sympathetic to their cause. They’ve likely never met a white nationalist in real life and they aren’t reading much about them in the national news. Fair?

But we are currently at war with a country ruled by religious extremists with an armed military plus radicalized gangs and sleeper cells in our country AND we are reading about a privileged Afghan-American young man who was raised in an objectively lovely affluent American community whose self-proclaimed allegiance is to death-to-America ISIS.

Surely you can understand why the masses are very worried about such behavior, right?

And it’s not an anti-Muslim fear. It’s an anti-extremist terrorist fear. We are worried about radicalized terrorists.

You just proved the point. The news will focus on this ONE incident to get people all fired up, so that they overestimate this threat.

Exactly, these people clearly majored in drama and skipped statistics altogether. It’s not new, and it’s an infection. lol at all of the morons worked up about voting fraud, willing to disenfranchise millions of voters to solve a nearly nonexistent problem. Fact is, when it does exist it’s almost assuredly not an illegal immigrant.

The fact remains that white supremacy and domestic terror are a much bigger issue in the US.

Perhaps generally, sure.

But now that we are at war, things have changed. Security threats have obviously shifted.

If you know anyone in law enforcement or the military or in charge of security at government buildings, etc., everything has shifted.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The anti-Muslim haters are just salivating at the chance to trot out their hate on this thread. What these men did was wrong, full stop.
Nevertheless, sit down if you are one of the anti-Muslim haters who will use this to do your hateful fear mongering just like 9/11. There are always threats to our country. We need to be vigilant right now, because our incompetent, war-mongering administration is off bombing the sheet out of people with no real plan again. Idiots bring out other idiots. But to start up this anti-Muslim hate again, F off.

And anyone dismissing the white nationalist threat to this country is either stupid or a white nationalist. They have been a problem for a long time and Trump has emboldened them.

I think you might be missing the point, pp.

Most Americans are neither white nationalists nor Islamic extremists. Would you agree?

We are talking about select subpopulations, not the masses.

In terms of what people fear, optics are everything.

When a scary incident hits national/international news, it fuels concern.

I’m betting that the vast majority of posters aren’t white nationalists and aren’t sympathetic to their cause. They’ve likely never met a white nationalist in real life and they aren’t reading much about them in the national news. Fair?

But we are currently at war with a country ruled by religious extremists with an armed military plus radicalized gangs and sleeper cells in our country AND we are reading about a privileged Afghan-American young man who was raised in an objectively lovely affluent American community whose self-proclaimed allegiance is to death-to-America ISIS.

Surely you can understand why the masses are very worried about such behavior, right?

And it’s not an anti-Muslim fear. It’s an anti-extremist terrorist fear. We are worried about radicalized terrorists.

You just proved the point. The news will focus on this ONE incident to get people all fired up, so that they overestimate this threat.

Exactly, these people clearly majored in drama and skipped statistics altogether. It’s not new, and it’s an infection. lol at all of the morons worked up about voting fraud, willing to disenfranchise millions of voters to solve a nearly nonexistent problem. Fact is, when it does exist it’s almost assuredly not an illegal immigrant.

The fact remains that white supremacy and domestic terror are a much bigger issue in the US.

Perhaps generally, sure.

But now that we are at war, things have changed. Security threats have obviously shifted.

If you know anyone in law enforcement or the military or in charge of security at government buildings, etc., everything has shifted.

You mean the ones Kash Patel didn’t fire, right?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The anti-Muslim haters are just salivating at the chance to trot out their hate on this thread. What these men did was wrong, full stop.
Nevertheless, sit down if you are one of the anti-Muslim haters who will use this to do your hateful fear mongering just like 9/11. There are always threats to our country. We need to be vigilant right now, because our incompetent, war-mongering administration is off bombing the sheet out of people with no real plan again. Idiots bring out other idiots. But to start up this anti-Muslim hate again, F off.

And anyone dismissing the white nationalist threat to this country is either stupid or a white nationalist. They have been a problem for a long time and Trump has emboldened them.

I think you might be missing the point, pp.

Most Americans are neither white nationalists nor Islamic extremists. Would you agree?

We are talking about select subpopulations, not the masses.

In terms of what people fear, optics are everything.

When a scary incident hits national/international news, it fuels concern.

I’m betting that the vast majority of posters aren’t white nationalists and aren’t sympathetic to their cause. They’ve likely never met a white nationalist in real life and they aren’t reading much about them in the national news. Fair?

But we are currently at war with a country ruled by religious extremists with an armed military plus radicalized gangs and sleeper cells in our country AND we are reading about a privileged Afghan-American young man who was raised in an objectively lovely affluent American community whose self-proclaimed allegiance is to death-to-America ISIS.

Surely you can understand why the masses are very worried about such behavior, right?

And it’s not an anti-Muslim fear. It’s an anti-extremist terrorist fear. We are worried about radicalized terrorists.

You just proved the point. The news will focus on this ONE incident to get people all fired up, so that they overestimate this threat.

Exactly, these people clearly majored in drama and skipped statistics altogether. It’s not new, and it’s an infection. lol at all of the morons worked up about voting fraud, willing to disenfranchise millions of voters to solve a nearly nonexistent problem. Fact is, when it does exist it’s almost assuredly not an illegal immigrant.

The fact remains that white supremacy and domestic terror are a much bigger issue in the US.

A week ago, a guy wearing a “Property of Allah” shirt shot up a bar in Austin, killing multiple people. This week, two guys shouted “Allahu Akbar” while tossing bombs into a crowd. Their incompetence is the only reason multiple people aren’t dead from their actions. Do you really think Islamic terrorism is not a problem?

[Anonymous]

If two nutty white supremacists had thrown bombs with the intent of killing and/or maiming innocent people, this thread would be hundreds of pages long already.

The fact is, the extremists here are of the Islamic variety and they absolutely intended to injure and murder as many people as they could by throwing these bombs. They stated that their allegiance was to ISIS and that they had wanted this bombing to be "even bigger than the Boston Marathon."

No one at this rally was violent - just these two terrorists. We are allowed to call them out for what they are. Not "boys." Not "confused teens." They are violent Islamic extremists. Deal with it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The anti-Muslim haters are just salivating at the chance to trot out their hate on this thread. What these men did was wrong, full stop.
Nevertheless, sit down if you are one of the anti-Muslim haters who will use this to do your hateful fear mongering just like 9/11. There are always threats to our country. We need to be vigilant right now, because our incompetent, war-mongering administration is off bombing the sheet out of people with no real plan again. Idiots bring out other idiots. But to start up this anti-Muslim hate again, F off.

And anyone dismissing the white nationalist threat to this country is either stupid or a white nationalist. They have been a problem for a long time and Trump has emboldened them.

I think you might be missing the point, pp.

Most Americans are neither white nationalists nor Islamic extremists. Would you agree?

We are talking about select subpopulations, not the masses.

In terms of what people fear, optics are everything.

When a scary incident hits national/international news, it fuels concern.

I’m betting that the vast majority of posters aren’t white nationalists and aren’t sympathetic to their cause. They’ve likely never met a white nationalist in real life and they aren’t reading much about them in the national news. Fair?

But we are currently at war with a country ruled by religious extremists with an armed military plus radicalized gangs and sleeper cells in our country AND we are reading about a privileged Afghan-American young man who was raised in an objectively lovely affluent American community whose self-proclaimed allegiance is to death-to-America ISIS.

Surely you can understand why the masses are very worried about such behavior, right?

And it’s not an anti-Muslim fear. It’s an anti-extremist terrorist fear. We are worried about radicalized terrorists.

You just proved the point. The news will focus on this ONE incident to get people all fired up, so that they overestimate this threat.

Exactly, these people clearly majored in drama and skipped statistics altogether. It’s not new, and it’s an infection. lol at all of the morons worked up about voting fraud, willing to disenfranchise millions of voters to solve a nearly nonexistent problem. Fact is, when it does exist it’s almost assuredly not an illegal immigrant.

The fact remains that white supremacy and domestic terror are a much bigger issue in the US.

A week ago, a guy wearing a “Property of Allah” shirt shot up a bar in Austin, killing multiple people. This week, two guys shouted “Allahu Akbar” while tossing bombs into a crowd. Their incompetence is the only reason multiple people aren’t dead from their actions. Do you really think Islamic terrorism is not a problem?

God damn you folks are nearly impossibly ignorant. No one said it wasn’t a problem. I said that in America it’s a much smaller problem than domestic homegrown hate and terrorism. They are jail, where they should be. Of course, they likely wouldn’t have been there if it wasn’t for the hate group present at a time when we are murdering women and children in the Middle East.

The FBI agrees, or agreed before they decided that white nationalism was cool again.

1. FBI Congressional Testimony — “Confronting White Supremacy” (Hate Crimes & Domestic Terrorism)

https://www.fbi.gov/news/speeches-and-testimony/confronting-white-supremacy

Direct FBI testimony to Congress covering how the bureau combats white supremacist violence through its Counterterrorism and Criminal Investigative Divisions.

2. FBI Congressional Testimony — “Confronting White Supremacy: Examining the Biden Administration’s Counterterrorism Strategy”

https://www.fbi.gov/news/speeches-and-testimony/confronting-white-supremacy-examining-the-biden-administrations-counterterrorism-strategy-langan-092921

DOJ/FBI testimony explicitly identifying racially motivated violent extremists as a top domestic terror threat, with data from 2018–2021.

3. FBI & DHS — Strategic Intelligence Assessment and Data on Domestic Terrorism (Full Report PDF)

https://www.fbi.gov/file-repository/counterterrorism/fbi-dhs-domestic-terrorism-strategic-report.pdf

The joint FBI/DHS strategic report providing threat assessments, incident data, and methodology for tracking domestic violent extremists.

4. GAO — “Domestic Terrorism: Additional Actions Needed to Implement an Effective National Strategy” (April 2025)

https://files.gao.gov/reports/GAO-25-107030/index.html

The most recent government accountability review, noting that racially motivated extremists have been responsible for the majority of domestic terrorism-related deaths since 2010.

5. U.S. Senate Judiciary Committee Letter to DHS & FBI (April 2025)

https://www.judiciary.senate.gov/imo/media/doc/2025-04-08%20-%20Letter%20to%20DHS%20FBI%20re.%20Domestic%20Terrorism.pdf

A formal congressional inquiry citing FBI data showing a 357% increase in domestic terrorism cases from 2013–2021, raising alarms about recent federal pullback from tracking these threats.​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​

Others.

1. National Institute of Justice — “What NIJ Research Tells Us About Domestic Terrorism”

https://nij.ojp.gov/topics/articles/what-nij-research-tells-us-about-domestic-terrorism

A research-grounded overview from the federal government’s justice research arm, covering the scope and lethality of far-right extremism since 1990.

2. Brookings Institution — “The Global Rise of White Supremacist Terrorism”

https://www.brookings.edu/events/the-global-rise-of-white-supremacist-terrorism/

A panel discussion and analysis from Brookings examining how white supremacist violence has become a top counterterrorism concern both domestically and internationally.

3. PBS NewsHour — “Far-Right Violence a Growing Threat and Law Enforcement’s Top Domestic Terrorism Concern”

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/show/far-right-violence-a-growing-threat-and-law-enforcements-top-domestic-terrorism-concern

Covers the sentencing of Proud Boys leader Enrique Tarrio and includes expert analysis on the broader white power movement’s threat trajectory.

4. Brennan Center for Justice — “New Domestic Terrorism Laws Are Unnecessary for Fighting White Nationalists”

https://www.brennancenter.org/our-work/research-reports/new-domestic-terrorism-laws-are-unnecessary-fighting-white-nationalists

Examines existing legal frameworks for prosecuting white nationalist violence and critiques how federal agencies have categorized and prioritized the threat.

5. Council on Foreign Relations — “Homeland Security Emerging Threats: Domestic Terrorism and White Supremacy”

https://www.cfr.org/event/homeland-security-emerging-threats-domestic-terrorism-and-white-supremacy
A CFR panel with former DHS and national security officials discussing the history, scope, and policy response to white supremacist extremism in the U.S.​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:If two nutty white supremacists had thrown bombs with the intent of killing and/or maiming innocent people, this thread would be hundreds of pages long already.

The fact is, the extremists here are of the Islamic variety and they absolutely intended to injure and murder as many people as they could by throwing these bombs. They stated that their allegiance was to ISIS and that they had wanted this bombing to be "even bigger than the Boston Marathon."

No one at this rally was violent - just these two terrorists. We are allowed to call them out for what they are. Not "boys." Not "confused teens." They are violent Islamic extremists. Deal with it.

What are you talking about? White Supremacists are the cause of some of the USs most violent events from the Oklahoma City bombing to the church shooting to the Buffalo grocery store mass killing.

These guys were not peaceful protestors. I’m much more worried about them, thanks

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If two nutty white supremacists had thrown bombs with the intent of killing and/or maiming innocent people, this thread would be hundreds of pages long already.

The fact is, the extremists here are of the Islamic variety and they absolutely intended to injure and murder as many people as they could by throwing these bombs. They stated that their allegiance was to ISIS and that they had wanted this bombing to be "even bigger than the Boston Marathon."

No one at this rally was violent - just these two terrorists. We are allowed to call them out for what they are. Not "boys." Not "confused teens." They are violent Islamic extremists. Deal with it.

What are you talking about? White Supremacists are the cause of some of the USs most violent events from the Oklahoma City bombing to the church shooting to the Buffalo grocery store mass killing.

These guys were not peaceful protestors. I’m much more worried about them, thanks

The Oklahoma bombing was over 30 years ago. Dylan Roof, who I assume you are referring to by “church shooting” was 10 years ago. The Buffalo grocery store event was four years ago. Meanwhile, the Austin shooting was a week ago, the bombers from this thread were this week, the attack in New Orleans was on New Years 2025, there was an attack on Jews in Colorado last year as well.

Outside of the US, you have the Bondi beach attack just a few months ago, not to mention multiple attacks in Germany, France, and the Netherlands, and Austria in the last couple of years. And those were mass events, there are multiple slayings and rapes across Europe by Muslim immigrants for years.

It’s absurd to claim we should fear right-wing violence when it’s clear the greatest danger is from the modern day red-green alliance.

DP. Thank you. It’s beyond repulsive that the PP continues to insist that the fault actually lies with the nonviolent rally and not the two violent Islamic extremist terrorists. No one was throwing bombs and hoping to injure and kill as many people as possible - no one except the two ISIS-aligned terrorists.

The deflection on this thread is disgraceful. We have plenty of threads condemning white supremacy. This one is condemning Islamic extremism and terrorism.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The anti-Muslim haters are just salivating at the chance to trot out their hate on this thread. What these men did was wrong, full stop.
Nevertheless, sit down if you are one of the anti-Muslim haters who will use this to do your hateful fear mongering just like 9/11. There are always threats to our country. We need to be vigilant right now, because our incompetent, war-mongering administration is off bombing the sheet out of people with no real plan again. Idiots bring out other idiots. But to start up this anti-Muslim hate again, F off.

And anyone dismissing the white nationalist threat to this country is either stupid or a white nationalist. They have been a problem for a long time and Trump has emboldened them.

I think you might be missing the point, pp.

Most Americans are neither white nationalists nor Islamic extremists. Would you agree?

We are talking about select subpopulations, not the masses.

In terms of what people fear, optics are everything.

When a scary incident hits national/international news, it fuels concern.

I’m betting that the vast majority of posters aren’t white nationalists and aren’t sympathetic to their cause. They’ve likely never met a white nationalist in real life and they aren’t reading much about them in the national news. Fair?

But we are currently at war with a country ruled by religious extremists with an armed military plus radicalized gangs and sleeper cells in our country AND we are reading about a privileged Afghan-American young man who was raised in an objectively lovely affluent American community whose self-proclaimed allegiance is to death-to-America ISIS.

Surely you can understand why the masses are very worried about such behavior, right?

And it’s not an anti-Muslim fear. It’s an anti-extremist terrorist fear. We are worried about radicalized terrorists.

You just proved the point. The news will focus on this ONE incident to get people all fired up, so that they overestimate this threat.

Exactly, these people clearly majored in drama and skipped statistics altogether. It’s not new, and it’s an infection. lol at all of the morons worked up about voting fraud, willing to disenfranchise millions of voters to solve a nearly nonexistent problem. Fact is, when it does exist it’s almost assuredly not an illegal immigrant.

The fact remains that white supremacy and domestic terror are a much bigger issue in the US.

A week ago, a guy wearing a “Property of Allah” shirt shot up a bar in Austin, killing multiple people. This week, two guys shouted “Allahu Akbar” while tossing bombs into a crowd. Their incompetence is the only reason multiple people aren’t dead from their actions. Do you really think Islamic terrorism is not a problem?

+100

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If two nutty white supremacists had thrown bombs with the intent of killing and/or maiming innocent people, this thread would be hundreds of pages long already.

The fact is, the extremists here are of the Islamic variety and they absolutely intended to injure and murder as many people as they could by throwing these bombs. They stated that their allegiance was to ISIS and that they had wanted this bombing to be "even bigger than the Boston Marathon."

No one at this rally was violent - just these two terrorists. We are allowed to call them out for what they are. Not "boys." Not "confused teens." They are violent Islamic extremists. Deal with it.

What are you talking about? White Supremacists are the cause of some of the USs most violent events from the Oklahoma City bombing to the church shooting to the Buffalo grocery store mass killing.

These guys were not peaceful protestors. I’m much more worried about them, thanks

Correctly.

These clowns are really digging in on their love of white supremacy and domestic terrorism. It’s fine, we know that they are wrong, as does anyone with a lick of sense. That doesn’t change because they love their neonazi heroes.

I’ll be less concerned when we get a functioning DOJ back in place. I hope that at the very least they are photographing and tracking the people at the protest for the future.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Is this just being ignored here?
These two will be federally charged......

Two young men - Emir Balat, age 18 and Ibrahim Kayumi, age 19 - threw two explosive devices at a protest on Sunday. Fortunately, neither detonated although they were both considered highly functional IEDs. Balat’s parents are both from Turkey & were naturalized into US citizens in 2017, while Ibrahim Kayumi’s parents are both from Afghanistan. Mom naturalized in 2009, dad naturalized in 2004.

Video footage shows at least one of them yelling, "Allahu Akbar" at the protest while throwing the device.

NYPD also found an additional device in a car belonging to one of the suspects yesterday.

Some of the information provided by Jessica Tisch at the press conference moments ago:

While in police custody, bodycam footage shows that Balat said: “All praise is due to Allah lord of all worlds! I pledge my allegience [sic] to the Islamic State. Die in your rage yu [sic] kuffar!”
“this isn’t a religion that just stands when people talk about the blessed name of the prophet . . . We take action!”

From the criminal complaint: “BALAT wrote on a piece of paper that he ‘pledge[d] allegience to the Islamic State’ and KAYUMI stated, in substance and in part, that he was affiliated with ISIS; watched ISIS propaganda on his phone; and was partly inspired to carry out his actions that day by ISIS. BALAT additionally stated that they wanted to carry out an attack bigger than the Boston Marathon bombing, which BALAT noted caused only ‘three
deaths.’”

Get used to it, Trump started a holy war.

Um, this fight goes back to at least 1979. But nice try.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If two nutty white supremacists had thrown bombs with the intent of killing and/or maiming innocent people, this thread would be hundreds of pages long already.

The fact is, the extremists here are of the Islamic variety and they absolutely intended to injure and murder as many people as they could by throwing these bombs. They stated that their allegiance was to ISIS and that they had wanted this bombing to be "even bigger than the Boston Marathon."

No one at this rally was violent - just these two terrorists. We are allowed to call them out for what they are. Not "boys." Not "confused teens." They are violent Islamic extremists. Deal with it.

What are you talking about? White Supremacists are the cause of some of the USs most violent events from the Oklahoma City bombing to the church shooting to the Buffalo grocery store mass killing.

These guys were not peaceful protestors. I’m much more worried about them, thanks

Correctly.

These clowns are really digging in on their love of white supremacy and domestic terrorism. It’s fine, we know that they are wrong, as does anyone with a lick of sense. That doesn’t change because they love their neonazi heroes.

I’ll be less concerned when we get a functioning DOJ back in place. I hope that at the very least they are photographing and tracking the people at the protest for the future.

Your refusal to condemn the Islamic terrorists who threw the bombs, and your insistence on deflecting to the people at the rally who did nothing violent, tells us all we need to know.