Recruiting Student Athletes

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Anonymous wrote:DS has been getting recruited for baseball since 6th grade at many of the top programs in the area, both WCAC and independent. Some started recruiting him after seeing him play at a local tournament. Some started after he attended their summer camp. Most good programs have some sort of recruiting coach who keeps an eye out for top MS talent. The only way to guarantee they see your kid is for them to attend one of the schools prospect camps.

He’s been invited to private workouts, personal
invitations to attend summer camps, private tours given by the coach(es) themselves, invites to recruiting nights at football games, etc. A handful of the same kids who play for top travel programs in the area have been getting this same attention. Coaches who really want your kid and are willing to advocate for them with admissions and FA, and will let you know that. They will guide you along the way of the admissions process, get your kid in front of the right people, make sure you have everything in on time, etc.

This is good advice on camps. It’s not like coaches can go out to watch MS players at their travel games with their busy schedule.

I wonder if it makes a difference which travel program the student comes from? Which are considered top for baseball?

You will likely catch a school or two with coaches at most majors PG tournaments at Patriot Park. I’ve seen some at Rockburn too for Elkridge’s tournament.

Regarding travel programs, there are a few strong travel programs in the area. But the quality of each team can vary greatly between age groups. So it’s hard to name a program that’s good top to bottom. Ole Liners has a few good teams, USA Prime, FTB, Mid-Atlantic Red Sox, Mid-Atlantic Canes… I’m sure I’m missing a bunch. But a lot of the top players play for regional or national teams that aren’t based here in DMV.

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Anonymous wrote:We are curious about the private high school recruiting process for student athletes and how we can get our DC exposure to either a football or baseball program? How do student athletes get identified and is there a higher percentage of acceptance if they are being recruited for sports?

If you are recruited to a WCAC school
It’s 100% acceptance unless you score something crazy low in the HPST…like in the 40s.

We reached out to the baseball coach at SJC and he watched a tournament where my son was playing and my son also did the Summer camp for middle schoolers at SJC.

May I ask what your son’s financial package was?

Zero…there are no athletic scholarships and we are very much full pay.

That’s correct they don’t offer athletic scholarships but they absolutely find a way to get kids money depending on how bad they want you whether you need it or not. We know a few kids in the WCAC that don’t qualify for need based aid but because they want a kid, they offer financial assistance.

If financial assistance (i.e. a scholarship) is awarded due to sports performance and isn't need based, that's called an athletic scholarship.

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Anonymous wrote:DS has been getting recruited for baseball since 6th grade at many of the top programs in the area, both WCAC and independent. Some started recruiting him after seeing him play at a local tournament. Some started after he attended their summer camp. Most good programs have some sort of recruiting coach who keeps an eye out for top MS talent. The only way to guarantee they see your kid is for them to attend one of the schools prospect camps.

He’s been invited to private workouts, personal
invitations to attend summer camps, private tours given by the coach(es) themselves, invites to recruiting nights at football games, etc. A handful of the same kids who play for top travel programs in the area have been getting this same attention. Coaches who really want your kid and are willing to advocate for them with admissions and FA, and will let you know that. They will guide you along the way of the admissions process, get your kid in front of the right people, make sure you have everything in on time, etc.

This is good advice on camps. It’s not like coaches can go out to watch MS players at their travel games with their busy schedule.

I wonder if it makes a difference which travel program the student comes from? Which are considered top for baseball?

You will likely catch a school or two with coaches at most majors PG tournaments at Patriot Park. I’ve seen some at Rockburn too for Elkridge’s tournament.

Regarding travel programs, there are a few strong travel programs in the area. But the quality of each team can vary greatly between age groups. So it’s hard to name a program that’s good top to bottom. Ole Liners has a few good teams, USA Prime, FTB, Mid-Atlantic Red Sox, Mid-Atlantic Canes… I’m sure I’m missing a bunch. But a lot of the top players play for regional or national teams that aren’t based here in DMV.

A lot of the top players in the DMV don't play for national teams (not even sure what a regional team may be...Richmond Braves?...but even those teams are mostly local Richmond kids at like 13 or 14 with a couple DMV-area players sprinkled in). I would be shocked if more than 3 kids on all the WCAC rosters played for a national team prior to HS.

That's not to say the top DMV players are generally the best in the country...they are not since no surprise you get tons from FL, GA, TX, CA, AZ and other warm weather states.

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Anonymous wrote:We are curious about the private high school recruiting process for student athletes and how we can get our DC exposure to either a football or baseball program? How do student athletes get identified and is there a higher percentage of acceptance if they are being recruited for sports?

If you are recruited to a WCAC school
It’s 100% acceptance unless you score something crazy low in the HPST…like in the 40s.

We reached out to the baseball coach at SJC and he watched a tournament where my son was playing and my son also did the Summer camp for middle schoolers at SJC.

May I ask what your son’s financial package was?

Zero…there are no athletic scholarships and we are very much full pay.

That’s correct they don’t offer athletic scholarships but they absolutely find a way to get kids money depending on how bad they want you whether you need it or not. We know a few kids in the WCAC that don’t qualify for need based aid but because they want a kid, they offer financial assistance.

If financial assistance (i.e. a scholarship) is awarded due to sports performance and isn't need based, that's called an athletic scholarship.

No. It’s called Financial Aid.

A concept few on here understand. The school can give whatever FA they want for whatever reason.

Financial need is just one thing they look at. This isn’t some government program where they look at a table for the amount applicants get.

It’s their money. There are NO rules that require them to distribute the funds in any way.

If you don’t know what FA is and how it is administered, it’ll remain a mystery to you.

It’s not a poverty program, it’s an enrollment management tool. If they could get a class with all the attributes they want without offering FA, they would.

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Anonymous wrote:We are curious about the private high school recruiting process for student athletes and how we can get our DC exposure to either a football or baseball program? How do student athletes get identified and is there a higher percentage of acceptance if they are being recruited for sports?

If you are recruited to a WCAC school
It’s 100% acceptance unless you score something crazy low in the HPST…like in the 40s.

We reached out to the baseball coach at SJC and he watched a tournament where my son was playing and my son also did the Summer camp for middle schoolers at SJC.

May I ask what your son’s financial package was?

Zero…there are no athletic scholarships and we are very much full pay.

That’s correct they don’t offer athletic scholarships but they absolutely find a way to get kids money depending on how bad they want you whether you need it or not. We know a few kids in the WCAC that don’t qualify for need based aid but because they want a kid, they offer financial assistance.

If financial assistance (i.e. a scholarship) is awarded due to sports performance and isn't need based, that's called an athletic scholarship.

No. It’s called Financial Aid.

A concept few on here understand. The school can give whatever FA they want for whatever reason.

Financial need is just one thing they look at. This isn’t some government program where they look at a table for the amount applicants get.

It’s their money. There are NO rules that require them to distribute the funds in any way.

If you don’t know what FA is and how it is administered, it’ll remain a mystery to you.

It’s not a poverty program, it’s an enrollment management tool. If they could get a class with all the attributes they want without offering FA, they would.

Unless a school is completely crooked (and their conference rivals would absolutely report them)...if you are a BigLaw partner in DC and your kid is legitimately the next Bryce Harper, you aren't receiving a nickel of financial aid. Unlike Stanford where you can be Elon Musk's kid but if your kid is the next Bryce Harper he still attends for free (because they award athletic scholarships).

Now, if you legitimately qualify for say $5,000 based on what they see on paper, then it's easy to start factoring in other "life circumstances" to show that in fact you actually deserve $25,000. You can claim you are caring for your sick parent that needs a FT nurse or all kinds of things...unclear how closely anyone is checking that if again your kid is the next Bryce Harper.

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Anonymous wrote:DS has been getting recruited for baseball since 6th grade at many of the top programs in the area, both WCAC and independent. Some started recruiting him after seeing him play at a local tournament. Some started after he attended their summer camp. Most good programs have some sort of recruiting coach who keeps an eye out for top MS talent. The only way to guarantee they see your kid is for them to attend one of the schools prospect camps.

He’s been invited to private workouts, personal
invitations to attend summer camps, private tours given by the coach(es) themselves, invites to recruiting nights at football games, etc. A handful of the same kids who play for top travel programs in the area have been getting this same attention. Coaches who really want your kid and are willing to advocate for them with admissions and FA, and will let you know that. They will guide you along the way of the admissions process, get your kid in front of the right people, make sure you have everything in on time, etc.

This is good advice on camps. It’s not like coaches can go out to watch MS players at their travel games with their busy schedule.

I wonder if it makes a difference which travel program the student comes from? Which are considered top for baseball?

You will likely catch a school or two with coaches at most majors PG tournaments at Patriot Park. I’ve seen some at Rockburn too for Elkridge’s tournament.

Regarding travel programs, there are a few strong travel programs in the area. But the quality of each team can vary greatly between age groups. So it’s hard to name a program that’s good top to bottom. Ole Liners has a few good teams, USA Prime, FTB, Mid-Atlantic Red Sox, Mid-Atlantic Canes… I’m sure I’m missing a bunch. But a lot of the top players play for regional or national teams that aren’t based here in DMV.

A lot of the top players in the DMV don't play for national teams (not even sure what a regional team may be...Richmond Braves?...but even those teams are mostly local Richmond kids at like 13 or 14 with a couple DMV-area players sprinkled in). I would be shocked if more than 3 kids on all the WCAC rosters played for a national team prior to HS.

That's not to say the top DMV players are generally the best in the country...they are not since no surprise you get tons from FL, GA, TX, CA, AZ and other warm weather states.

WCAC isn’t the only conference with good baseball players. I can name five local 29s and 30s playing for national teams whose teams play/played at Beast of the East, National Team Championships, etc. Almost double that if we include 28s. One of the best 28s in the world plays in the MIAA.

I do agree that the DMV isn’t concentrated with top players but there are some very talented players in this area. And many of them don’t play locally very often.

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Anonymous wrote:DS has been getting recruited for baseball since 6th grade at many of the top programs in the area, both WCAC and independent. Some started recruiting him after seeing him play at a local tournament. Some started after he attended their summer camp. Most good programs have some sort of recruiting coach who keeps an eye out for top MS talent. The only way to guarantee they see your kid is for them to attend one of the schools prospect camps.

He’s been invited to private workouts, personal
invitations to attend summer camps, private tours given by the coach(es) themselves, invites to recruiting nights at football games, etc. A handful of the same kids who play for top travel programs in the area have been getting this same attention. Coaches who really want your kid and are willing to advocate for them with admissions and FA, and will let you know that. They will guide you along the way of the admissions process, get your kid in front of the right people, make sure you have everything in on time, etc.

This is good advice on camps. It’s not like coaches can go out to watch MS players at their travel games with their busy schedule.

I wonder if it makes a difference which travel program the student comes from? Which are considered top for baseball?

You will likely catch a school or two with coaches at most majors PG tournaments at Patriot Park. I’ve seen some at Rockburn too for Elkridge’s tournament.

Regarding travel programs, there are a few strong travel programs in the area. But the quality of each team can vary greatly between age groups. So it’s hard to name a program that’s good top to bottom. Ole Liners has a few good teams, USA Prime, FTB, Mid-Atlantic Red Sox, Mid-Atlantic Canes… I’m sure I’m missing a bunch. But a lot of the top players play for regional or national teams that aren’t based here in DMV.

A lot of the top players in the DMV don't play for national teams (not even sure what a regional team may be...Richmond Braves?...but even those teams are mostly local Richmond kids at like 13 or 14 with a couple DMV-area players sprinkled in). I would be shocked if more than 3 kids on all the WCAC rosters played for a national team prior to HS.

That's not to say the top DMV players are generally the best in the country...they are not since no surprise you get tons from FL, GA, TX, CA, AZ and other warm weather states.

WCAC isn’t the only conference with good baseball players. I can name five local 29s and 30s playing for national teams whose teams play/played at Beast of the East, National Team Championships, etc. Almost double that if we include 28s. One of the best 28s in the world plays in the MIAA.

I do agree that the DMV isn’t concentrated with top players but there are some very talented players in this area. And many of them don’t play locally very often.

OK...but even Bryce Eldridge who is probably the best player to come out of the DMV in a long time (at 14 he certainly was...I don't know where James Wood ranked at 14) just played for the Stars program for the most part when he was 14. He was invited to play at the national PG showcase events and eventually invited to play on the 18u Worlds team.

28s are HS Sophomores and 29s are HS Frosh...I thought we were talking about class of 2030 or 31 (kids getting recruited for HS). I get that HS is a completely different animal and you get more playing for national teams.

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Anonymous wrote:DS has been getting recruited for baseball since 6th grade at many of the top programs in the area, both WCAC and independent. Some started recruiting him after seeing him play at a local tournament. Some started after he attended their summer camp. Most good programs have some sort of recruiting coach who keeps an eye out for top MS talent. The only way to guarantee they see your kid is for them to attend one of the schools prospect camps.

He’s been invited to private workouts, personal
invitations to attend summer camps, private tours given by the coach(es) themselves, invites to recruiting nights at football games, etc. A handful of the same kids who play for top travel programs in the area have been getting this same attention. Coaches who really want your kid and are willing to advocate for them with admissions and FA, and will let you know that. They will guide you along the way of the admissions process, get your kid in front of the right people, make sure you have everything in on time, etc.

This is good advice on camps. It’s not like coaches can go out to watch MS players at their travel games with their busy schedule.

I wonder if it makes a difference which travel program the student comes from? Which are considered top for baseball?

You will likely catch a school or two with coaches at most majors PG tournaments at Patriot Park. I’ve seen some at Rockburn too for Elkridge’s tournament.

Regarding travel programs, there are a few strong travel programs in the area. But the quality of each team can vary greatly between age groups. So it’s hard to name a program that’s good top to bottom. Ole Liners has a few good teams, USA Prime, FTB, Mid-Atlantic Red Sox, Mid-Atlantic Canes… I’m sure I’m missing a bunch. But a lot of the top players play for regional or national teams that aren’t based here in DMV.

A lot of the top players in the DMV don't play for national teams (not even sure what a regional team may be...Richmond Braves?...but even those teams are mostly local Richmond kids at like 13 or 14 with a couple DMV-area players sprinkled in). I would be shocked if more than 3 kids on all the WCAC rosters played for a national team prior to HS.

That's not to say the top DMV players are generally the best in the country...they are not since no surprise you get tons from FL, GA, TX, CA, AZ and other warm weather states.

WCAC isn’t the only conference with good baseball players. I can name five local 29s and 30s playing for national teams whose teams play/played at Beast of the East, National Team Championships, etc. Almost double that if we include 28s. One of the best 28s in the world plays in the MIAA.

I do agree that the DMV isn’t concentrated with top players but there are some very talented players in this area. And many of them don’t play locally very often.

How are they local then? If you look at the 1st round MLB draft picks, they all played for their local HSs. The three kids who played for Corona, Ethan Halliday and Eli Willits played for their OK HSs, etc.

This isn't soccer where the best kids go to Academy systems at like 12 and never play for their local HSs.

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Anonymous wrote:DS has been getting recruited for baseball since 6th grade at many of the top programs in the area, both WCAC and independent. Some started recruiting him after seeing him play at a local tournament. Some started after he attended their summer camp. Most good programs have some sort of recruiting coach who keeps an eye out for top MS talent. The only way to guarantee they see your kid is for them to attend one of the schools prospect camps.

He’s been invited to private workouts, personal
invitations to attend summer camps, private tours given by the coach(es) themselves, invites to recruiting nights at football games, etc. A handful of the same kids who play for top travel programs in the area have been getting this same attention. Coaches who really want your kid and are willing to advocate for them with admissions and FA, and will let you know that. They will guide you along the way of the admissions process, get your kid in front of the right people, make sure you have everything in on time, etc.

This is good advice on camps. It’s not like coaches can go out to watch MS players at their travel games with their busy schedule.

I wonder if it makes a difference which travel program the student comes from? Which are considered top for baseball?

You will likely catch a school or two with coaches at most majors PG tournaments at Patriot Park. I’ve seen some at Rockburn too for Elkridge’s tournament.

Regarding travel programs, there are a few strong travel programs in the area. But the quality of each team can vary greatly between age groups. So it’s hard to name a program that’s good top to bottom. Ole Liners has a few good teams, USA Prime, FTB, Mid-Atlantic Red Sox, Mid-Atlantic Canes… I’m sure I’m missing a bunch. But a lot of the top players play for regional or national teams that aren’t based here in DMV.

A lot of the top players in the DMV don't play for national teams (not even sure what a regional team may be...Richmond Braves?...but even those teams are mostly local Richmond kids at like 13 or 14 with a couple DMV-area players sprinkled in). I would be shocked if more than 3 kids on all the WCAC rosters played for a national team prior to HS.

That's not to say the top DMV players are generally the best in the country...they are not since no surprise you get tons from FL, GA, TX, CA, AZ and other warm weather states.

WCAC isn’t the only conference with good baseball players. I can name five local 29s and 30s playing for national teams whose teams play/played at Beast of the East, National Team Championships, etc. Almost double that if we include 28s. One of the best 28s in the world plays in the MIAA.

I do agree that the DMV isn’t concentrated with top players but there are some very talented players in this area. And many of them don’t play locally very often.

OK...but even Bryce Eldridge who is probably the best player to come out of the DMV in a long time (at 14 he certainly was...I don't know where James Wood ranked at 14) just played for the Stars program for the most part when he was 14. He was invited to play at the national PG showcase events and eventually invited to play on the 18u Worlds team.

28s are HS Sophomores and 29s are HS Frosh...I thought we were talking about class of 2030 or 31 (kids getting recruited for HS). I get that HS is a completely different animal and you get more playing for national teams.

Agreed. Was pointing out that I know of 28s and 29s who played on national teams before going to HS.

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Anonymous wrote:DS has been getting recruited for baseball since 6th grade at many of the top programs in the area, both WCAC and independent. Some started recruiting him after seeing him play at a local tournament. Some started after he attended their summer camp. Most good programs have some sort of recruiting coach who keeps an eye out for top MS talent. The only way to guarantee they see your kid is for them to attend one of the schools prospect camps.

He’s been invited to private workouts, personal
invitations to attend summer camps, private tours given by the coach(es) themselves, invites to recruiting nights at football games, etc. A handful of the same kids who play for top travel programs in the area have been getting this same attention. Coaches who really want your kid and are willing to advocate for them with admissions and FA, and will let you know that. They will guide you along the way of the admissions process, get your kid in front of the right people, make sure you have everything in on time, etc.

This is good advice on camps. It’s not like coaches can go out to watch MS players at their travel games with their busy schedule.

I wonder if it makes a difference which travel program the student comes from? Which are considered top for baseball?

You will likely catch a school or two with coaches at most majors PG tournaments at Patriot Park. I’ve seen some at Rockburn too for Elkridge’s tournament.

Regarding travel programs, there are a few strong travel programs in the area. But the quality of each team can vary greatly between age groups. So it’s hard to name a program that’s good top to bottom. Ole Liners has a few good teams, USA Prime, FTB, Mid-Atlantic Red Sox, Mid-Atlantic Canes… I’m sure I’m missing a bunch. But a lot of the top players play for regional or national teams that aren’t based here in DMV.

A lot of the top players in the DMV don't play for national teams (not even sure what a regional team may be...Richmond Braves?...but even those teams are mostly local Richmond kids at like 13 or 14 with a couple DMV-area players sprinkled in). I would be shocked if more than 3 kids on all the WCAC rosters played for a national team prior to HS.

That's not to say the top DMV players are generally the best in the country...they are not since no surprise you get tons from FL, GA, TX, CA, AZ and other warm weather states.

WCAC isn’t the only conference with good baseball players. I can name five local 29s and 30s playing for national teams whose teams play/played at Beast of the East, National Team Championships, etc. Almost double that if we include 28s. One of the best 28s in the world plays in the MIAA.

I do agree that the DMV isn’t concentrated with top players but there are some very talented players in this area. And many of them don’t play locally very often.

How are they local then? If you look at the 1st round MLB draft picks, they all played for their local HSs. The three kids who played for Corona, Ethan Halliday and Eli Willits played for their OK HSs, etc.

This isn't soccer where the best kids go to Academy systems at like 12 and never play for their local HSs.

I was referring to top MS kids playing with their travel teams. Also, the school baseball landscape is very different in different regions across the country. Even just comparing MD, where most top players go to private school, vs VA where most go to public school.

And baseball academies for HS are absolutely a thing now. And not just IMG.

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Anonymous wrote:DS has been getting recruited for baseball since 6th grade at many of the top programs in the area, both WCAC and independent. Some started recruiting him after seeing him play at a local tournament. Some started after he attended their summer camp. Most good programs have some sort of recruiting coach who keeps an eye out for top MS talent. The only way to guarantee they see your kid is for them to attend one of the schools prospect camps.

He’s been invited to private workouts, personal
invitations to attend summer camps, private tours given by the coach(es) themselves, invites to recruiting nights at football games, etc. A handful of the same kids who play for top travel programs in the area have been getting this same attention. Coaches who really want your kid and are willing to advocate for them with admissions and FA, and will let you know that. They will guide you along the way of the admissions process, get your kid in front of the right people, make sure you have everything in on time, etc.

This is good advice on camps. It’s not like coaches can go out to watch MS players at their travel games with their busy schedule.

I wonder if it makes a difference which travel program the student comes from? Which are considered top for baseball?

You will likely catch a school or two with coaches at most majors PG tournaments at Patriot Park. I’ve seen some at Rockburn too for Elkridge’s tournament.

Regarding travel programs, there are a few strong travel programs in the area. But the quality of each team can vary greatly between age groups. So it’s hard to name a program that’s good top to bottom. Ole Liners has a few good teams, USA Prime, FTB, Mid-Atlantic Red Sox, Mid-Atlantic Canes… I’m sure I’m missing a bunch. But a lot of the top players play for regional or national teams that aren’t based here in DMV.

A lot of the top players in the DMV don't play for national teams (not even sure what a regional team may be...Richmond Braves?...but even those teams are mostly local Richmond kids at like 13 or 14 with a couple DMV-area players sprinkled in). I would be shocked if more than 3 kids on all the WCAC rosters played for a national team prior to HS.

That's not to say the top DMV players are generally the best in the country...they are not since no surprise you get tons from FL, GA, TX, CA, AZ and other warm weather states.

WCAC isn’t the only conference with good baseball players. I can name five local 29s and 30s playing for national teams whose teams play/played at Beast of the East, National Team Championships, etc. Almost double that if we include 28s. One of the best 28s in the world plays in the MIAA.

I do agree that the DMV isn’t concentrated with top players but there are some very talented players in this area. And many of them don’t play locally very often.

Using your numbers, that means that maybe there are 5 kids in the entire DMV (stretching from Baltimore down to call 1/2 way to Richmond) in any given recruiting year playing for a national travel team. Some will pick Spalding or Carroll or wherever probably because those are closer...some will pick Madison or Gainesville because they are in-bounds and those are great public school programs...and one or two will pick a WCAC school.

That still means private schools are finding 99% of their recruits from primarily local teams.

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Anonymous wrote:We are curious about the private high school recruiting process for student athletes and how we can get our DC exposure to either a football or baseball program? How do student athletes get identified and is there a higher percentage of acceptance if they are being recruited for sports?

If you are recruited to a WCAC school
It’s 100% acceptance unless you score something crazy low in the HPST…like in the 40s.

We reached out to the baseball coach at SJC and he watched a tournament where my son was playing and my son also did the Summer camp for middle schoolers at SJC.

May I ask what your son’s financial package was?

Zero…there are no athletic scholarships and we are very much full pay.

That’s correct they don’t offer athletic scholarships but they absolutely find a way to get kids money depending on how bad they want you whether you need it or not. We know a few kids in the WCAC that don’t qualify for need based aid but because they want a kid, they offer financial assistance.

If financial assistance (i.e. a scholarship) is awarded due to sports performance and isn't need based, that's called an athletic scholarship.

No. It’s called Financial Aid.

A concept few on here understand. The school can give whatever FA they want for whatever reason.

Financial need is just one thing they look at. This isn’t some government program where they look at a table for the amount applicants get.

It’s their money. There are NO rules that require them to distribute the funds in any way.

If you don’t know what FA is and how it is administered, it’ll remain a mystery to you.

It’s not a poverty program, it’s an enrollment management tool. If they could get a class with all the attributes they want without offering FA, they would.

Unless a school is completely crooked (and their conference rivals would absolutely report them)...if you are a BigLaw partner in DC and your kid is legitimately the next Bryce Harper, you aren't receiving a nickel of financial aid. Unlike Stanford where you can be Elon Musk's kid but if your kid is the next Bryce Harper he still attends for free (because they award athletic scholarships).

Now, if you legitimately qualify for say $5,000 based on what they see on paper, then it's easy to start factoring in other "life circumstances" to show that in fact you actually deserve $25,000. You can claim you are caring for your sick parent that needs a FT nurse or all kinds of things...unclear how closely anyone is checking that if again your kid is the next Bryce Harper.

You really don’t understand how FA works here. FA is a tool in the Admissions process. The basis for awards is both quantitative and subjective. It’s the subjective part that seems to be escaping you.

Citing extreme cases, like you have, shows you don’t get how it works. The overwhelming majority of FA recipients get 1/4th or 1/3rd of tuition reduction. Very, very few get 75%+.And a lot that do get these big packages are outstanding athletes who without the FA wouldn’t be able to attend. They are also sometimes outstanding students or bring other things to the party.

Have there been FA awards to very good athletes whose family has the resources to send them? A few, where the family has leverage or are good at manipulating the system. But that’s extremely rare.

Are these relatively large FA awards “athletic scholarships”. I guess some would say so. (If it walks like a duck…) But technically they are not.

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Anonymous wrote:DS has been getting recruited for baseball since 6th grade at many of the top programs in the area, both WCAC and independent. Some started recruiting him after seeing him play at a local tournament. Some started after he attended their summer camp. Most good programs have some sort of recruiting coach who keeps an eye out for top MS talent. The only way to guarantee they see your kid is for them to attend one of the schools prospect camps.

He’s been invited to private workouts, personal
invitations to attend summer camps, private tours given by the coach(es) themselves, invites to recruiting nights at football games, etc. A handful of the same kids who play for top travel programs in the area have been getting this same attention. Coaches who really want your kid and are willing to advocate for them with admissions and FA, and will let you know that. They will guide you along the way of the admissions process, get your kid in front of the right people, make sure you have everything in on time, etc.

This is good advice on camps. It’s not like coaches can go out to watch MS players at their travel games with their busy schedule.

I wonder if it makes a difference which travel program the student comes from? Which are considered top for baseball?

You will likely catch a school or two with coaches at most majors PG tournaments at Patriot Park. I’ve seen some at Rockburn too for Elkridge’s tournament.

Regarding travel programs, there are a few strong travel programs in the area. But the quality of each team can vary greatly between age groups. So it’s hard to name a program that’s good top to bottom. Ole Liners has a few good teams, USA Prime, FTB, Mid-Atlantic Red Sox, Mid-Atlantic Canes… I’m sure I’m missing a bunch. But a lot of the top players play for regional or national teams that aren’t based here in DMV.

A lot of the top players in the DMV don't play for national teams (not even sure what a regional team may be...Richmond Braves?...but even those teams are mostly local Richmond kids at like 13 or 14 with a couple DMV-area players sprinkled in). I would be shocked if more than 3 kids on all the WCAC rosters played for a national team prior to HS.

That's not to say the top DMV players are generally the best in the country...they are not since no surprise you get tons from FL, GA, TX, CA, AZ and other warm weather states.

WCAC isn’t the only conference with good baseball players. I can name five local 29s and 30s playing for national teams whose teams play/played at Beast of the East, National Team Championships, etc. Almost double that if we include 28s. One of the best 28s in the world plays in the MIAA.

I do agree that the DMV isn’t concentrated with top players but there are some very talented players in this area. And many of them don’t play locally very often.

Using your numbers, that means that maybe there are 5 kids in the entire DMV (stretching from Baltimore down to call 1/2 way to Richmond) in any given recruiting year playing for a national travel team. Some will pick Spalding or Carroll or wherever probably because those are closer...some will pick Madison or Gainesville because they are in-bounds and those are great public school programs...and one or two will pick a WCAC school.

That still means private schools are finding 99% of their recruits from primarily local teams.

I don’t disagree. My only point was that the TOP 7th and 8th graders in the area tend to play for national teams or at least for teams that play a national schedule.

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Anonymous wrote:We are curious about the private high school recruiting process for student athletes and how we can get our DC exposure to either a football or baseball program? How do student athletes get identified and is there a higher percentage of acceptance if they are being recruited for sports?

If you are recruited to a WCAC school
It’s 100% acceptance unless you score something crazy low in the HPST…like in the 40s.

We reached out to the baseball coach at SJC and he watched a tournament where my son was playing and my son also did the Summer camp for middle schoolers at SJC.

May I ask what your son’s financial package was?

Zero…there are no athletic scholarships and we are very much full pay.

That’s correct they don’t offer athletic scholarships but they absolutely find a way to get kids money depending on how bad they want you whether you need it or not. We know a few kids in the WCAC that don’t qualify for need based aid but because they want a kid, they offer financial assistance.

If financial assistance (i.e. a scholarship) is awarded due to sports performance and isn't need based, that's called an athletic scholarship.

No. It’s called Financial Aid.

A concept few on here understand. The school can give whatever FA they want for whatever reason.

Financial need is just one thing they look at. This isn’t some government program where they look at a table for the amount applicants get.

It’s their money. There are NO rules that require them to distribute the funds in any way.

If you don’t know what FA is and how it is administered, it’ll remain a mystery to you.

It’s not a poverty program, it’s an enrollment management tool. If they could get a class with all the attributes they want without offering FA, they would.

Unless a school is completely crooked (and their conference rivals would absolutely report them)...if you are a BigLaw partner in DC and your kid is legitimately the next Bryce Harper, you aren't receiving a nickel of financial aid. Unlike Stanford where you can be Elon Musk's kid but if your kid is the next Bryce Harper he still attends for free (because they award athletic scholarships).

Now, if you legitimately qualify for say $5,000 based on what they see on paper, then it's easy to start factoring in other "life circumstances" to show that in fact you actually deserve $25,000. You can claim you are caring for your sick parent that needs a FT nurse or all kinds of things...unclear how closely anyone is checking that if again your kid is the next Bryce Harper.

You really don’t understand how FA works here. FA is a tool in the Admissions process. The basis for awards is both quantitative and subjective. It’s the subjective part that seems to be escaping you.

Citing extreme cases, like you have, shows you don’t get how it works. The overwhelming majority of FA recipients get 1/4th or 1/3rd of tuition reduction. Very, very few get 75%+.And a lot that do get these big packages are outstanding athletes who without the FA wouldn’t be able to attend. They are also sometimes outstanding students or bring other things to the party.

Have there been FA awards to very good athletes whose family has the resources to send them? A few, where the family has leverage or are good at manipulating the system. But that’s extremely rare.

Are these relatively large FA awards “athletic scholarships”. I guess some would say so. (If it walks like a duck…) But technically they are not.

It's not escaping me. Basically 100% of FA recipients get $$$s because they qualify for $$$s. The athletics gets them accepted probably with stats lower than the average student, and now all accepted students are evaluated for FA for the most part based on their financial circumstances.

I don't know if you are specifically only referring to say a WCAC school now vs. say a Sidwell. At Sidwell, like 25% of kids get FA and the average aid amount is over $40k. I think a fair number get 100%, others get 75%, others 50%, others 25%, etc...to average to the $40k number. If the basketball player comes from a poor family, they will get 100% FA regardless if their grades and SSAT scores perhaps were lower than the average Sidwell student.

I think we are all just making it clear that unlike D1 colleges that award athletic scholarships to everyone with the athletic ability regardless if they are paupers or billionaires, the private DMV schools don't work like this. If you are the next Bryce Harper or Kevin Durant or Patrick Mahomes and your family has money...you pay 100% to attend SJC or Sidwell or Prep or wherever.

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Anonymous wrote:We are curious about the private high school recruiting process for student athletes and how we can get our DC exposure to either a football or baseball program? How do student athletes get identified and is there a higher percentage of acceptance if they are being recruited for sports?

If you are recruited to a WCAC school
It’s 100% acceptance unless you score something crazy low in the HPST…like in the 40s.

We reached out to the baseball coach at SJC and he watched a tournament where my son was playing and my son also did the Summer camp for middle schoolers at SJC.

May I ask what your son’s financial package was?

Zero…there are no athletic scholarships and we are very much full pay.

That’s correct they don’t offer athletic scholarships but they absolutely find a way to get kids money depending on how bad they want you whether you need it or not. We know a few kids in the WCAC that don’t qualify for need based aid but because they want a kid, they offer financial assistance.

If financial assistance (i.e. a scholarship) is awarded due to sports performance and isn't need based, that's called an athletic scholarship.

No. It’s called Financial Aid.

A concept few on here understand. The school can give whatever FA they want for whatever reason.

Financial need is just one thing they look at. This isn’t some government program where they look at a table for the amount applicants get.

It’s their money. There are NO rules that require them to distribute the funds in any way.

If you don’t know what FA is and how it is administered, it’ll remain a mystery to you.

It’s not a poverty program, it’s an enrollment management tool. If they could get a class with all the attributes they want without offering FA, they would.

Unless a school is completely crooked (and their conference rivals would absolutely report them)...if you are a BigLaw partner in DC and your kid is legitimately the next Bryce Harper, you aren't receiving a nickel of financial aid. Unlike Stanford where you can be Elon Musk's kid but if your kid is the next Bryce Harper he still attends for free (because they award athletic scholarships).

Now, if you legitimately qualify for say $5,000 based on what they see on paper, then it's easy to start factoring in other "life circumstances" to show that in fact you actually deserve $25,000. You can claim you are caring for your sick parent that needs a FT nurse or all kinds of things...unclear how closely anyone is checking that if again your kid is the next Bryce Harper.

You really don’t understand how FA works here. FA is a tool in the Admissions process. The basis for awards is both quantitative and subjective. It’s the subjective part that seems to be escaping you.

Citing extreme cases, like you have, shows you don’t get how it works. The overwhelming majority of FA recipients get 1/4th or 1/3rd of tuition reduction. Very, very few get 75%+.And a lot that do get these big packages are outstanding athletes who without the FA wouldn’t be able to attend. They are also sometimes outstanding students or bring other things to the party.

Have there been FA awards to very good athletes whose family has the resources to send them? A few, where the family has leverage or are good at manipulating the system. But that’s extremely rare.

Are these relatively large FA awards “athletic scholarships”. I guess some would say so. (If it walks like a duck…) But technically they are not.

It's not escaping me. Basically 100% of FA recipients get $$$s because they qualify for $$$s. The athletics gets them accepted probably with stats lower than the average student, and now all accepted students are evaluated for FA for the most part based on their financial circumstances.

I don't know if you are specifically only referring to say a WCAC school now vs. say a Sidwell. At Sidwell, like 25% of kids get FA and the average aid amount is over $40k. I think a fair number get 100%, others get 75%, others 50%, others 25%, etc...to average to the $40k number. If the basketball player comes from a poor family, they will get 100% FA regardless if their grades and SSAT scores perhaps were lower than the average Sidwell student.

I think we are all just making it clear that unlike D1 colleges that award athletic scholarships to everyone with the athletic ability regardless if they are paupers or billionaires, the private DMV schools don't work like this. If you are the next Bryce Harper or Kevin Durant or Patrick Mahomes and your family has money...you pay 100% to attend SJC or Sidwell or Prep or wherever.

This is not true. I know a few families who can afford private school, and they were offered 100% because the school wanted the kid for sports. Unfortunately, sports also generate some revenue and help the school's profile. No different than colleges before NIL, they do what they want. I won't name the school or parent, but I know for a fact the family has been offered 100%, and the school has even tried to get the kid to transfer from his current private school, where he also pays nothing.