Wes Moore Wants to Destroy Your Neighborhood

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:If this passes, I will finally leave MD.

Moore is doing so badly in every aspect of his job, but this will be used to act like he cares about housing and put him back on the national stage.

this passing will be a disaster and the net migration #'s will get much worse

I see this all over social media. Don't let the door hit ya where the good lord split ya.

Yep. I’ll be fine too. What is wrong with him.

[Anonymous]

Some people don’t mind density. Others hate it. There should be options for all. I personally don’t like it. More crime, more cars, more noise, more trash, and more people. I bought where I bought to avoid all these things. If that changes, I’ll wave as the door hits me in my fat aZz.

[Anonymous]

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Anytime you title your thread with "X wants to destroy your stuff", you lose credibility, OP. People won't fall for such gross exaggeration.

he does want to destroy your neighborhood but not your property taxes. almost certain this will mean higher property taxes and not less.

we are already losing so many people in this state and with the federal jobs gone, moores multiple tax incrreases, he will final destroy this great state

If the population goes up, the government needs go provide more services.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If this passes, I will finally leave MD.

Moore is doing so badly in every aspect of his job, but this will be used to act like he cares about housing and put him back on the national stage.

this passing will be a disaster and the net migration #'s will get much worse

I see this all over social media. Don't let the door hit ya where the good lord split ya.

what are you blabbing about? this IS happening. look at our net migration, we are one of the states losing the MOST people and tax $'s.

we arer # 42 in net migration(negative) and #48 in growth. but the liberals think the party will never end.

The red states have very permissive building codes…I’m not sure where you are going to avoid liberals, that somehow also has tight zoning.

I mean, go to TX and FL and you see industrial sites built next to houses built next to trailer parks built next to condos…

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Sighhhhhhh

America so desperately thinks they can plan urban design like Japan, but it will be a disaster because America never plans anything right. For starters, the US doesn't have the infrastructure to be designed like Japan. Our public transport sucks ass. Everyone drives everywhere.

All we are going to get are a bunch of neighborhoods that were designed for SFHs now flooded with townhouses, multiplexes and apartments. You are ging to get a million cars parking on the streets, trash problems, and water problems. People are still going to drive everywhere.

This is what gets me! In my already dense MD neighborhood there are 3 huge apartment complexes going up with 1 parking space per unit. Most of us don't have driveways and rely on street parking, yet my family of 4 is the only one of all my neighbors with only one car, so i assume parking will become absolutely impossible.

And yet...these apartments aren't being planned as mixed use, they're 100 percent residential and actually displaced the closest walkable corner store type retail. There IS transit, but it's one of those systems where you have to get to the center of town and then take another bus out to get anywhere, which takes forever. So walkability is actually getting worse, and everyone's going to have to jump in their cars to drive on busy roads with no bike lanes for a gallon of milk, and then come home and fight for parking.

We bought our house because we wanted to be LESS car reliant. If you just build it a bunch of really really crowded functional suburbs, it's worse than both city and suburban living.

[Anonymous]

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-Eliminate single family zoning: All this means is that they will allow townhomes where there is single family zoning.

-Enforce a minimum zoned density of 8units/acre - this is only for townhomes with public water and this is a common industry standard.

-Eliminate lot coverage limits: This just means houses will be closer together like in the Kentlands in Maryland, essentially no yard. It makes houses more affordable.

-Make lot setbacks 5ft side/10ft front - IDK if I care about this or not, why do you?

-Eliminate height restrictions: This at 1st glance might make you think they can build bigger structure but it is so they can build smaller more affordable homes.

My response:
Eliminate SF zoning: A wall of 50 foot tall townhomes would block the sunlight to my yard and home
8 unit/acre density: my neighborhood was designed planned for 1 unit/acre density, roads cannot handle 6-8x traffic and there is no ROW to make roads with 8x density.
Lot coverage limits: This will increase run-off/impervious surfacwes. It will create a higher risk of flooding and water damage for homes in my neighborhood. I have already experienced an increase in flooding from my neighbors home addition, eliminating lot coverage requirements will make this much worse.
Reducing setbacks: Increases the risk of fires spreading from home to home and it will raise home insurance rates. Home insurance companies use the distance from neighboring buildings in their risk models because it increased the risk of wind damage, fire damage, etc.
Setbacks of 5-10ft can also create significant noise pollution issues, when homes have AC units right next to your property line.
Eliminating height limits: people are going to build whatever they are allowed to build a that is economically feasible to build. Yes people will absolutely build 45-50 foot homes on postage stamps lots. This will turn my house into a basement, kill my garden and make it feel like I live in a fishbowl.

The limit is 35 ft high.

It protects people trying to build smaller houses.

No it does not say this. It says notwithstanding any other law, a legislative body may not establish any requirements that directly or indirectly regulate exterior dimensions. That means that height limits for residential zoning will be unenforceable for areas subject to this law. You either did not read this bill or you are lying to reduce opposition to it.

Well, that’s because there is another law called building code that limits it to 35 feet. Ffs!

Yes, the bill does not state everything we already know.

The building limit is so that people can make shorter buildings, not taller buildings.

The building code does not limit height to 35ft zoning does. You have no idea what you are talking about.

[Anonymous]

COX is the Republican candidate election denier liar anti American crap

Moore will win again and he should republicans suck

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:COX is the Republican candidate election denier liar anti American crap

Moore will win again and he should republicans suck

Obviously he will win again. Doesn’t mean that his campaign to eliminate zoning is a good idea though.

[Anonymous]

So glad I don't live in MD.

[Anonymous]

Folks…there is national legislation being debated as we speak to create national zoning and building code laws that actually support a number of the things Moore is trying to do in MD.

It’s being spearheaded by republicans with lots of democrat support. It’s a rare bipartisan issue.

I guess you will have to leave the country if you don’t like it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Folks…there is national legislation being debated as we speak to create national zoning and building code laws that actually support a number of the things Moore is trying to do in MD.

It’s being spearheaded by republicans with lots of democrat support. It’s a rare bipartisan issue.

I guess you will have to leave the country if you don’t like it.

Haha this will get tied up in court. SCOTUS will say it violates state rights because they don’t want their own neighborhoods to go to crap.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Folks…there is national legislation being debated as we speak to create national zoning and building code laws that actually support a number of the things Moore is trying to do in MD.

It’s being spearheaded by republicans with lots of democrat support. It’s a rare bipartisan issue.

I guess you will have to leave the country if you don’t like it.

Also that is a complete BS response just move out of the country. Good luck have fun living in the Handmaids Tale dictatorship. I will go live somewhere that is still a democracy and not a corrupt oligarchy.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The governor of Maryland is pushing an absurb bill this year to eliminate zoning everywhere in Marylnd that has access to public sewer. The proposed bill (HB239/SB36) will do the following:
-Eliminate single family zoning
-Enforce a minimum zoned density of 8units/acre
-Eliminate lot coverage limits
-Make lot setbacks 5ft side/10ft front
-Eliminate height restrictions

I would strongly recommend calling the governors office and your state representatives to voice your opposition to this bill. This law will completely destroy many suburban neighborhoods and ruin quality of life.

You are the exact reason that Dems can never build anything. You are the reason why Erza Klein wrote his book, Abundance. Because red states don't have strong zoning, they are able to build everything from housing to clean energy. Meanwhile in blue states, NIMBYs tie up everything for years!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:So glad I don't live in MD.

If you lived in TX, you would have very little zoning so there is that.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The governor of Maryland is pushing an absurb bill this year to eliminate zoning everywhere in Marylnd that has access to public sewer. The proposed bill (HB239/SB36) will do the following:
-Eliminate single family zoning
-Enforce a minimum zoned density of 8units/acre
-Eliminate lot coverage limits
-Make lot setbacks 5ft side/10ft front
-Eliminate height restrictions

I would strongly recommend calling the governors office and your state representatives to voice your opposition to this bill. This law will completely destroy many suburban neighborhoods and ruin quality of life.

You are the exact reason that Dems can never build anything. You are the reason why Erza Klein wrote his book, Abundance. Because red states don't have strong zoning, they are able to build everything from housing to clean energy. Meanwhile in blue states, NIMBYs tie up everything for years!

It's related...but not the same.

I don't have a big issue with zoning laws...but Abundance is about people using laws in ways that weren't intended in order to hold up development after they lose on zoning.

Great example was the Purple Line getting delayed for like a year because someone claimed it would endanger "land shrimp". Clearly, nobody gave a f**k or even now gives a f**k about land shrimp, but since they lost on the Purple Line happening they scoured the environmental laws to find something to throw another wrench in the works.

This is what has to stop. If a developer or private citizen wants to build something that complies with local zoning, they should be able to walk in and get a permit and start building the next day.