Anonymous wrote:What would be the proper way to request that a poster stating something as a fact provide some evidence to support their statements? Are we to simply accept as true anything anyone posts?
The very best way is not to ask them to support their claim, but rather present a different claim that you support with links to sources. If you are authentically baffled and honestly don't know whether what they are saying is accurate, then simply, write "Could you please provide a link that supports what you are saying? Posting "Cite?" has become mostly passive aggressive these days.
And if you know they are full of sht or misrepresenting “research”?
Or if they use NY Post as a “source” for some click-bait claim?
I ask for citations to actively fight misinformation. Nothing passive about it.
If you think that typing "Cite?" is an effective method of combatting misinformation, you are likely a victim of misinformation.
People post stupid clickbait nonsense constantly. I don't have the time or energy to fight it all of with extensively-researched retorts. I guess I can report all of the stupid clickbait posts if you'd prefer that. I already do report the most egregious ones.
IMO, people should be prepared to back up wild claims with facts. But I guess that's just me.
It comes down to how much garbage are you comfortable having on DCUM.
🎯 We shouldn't have to spend 1/2 hour or more trying to dig up research, or try to master a new subject, in order to refute some wild claim. The burden should be on the poster who makes the wild claim to back it up.
FWIW, I do research for a living, and citations are my bread and butter. Although I don't think I've used the word "cite" here recently, lol. Jeff does a good job with hyperlinks in his blog/op-eds on the home page.
+100
The burden of proof should be on the person making the claim. I disregard any claims thrown out without a citation to back them up. My favorite is when you ask for a citation and the person tells you to "just google it" or "do your own research." Nope. You make the claim, the onus is on you to back it up. Otherwise, it's just a stream of BS to be ignored.
yes, just ignore the post...we don't answer to each other here, not obligated to
No, I’m not going to ignore misinformation.
but the person you are responding to is not going to address your "non-ignoring" to your satisfaction, you effort will be fruitless.
DP. By calling out people who refuse to provide citations, you are making sure that others know that poster is lying/posting fake info. By simply letting BS stand unchallenged, you’re tacitly acknowledging it could be true - when it’s not. If the person chooses to continue not providing citations/sources, then it’s clear to all that they’re lying.
No, that is not what is happening. All you are doing is saying you, individually, doubt what they are saying. And you, as a random person on this site, do not have any more credibility than the person you are claiming to doubt. Internet forums are all about confirmation bias satisfaction, because none of us have any credibility or influence over each other. That is why frustration is evident on web forums, people trying to influence, but it never happens, so they "try" harder and harder, fruitlessly, but cursing, insulting, asking what they think are educational rhetorical questions, etc. None of it works.
Anonymous wrote:What would be the proper way to request that a poster stating something as a fact provide some evidence to support their statements? Are we to simply accept as true anything anyone posts?
The very best way is not to ask them to support their claim, but rather present a different claim that you support with links to sources. If you are authentically baffled and honestly don't know whether what they are saying is accurate, then simply, write "Could you please provide a link that supports what you are saying? Posting "Cite?" has become mostly passive aggressive these days.
And if you know they are full of sht or misrepresenting “research”?
Or if they use NY Post as a “source” for some click-bait claim?
I ask for citations to actively fight misinformation. Nothing passive about it.
If you think that typing "Cite?" is an effective method of combatting misinformation, you are likely a victim of misinformation.
People post stupid clickbait nonsense constantly. I don't have the time or energy to fight it all of with extensively-researched retorts. I guess I can report all of the stupid clickbait posts if you'd prefer that. I already do report the most egregious ones.
IMO, people should be prepared to back up wild claims with facts. But I guess that's just me.
It comes down to how much garbage are you comfortable having on DCUM.
🎯 We shouldn't have to spend 1/2 hour or more trying to dig up research, or try to master a new subject, in order to refute some wild claim. The burden should be on the poster who makes the wild claim to back it up.
FWIW, I do research for a living, and citations are my bread and butter. Although I don't think I've used the word "cite" here recently, lol. Jeff does a good job with hyperlinks in his blog/op-eds on the home page.
+100
The burden of proof should be on the person making the claim. I disregard any claims thrown out without a citation to back them up. My favorite is when you ask for a citation and the person tells you to "just google it" or "do your own research." Nope. You make the claim, the onus is on you to back it up. Otherwise, it's just a stream of BS to be ignored.
yes, just ignore the post...we don't answer to each other here, not obligated to
No, I’m not going to ignore misinformation.
but the person you are responding to is not going to address your "non-ignoring" to your satisfaction, you effort will be fruitless.
DP. By calling out people who refuse to provide citations, you are making sure that others know that poster is lying/posting fake info. By simply letting BS stand unchallenged, you’re tacitly acknowledging it could be true - when it’s not. If the person chooses to continue not providing citations/sources, then it’s clear to all that they’re lying.
+1
Clearly some people DGAF about facts/reality, but I do and I will continue to fight misinformation.
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