Nick Reiner’s lawyer quits. Why?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I’d assume “Mr Green” didn’t show up. The lawyer prob thought he could milk the nine-figure estate for a few million bucks. Once he realized the estate wasn’t going to pay…adios.

This!

Yep. I said this in the old thread when people tried to argue that his siblings still loved their troubled brother anyway and would stand by him. Doesn't look like it.

Stand by him?

Why? So he can knife them in their sleep some night after a tiff at a holiday party or when they try to cut off his $$$ recreational drugs?

Yeah, hostage to an addict sounds like a great future.

This is literally what people said in the other thread:
"No one asks for or wants to have severe mental illness related to brain chemistry and neurological wiring. Go visit group homes with kids and adults with the severest manifestations of low cognitive functioning, autism, physical abnomalities, and mental illness. Nick was displaying disturbing behaviors as a very young child, and I'm sure his siblings want him to remain in a restricted environment, prison or otherwise, but will provide needed help and support. It's a heartbreaking situation."

This is clearly said by a parent who enables and coddles their own messed up son. I said the siblings wouldn't stand by him and it looks like they aren't going to help fund his defense if money is the issue.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’d assume “Mr Green” didn’t show up. The lawyer prob thought he could milk the nine-figure estate for a few million bucks. Once he realized the estate wasn’t going to pay…adios.

This!

Yep. I said this in the old thread when people tried to argue that his siblings still loved their troubled brother anyway and would stand by him. Doesn't look like it.

Stand by him?

Why? So he can knife them in their sleep some night after a tiff at a holiday party or when they try to cut off his $$$ recreational drugs?

Yeah, hostage to an addict sounds like a great future.

This is literally what people said in the other thread:
"No one asks for or wants to have severe mental illness related to brain chemistry and neurological wiring. Go visit group homes with kids and adults with the severest manifestations of low cognitive functioning, autism, physical abnomalities, and mental illness. Nick was displaying disturbing behaviors as a very young child, and I'm sure his siblings want him to remain in a restricted environment, prison or otherwise, but will provide needed help and support. It's a heartbreaking situation."

This is clearly said by a parent who enables and coddles their own messed up son. I said the siblings wouldn't stand by him and it looks like they aren't going to help fund his defense if money is the issue.

Soulless ghouls like you scare me more than people addicted to drugs. People addicted to drugs can be rehabilitated. You choose to be evil.

[Anonymous]

There's already a thread on this subject.

https://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/1305729.page

You can't start a new thread with every new piece of information.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’d assume “Mr Green” didn’t show up. The lawyer prob thought he could milk the nine-figure estate for a few million bucks. Once he realized the estate wasn’t going to pay…adios.

This!

Yep. I said this in the old thread when people tried to argue that his siblings still loved their troubled brother anyway and would stand by him. Doesn't look like it.

Stand by him?

Why? So he can knife them in their sleep some night after a tiff at a holiday party or when they try to cut off his $$$ recreational drugs?

Yeah, hostage to an addict sounds like a great future.

This is literally what people said in the other thread:
"No one asks for or wants to have severe mental illness related to brain chemistry and neurological wiring. Go visit group homes with kids and adults with the severest manifestations of low cognitive functioning, autism, physical abnomalities, and mental illness. Nick was displaying disturbing behaviors as a very young child, and I'm sure his siblings want him to remain in a restricted environment, prison or otherwise, but will provide needed help and support. It's a heartbreaking situation."

This is clearly said by a parent who enables and coddles their own messed up son. I said the siblings wouldn't stand by him and it looks like they aren't going to help fund his defense if money is the issue.

Soulless ghouls like you scare me more than people addicted to drugs. People addicted to drugs can be rehabilitated. You choose to be evil.

Give it up. The issue is where the siblings stand now, and it's not by their poor brother's side.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’d assume “Mr Green” didn’t show up. The lawyer prob thought he could milk the nine-figure estate for a few million bucks. Once he realized the estate wasn’t going to pay…adios.

This!

Yep. I said this in the old thread when people tried to argue that his siblings still loved their troubled brother anyway and would stand by him. Doesn't look like it.

Stand by him?

Why? So he can knife them in their sleep some night after a tiff at a holiday party or when they try to cut off his $$$ recreational drugs?

Yeah, hostage to an addict sounds like a great future.

Their goal is probably to get him confined to a mental health facility rather than a general prison, where he's more likely to get into fights and hurt himself and others.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’d assume “Mr Green” didn’t show up. The lawyer prob thought he could milk the nine-figure estate for a few million bucks. Once he realized the estate wasn’t going to pay…adios.

This!

Yep. I said this in the old thread when people tried to argue that his siblings still loved their troubled brother anyway and would stand by him. Doesn't look like it.

Stand by him?

Why? So he can knife them in their sleep some night after a tiff at a holiday party or when they try to cut off his $$$ recreational drugs?

Yeah, hostage to an addict sounds like a great future.

Their goal is probably to get him confined to a mental health facility rather than a general prison, where he's more likely to get into fights and hurt himself and others.

Why do you suspect they have any goal with regards to the brother who destroyed their life? People will cut off family based on how they vote yet somehow you think cutting this brother off isn't possible?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’d assume “Mr Green” didn’t show up. The lawyer prob thought he could milk the nine-figure estate for a few million bucks. Once he realized the estate wasn’t going to pay…adios.

This!

Yep. I said this in the old thread when people tried to argue that his siblings still loved their troubled brother anyway and would stand by him. Doesn't look like it.

Stand by him?

Why? So he can knife them in their sleep some night after a tiff at a holiday party or when they try to cut off his $$$ recreational drugs?

Yeah, hostage to an addict sounds like a great future.

Their goal is probably to get him confined to a mental health facility rather than a general prison, where he's more likely to get into fights and hurt himself and others.

Why do you suspect they have any goal with regards to the brother who destroyed their life? People will cut off family based on how they vote yet somehow you think cutting this brother off isn't possible?

Because I've worked in this field and seen people who were physically attacked by their own family member attempt to get them help.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’d assume “Mr Green” didn’t show up. The lawyer prob thought he could milk the nine-figure estate for a few million bucks. Once he realized the estate wasn’t going to pay…adios.

This!

Yep. I said this in the old thread when people tried to argue that his siblings still loved their troubled brother anyway and would stand by him. Doesn't look like it.

Stand by him?

Why? So he can knife them in their sleep some night after a tiff at a holiday party or when they try to cut off his $$$ recreational drugs?

Yeah, hostage to an addict sounds like a great future.

Their goal is probably to get him confined to a mental health facility rather than a general prison, where he's more likely to get into fights and hurt himself and others.

Why do you suspect they have any goal with regards to the brother who destroyed their life? People will cut off family based on how they vote yet somehow you think cutting this brother off isn't possible?

Because I've worked in this field and seen people who were physically attacked by their own family member attempt to get them help.

If they aren't going to help his defense they are willing to let the chips fall where they will. They don't appear to be helping him avoid consequences by using $$$$ lawyers to get him into a mental health facility and out of a general prison.

[Anonymous]

Time has passed and I think this lawyer realized he doesn’t want to be the new Johnnie Cochran, Bob Shapiro, Barry Scheck, Robert Kardashian et al.

They all basically lost their legal reputations and no one refers to them with any reverence today.

This would not be defending an accused “American hero”

This would be taking money to defend someone legitimately accused of murdering a beloved American icon who had never done anyone wrong.

I don’t know this lawyer’s name and he’s fortunate that no one else does, because it would be easy evidence of a total cash grab and he’d lose his entire reputation in the area in which he practices

Better to withdraw and be able to say he withdrew within less than a month after an initial retainer (innocent until proven guilty) and then getting out of that town called Dodge

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Time has passed and I think this lawyer realized he doesn’t want to be the new Johnnie Cochran, Bob Shapiro, Barry Scheck, Robert Kardashian et al.

They all basically lost their legal reputations and no one refers to them with any reverence today.

This would not be defending an accused “American hero”

This would be taking money to defend someone legitimately accused of murdering a beloved American icon who had never done anyone wrong.

I don’t know this lawyer’s name and he’s fortunate that no one else does, because it would be easy evidence of a total cash grab and he’d lose his entire reputation in the area in which he practices

Better to withdraw and be able to say he withdrew within less than a month after an initial retainer (innocent until proven guilty) and then getting out of that town called Dodge

The thing to understand is while there are grandstanding attorneys who seek out media cases, a lot of the time attorneys don't conceptualize it that way. It's not about believing someone is innocent, it's about providing diligent representation, protecting rights and holding the state to their burden. In many courtrooms, prosecutors and public defenders are friendly with each other.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Time has passed and I think this lawyer realized he doesn’t want to be the new Johnnie Cochran, Bob Shapiro, Barry Scheck, Robert Kardashian et al.

They all basically lost their legal reputations and no one refers to them with any reverence today.

This would not be defending an accused “American hero”

This would be taking money to defend someone legitimately accused of murdering a beloved American icon who had never done anyone wrong.

I don’t know this lawyer’s name and he’s fortunate that no one else does, because it would be easy evidence of a total cash grab and he’d lose his entire reputation in the area in which he practices

Better to withdraw and be able to say he withdrew within less than a month after an initial retainer (innocent until proven guilty) and then getting out of that town called Dodge

Alan Jackson is very well known. He was Karen Read’s attorney.

[Anonymous]

I read another article where the lawyer said he’s 100% not guilty. So, not sure why he’d quit or why he’d make such a statement. I think it was on Yahoo.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I read another article where the lawyer said he’s 100% not guilty. So, not sure why he’d quit or why he’d make such a statement. I think it was on Yahoo.

It's probably indicative of his intent to present an insanity defense. If successful, it is a not guilty verdict. And, I think it's widely believed that he wasn't in his right mind. Was it enough to be considered insane? Who knows at this point, but I'm sure we'll get a better picture as time goes on.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I read another article where the lawyer said he’s 100% not guilty. So, not sure why he’d quit or why he’d make such a statement. I think it was on Yahoo.

Money. The lawyer is not being paid. He had no other option than to leave the case.

[Anonymous]

Pages of unfounded speculation and ignorant musings on the nature of criminal defense practice, when the answer is clear from the publicly known facts: He was unable to pay for a private defense attorney, and so one was appointed for him by the state. His prior attorney has an ethical obligation not to damage his case, despite his inability to pay, hence the statement that the client is not guilty. The public defenders are likely extremely capable lawyers. They handle the large majority of murder cases, and capital cases get special resources within the office.