Acceptance to more selective schools based on merit at T40-T50 schools

[Anonymous]

Monroe is highly selective though. It's not your typical T40-50 merit.

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Anonymous wrote:For DS, no.

Top 40 with merit.

Rejected at T20 -- cs/math major.

Any luck with T20-30?

Waitlisted at UMich. They asked if DC was still interested but DC decided to just stay in state at UMD with merit, which is T20ish for CS. In the end, it worked out well. DC is very happy there, and it saved us a ton of money.

DC had really high stats: 1580 SAT, 4.0/4.92 wgpa from a magnet program.

oh man, this even isn't enough for any one of T20 CS/Math?

It’s not just about the top stats.
In RD they’re just so few CS slots left. You need to fill another institutional priority to make your application desirable.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Got merit at a couple of T40-T50 schools, DC is trying to figure out how much that usually carries over to more selective schools. For people who’ve been through this, does getting merit in that range usually mean you’ve got a real shot higher up (T15-T30?) too, or is it not that predictive? Just curious what others have seen from actual results. Didn't apply to USC EA.

Not necessarily. One of mine received admission at one T10 and merit scholarship at a T20 but was shunned by other T10s and two T20.

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Anonymous wrote:Got merit at a couple of T40-T50 schools, DC is trying to figure out how much that usually carries over to more selective schools. For people who’ve been through this, does getting merit in that range usually mean you’ve got a real shot higher up (T15-T30?) too, or is it not that predictive? Just curious what others have seen from actual results. Didn't apply to USC EA.

Not necessarily. One of mine received admission at one T10 and merit scholarship at a T20 but was shunned by other T10s and two T20.

For what major?
Anything stand out about your kid other than the stats?

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Anonymous wrote:Accepted w/ merit at W&M (Monroe)

Accepted: Cornell, Rice, Tufts

Denied: Yale, Williams, Pomona

WL: Amherst, Dartmouth

1570, near top of class

Thanks - this is my child this year - similar academics and major interest, W&M with merit, and three of the same reach schools. It will be an interesting month.

Good luck! The waiting is be stressful but hang in there!

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:For DS, no.

Top 40 with merit.

Rejected at T20 -- cs/math major.

Any luck with T20-30?

Waitlisted at UMich. They asked if DC was still interested but DC decided to just stay in state at UMD with merit, which is T20ish for CS. In the end, it worked out well. DC is very happy there, and it saved us a ton of money.

DC had really high stats: 1580 SAT, 4.0/4.92 wgpa from a magnet program.

oh man, this even isn't enough for any one of T20 CS/Math?

It’s not just about the top stats.
In RD they’re just so few CS slots left. You need to fill another institutional priority to make your application desirable.

Don't think it's because few CS slots left. It's just an oversubscribed major and the competition is high with tons of applicants.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:For DS, no.

Top 40 with merit.

Rejected at T20 -- cs/math major.

Any luck with T20-30?

Waitlisted at UMich. They asked if DC was still interested but DC decided to just stay in state at UMD with merit, which is T20ish for CS. In the end, it worked out well. DC is very happy there, and it saved us a ton of money.

DC had really high stats: 1580 SAT, 4.0/4.92 wgpa from a magnet program.

oh man, this even isn't enough for any one of T20 CS/Math?

It’s not just about the top stats.
In RD they’re just so few CS slots left. You need to fill another institutional priority to make your application desirable.

Don't think it's because few CS slots left. It's just an oversubscribed major and the competition is high with tons of applicants.

What’s the real difference between that? Oversubscribed = limited slots as the process goes on? Or is it something else?

Just watched the YouTube episode in the other thread, called Hooks, and it was interesting. How he honed in on the one narrow area of engineering where they might need more students in RD. They got that in the weeds.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:For DS, no.

Top 40 with merit.

Rejected at T20 -- cs/math major.

Any luck with T20-30?

Waitlisted at UMich. They asked if DC was still interested but DC decided to just stay in state at UMD with merit, which is T20ish for CS. In the end, it worked out well. DC is very happy there, and it saved us a ton of money.

DC had really high stats: 1580 SAT, 4.0/4.92 wgpa from a magnet program.

oh man, this even isn't enough for any one of T20 CS/Math?

It’s not just about the top stats.
In RD they’re just so few CS slots left. You need to fill another institutional priority to make your application desirable.

Don't think it's because few CS slots left. It's just an oversubscribed major and the competition is high with tons of applicants.

What’s the real difference between that? Oversubscribed = limited slots as the process goes on? Or is it something else?

Just watched the YouTube episode in the other thread, called Hooks, and it was interesting. How he honed in on the one narrow area of engineering where they might need more students in RD. They got that in the weeds.

"In RD they’re just so few CS slots left. "

You made it sound like ED took most of CS slots. It's not.

[Anonymous]

If you look on Reddit, all the kids freaking out are the ones who basically shotgunned all the top schools for computer science, engineering, business, or math. And a sprinkle of premed.

They are all the same kid.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:For DS, no.

Top 40 with merit.

Rejected at T20 -- cs/math major.

Any luck with T20-30?

Waitlisted at UMich. They asked if DC was still interested but DC decided to just stay in state at UMD with merit, which is T20ish for CS. In the end, it worked out well. DC is very happy there, and it saved us a ton of money.

DC had really high stats: 1580 SAT, 4.0/4.92 wgpa from a magnet program.

oh man, this even isn't enough for any one of T20 CS/Math?

It’s not just about the top stats.
In RD they’re just so few CS slots left. You need to fill another institutional priority to make your application desirable.

PP here.. sorry, I was not clear. DC applied all EA. DC was waitlisted at UMich and pushed to RD. I can't recall exactly when UMich contacted DC, but I do believe it was before May 1 because I told DC if they are interested they should let UMich know, but by then DC had already accepted to UMD and was fine with it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:If you look on Reddit, all the kids freaking out are the ones who basically shotgunned all the top schools for computer science, engineering, business, or math. And a sprinkle of premed.

They are all the same kid.

This is probably true, but there was one kid I know who had amazing extra curriculars from a magnet program who was also rejected to the T20. DC was shocked at this, and didn't feel as badly that they were also rejected. While DC had amazing stats, they didn't have outstanding extra curriculars, other than being an Eagle Scout (is that even considered an outstanding achievement these days?).

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:If you look on Reddit, all the kids freaking out are the ones who basically shotgunned all the top schools for computer science, engineering, business, or math. And a sprinkle of premed.

They are all the same kid.

This is so immensely sad.

[Anonymous]

A good dataset would be to see what percentage of the people worried about this post back here in three weeks with their outcomes. And what the majors were and what the schools were.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:A good dataset would be to see what percentage of the people worried about this post back here in three weeks with their outcomes. And what the majors were and what the schools were.

No need.

The yield rates at these merit schools tell you a vast majority of merit admits go somewhere else. More likely than not, they got admitted into a higher up.

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Anonymous wrote:A good dataset would be to see what percentage of the people worried about this post back here in three weeks with their outcomes. And what the majors were and what the schools were.

No need.

The yield rates at these merit schools tell you a vast majority of merit admits go somewhere else. More likely than not, they got admitted into a higher up.

That's not what this post anecdotally seems to be saying, is it?