Buses and bus depot snow removal

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Anonymous wrote:Sidewalks at bus stops may be a mess but schools will open anyway.

The best think parents could do last week and this weekend was to buy their kids snowboots to handle the snowbanks.

That was kind of you to offer parents snow boots for them and their kids

I'm a DCUM poor, and even I equip my family properly for winter. You buy in November. If your kid changes shoe size over the winter, you curse and buy again as soon as you realize it. BTDT.

DCUM poor isn’t the issue. There are really poor people in the county. Including those who have never had to deal with snow and ice before.

I grew up really poor. We got laughed at for wearing plastic bags over our shoes to try to stay dry. Fine, we got to school in the rain rather than sitting at home. However, you can’t climb a 2 foot mound of ice with plastic bags tied over your shoes.

I did, too. That's not how you do it. You put the plastic bags *inside* the shoes to keep your feet dry.

I find it hard to believe someone would actually do it the other way. Obviously that isn't going to work. The plastic would just tear.

DP. Nah kids who needed this method did it both ways.

I've seen plastic bags used many times. I've never seen someone try to put them outside the shoes. That isn't going to work. It will tear, and before it tears, you're going to fall. If you've seen people in Maryland do that, to maybe we do need to send a mass email out telling people what not to do.

I have seen plastic bags inside shoes. Then you just don't wear shoes at your desk, or, ideally, you bring a second set of old shoes.

As a child, you didn’t wear shoes at your desk at school? Or , as a child, you brought the old shoes that were now a size too small to wear all day?

Or you have only seen adults do this and have no idea what it is like to be a child sitting in soaking wet shoes in school for six hours?

Both would happen. We'd usually wear shoes, but sometimes not if they were soaked with water or mud.

In my elementary school, they actually encouraged us to keep a second set of shoes at school since they'd often be soaked after recess. I know MCPS doesn't do that, but they're much more reluctant to send kids outside for recess.

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Anonymous wrote:Sidewalks at bus stops may be a mess but schools will open anyway.

The best think parents could do last week and this weekend was to buy their kids snowboots to handle the snowbanks.

That was kind of you to offer parents snow boots for them and their kids

I'm a DCUM poor, and even I equip my family properly for winter. You buy in November. If your kid changes shoe size over the winter, you curse and buy again as soon as you realize it. BTDT.

DCUM poor isn’t the issue. There are really poor people in the county. Including those who have never had to deal with snow and ice before.

I grew up really poor. We got laughed at for wearing plastic bags over our shoes to try to stay dry. Fine, we got to school in the rain rather than sitting at home. However, you can’t climb a 2 foot mound of ice with plastic bags tied over your shoes.

I did, too. That's not how you do it. You put the plastic bags *inside* the shoes to keep your feet dry.

I find it hard to believe someone would actually do it the other way. Obviously that isn't going to work. The plastic would just tear.

DP. Nah kids who needed this method did it both ways.

I've seen plastic bags used many times. I've never seen someone try to put them outside the shoes. That isn't going to work. It will tear, and before it tears, you're going to fall. If you've seen people in Maryland do that, to maybe we do need to send a mass email out telling people what not to do.

I have seen plastic bags inside shoes. Then you just don't wear shoes at your desk, or, ideally, you bring a second set of old shoes.

Yes, see right here in the Old line state in the 80s by yours truly.

Well, I guess that tracks with Marylanders overall lack of common sense with snow.

MD is not equipped like your snow hole country

It's not a matter of equipment. It is a matter of common sense. Marylanders don't seem to have it if people are trying to walk around with plastic bags OVER their shoes.

How do you know they didn't also wear a bag inside their shoes?

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Anonymous wrote:Sidewalks at bus stops may be a mess but schools will open anyway.

The best think parents could do last week and this weekend was to buy their kids snowboots to handle the snowbanks.

That was kind of you to offer parents snow boots for them and their kids

I'm a DCUM poor, and even I equip my family properly for winter. You buy in November. If your kid changes shoe size over the winter, you curse and buy again as soon as you realize it. BTDT.

DCUM poor isn’t the issue. There are really poor people in the county. Including those who have never had to deal with snow and ice before.

I grew up really poor. We got laughed at for wearing plastic bags over our shoes to try to stay dry. Fine, we got to school in the rain rather than sitting at home. However, you can’t climb a 2 foot mound of ice with plastic bags tied over your shoes.

I did, too. That's not how you do it. You put the plastic bags *inside* the shoes to keep your feet dry.

I find it hard to believe someone would actually do it the other way. Obviously that isn't going to work. The plastic would just tear.

DP. Nah kids who needed this method did it both ways.

I've seen plastic bags used many times. I've never seen someone try to put them outside the shoes. That isn't going to work. It will tear, and before it tears, you're going to fall. If you've seen people in Maryland do that, to maybe we do need to send a mass email out telling people what not to do.

I have seen plastic bags inside shoes. Then you just don't wear shoes at your desk, or, ideally, you bring a second set of old shoes.

Yes, see right here in the Old line state in the 80s by yours truly.

Well, I guess that tracks with Marylanders overall lack of common sense with snow.

MD is not equipped like your snow hole country

It's not a matter of equipment. It is a matter of common sense. Marylanders don't seem to have it if people are trying to walk around with plastic bags OVER their shoes.

You are very ignorant. You can't imagine families' lives outside your privileged life.

It is privileged to know that the bags go on the inside of the shoes? I don't get what you mean. It costs the same either way. But one way works, and the other way does not.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Sidewalks at bus stops may be a mess but schools will open anyway.

The best think parents could do last week and this weekend was to buy their kids snowboots to handle the snowbanks.

That was kind of you to offer parents snow boots for them and their kids

I'm a DCUM poor, and even I equip my family properly for winter. You buy in November. If your kid changes shoe size over the winter, you curse and buy again as soon as you realize it. BTDT.

DCUM poor isn’t the issue. There are really poor people in the county. Including those who have never had to deal with snow and ice before.

I grew up really poor. We got laughed at for wearing plastic bags over our shoes to try to stay dry. Fine, we got to school in the rain rather than sitting at home. However, you can’t climb a 2 foot mound of ice with plastic bags tied over your shoes.

I did, too. That's not how you do it. You put the plastic bags *inside* the shoes to keep your feet dry.

I find it hard to believe someone would actually do it the other way. Obviously that isn't going to work. The plastic would just tear.

DP. Nah kids who needed this method did it both ways.

I've seen plastic bags used many times. I've never seen someone try to put them outside the shoes. That isn't going to work. It will tear, and before it tears, you're going to fall. If you've seen people in Maryland do that, to maybe we do need to send a mass email out telling people what not to do.

I have seen plastic bags inside shoes. Then you just don't wear shoes at your desk, or, ideally, you bring a second set of old shoes.

Yes, see right here in the Old line state in the 80s by yours truly.

Well, I guess that tracks with Marylanders overall lack of common sense with snow.

MD is not equipped like your snow hole country

It's not a matter of equipment. It is a matter of common sense. Marylanders don't seem to have it if people are trying to walk around with plastic bags OVER their shoes.

How do you know they didn't also wear a bag inside their shoes?

I've never seen someone in Maryland wear them on the outside of their shoes. I believe you that it happens. And apparently there would be value to explaining why it's a terrible idea, given people here lose any notion of common sense when they see snow.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Sidewalks at bus stops may be a mess but schools will open anyway.

The best think parents could do last week and this weekend was to buy their kids snowboots to handle the snowbanks.

That was kind of you to offer parents snow boots for them and their kids

I'm a DCUM poor, and even I equip my family properly for winter. You buy in November. If your kid changes shoe size over the winter, you curse and buy again as soon as you realize it. BTDT.

DCUM poor isn’t the issue. There are really poor people in the county. Including those who have never had to deal with snow and ice before.

I grew up really poor. We got laughed at for wearing plastic bags over our shoes to try to stay dry. Fine, we got to school in the rain rather than sitting at home. However, you can’t climb a 2 foot mound of ice with plastic bags tied over your shoes.

I did, too. That's not how you do it. You put the plastic bags *inside* the shoes to keep your feet dry.

I find it hard to believe someone would actually do it the other way. Obviously that isn't going to work. The plastic would just tear.

DP. Nah kids who needed this method did it both ways.

I've seen plastic bags used many times. I've never seen someone try to put them outside the shoes. That isn't going to work. It will tear, and before it tears, you're going to fall. If you've seen people in Maryland do that, to maybe we do need to send a mass email out telling people what not to do.

I have seen plastic bags inside shoes. Then you just don't wear shoes at your desk, or, ideally, you bring a second set of old shoes.

Yes, see right here in the Old line state in the 80s by yours truly.

Well, I guess that tracks with Marylanders overall lack of common sense with snow.

MD is not equipped like your snow hole country

It's not a matter of equipment. It is a matter of common sense. Marylanders don't seem to have it if people are trying to walk around with plastic bags OVER their shoes.

You are very ignorant. You can't imagine families' lives outside your privileged life.

It is privileged to know that the bags go on the inside of the shoes? I don't get what you mean. It costs the same either way. But one way works, and the other way does not.

If someone has to actually answer that, you really are ignorant.

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Anonymous wrote:Are buses ready?

Bus depot?

Bus drivers navigating on these conditions?

13k bus stops?

Sidewalks leading to those bus stops? (County was going to resume enforcement of unshoveled sidewalks Monday)

They've been working on bus depots since last week. The pictures looked pretty good at the Clarksburg depot, and those were taken 5 days ago.

Bus stops and sidewalks don't need to be fully clear. Kids can walk on snow. But the county did a lot of work on sidewalks over the weekend.

And how are the roads where buses pass through? Looked like blocks of freezing rain. How will bus drivers turn around those snow banks? Will guardS be mitigating the intersections to assist bus drivers?! And the students who walk to and from school? And to the bus stops? Not everyone lives on a cul de sac.

Most streets are fine. There may be some exceptional cases where buses have to modify their routes. People will manage.

Source?

The county itself and a week of driving around.

So you saw ALL the roads where two lanes turn into one? It's bad enough that buses go through streets that are basically one lane both directions when there is no snow. And you want them to go through areas now where the snow is piled so they can't get through safely?

I've seen roads that have a lane clear. Just like I've seen roads that normally only have one lane available after cars park on both sides. People can manage. That's not a safety issue. It's a convenience issue.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Sidewalks at bus stops may be a mess but schools will open anyway.

The best think parents could do last week and this weekend was to buy their kids snowboots to handle the snowbanks.

That was kind of you to offer parents snow boots for them and their kids

I'm a DCUM poor, and even I equip my family properly for winter. You buy in November. If your kid changes shoe size over the winter, you curse and buy again as soon as you realize it. BTDT.

DCUM poor isn’t the issue. There are really poor people in the county. Including those who have never had to deal with snow and ice before.

I grew up really poor. We got laughed at for wearing plastic bags over our shoes to try to stay dry. Fine, we got to school in the rain rather than sitting at home. However, you can’t climb a 2 foot mound of ice with plastic bags tied over your shoes.

I did, too. That's not how you do it. You put the plastic bags *inside* the shoes to keep your feet dry.

I find it hard to believe someone would actually do it the other way. Obviously that isn't going to work. The plastic would just tear.

DP. Nah kids who needed this method did it both ways.

I've seen plastic bags used many times. I've never seen someone try to put them outside the shoes. That isn't going to work. It will tear, and before it tears, you're going to fall. If you've seen people in Maryland do that, to maybe we do need to send a mass email out telling people what not to do.

I have seen plastic bags inside shoes. Then you just don't wear shoes at your desk, or, ideally, you bring a second set of old shoes.

Yes, see right here in the Old line state in the 80s by yours truly.

Well, I guess that tracks with Marylanders overall lack of common sense with snow.

MD is not equipped like your snow hole country

It's not a matter of equipment. It is a matter of common sense. Marylanders don't seem to have it if people are trying to walk around with plastic bags OVER their shoes.

You are very ignorant. You can't imagine families' lives outside your privileged life.

It is privileged to know that the bags go on the inside of the shoes? I don't get what you mean. It costs the same either way. But one way works, and the other way does not.

If someone has to actually answer that, you really are ignorant.

If people are that oblivious to how to handle snow, then the district should send out an email with tips. eg, plastic bags inside shoes. That's a matter of ignorance, not privilege.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Who handles clearing up the buses and bus depot? Seems duh enough but people don't seem to realize if those buses can't get out of the depot, um, schools close

Bethesda Bus Depot still has snow on top of buses.

[Anonymous]

Will buses be ready for Tuesday? If today's closure was due to bus transportation and impassable streets, what is being done today?

[Anonymous]

Any photos of the Bethesda bus depot? The Clarksburg one?

[Anonymous]

Howard county went in late today, but several busses were canceled due to not being de-iced, they said. It was communicated very last minute too. They contract bus services out though so they may not have considered that in their plane beyond the contractors saying they were ready.

Hopefully MCPS is de-icing the buses today for tomorrow

[Anonymous]

Anyone drive by either depot?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Anyone drive by either depot?

Did the buses start today?

[Anonymous]

Are bus DRIVERS willing to drive in these conditions?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Are bus DRIVERS willing to drive in these conditions?

You think they don't want to deal with all the other cars driving on the roads?