European colleges

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Anonymous wrote:What’s the purpose of enrolling to a European school? Save money on tuition, international exposure?

I wouldn’t do it for the lower tuition alone. If you plan on returning to US after graduation stick to a school that is well known here. Also the economy, youth employment, internship opportunities are much better in US. There’s a reason the net flux of students is from Europe to US.

For international exposure you can do one semester abroad instead.

For dual-passport students, the full cost of tuition for a bachelor’s at a top EU school, with a narrow educational program but sort of American-like classes, might be less than $9,000.

I think employers in places like the DMV and New York are going to have to get used to seeing EU school grads, because the economic pressure on students to go to the EU schools is so intense.

There is nothing to get used to in NYC, Chicago or LA. There are tons of graduates from places like Science Po, Bocconi, etc working in the US. These are strong names that unless you have been leaving under a rock, you understand these are no T50 average US schools….

What would Bocconi be equivalent to in the US?

My guess: NYU Stern. If you're Italian, it's closer to Wharton, but from the US or London, I'd guess it's like Stern.

yes. Agree 100%

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Anonymous wrote:What’s the purpose of enrolling to a European school? Save money on tuition, international exposure?

I wouldn’t do it for the lower tuition alone. If you plan on returning to US after graduation stick to a school that is well known here. Also the economy, youth employment, internship opportunities are much better in US. There’s a reason the net flux of students is from Europe to US.

For international exposure you can do one semester abroad instead.

For dual-passport students, the full cost of tuition for a bachelor’s at a top EU school, with a narrow educational program but sort of American-like classes, might be less than $9,000.

I think employers in places like the DMV and New York are going to have to get used to seeing EU school grads, because the economic pressure on students to go to the EU schools is so intense.

There is nothing to get used to in NYC, Chicago or LA. There are tons of graduates from places like Science Po, Bocconi, etc working in the US. These are strong names that unless you have been leaving under a rock, you understand these are no T50 average US schools….

What would Bocconi be equivalent to in the US?

My guess: NYU Stern. If you're Italian, it's closer to Wharton, but from the US or London, I'd guess it's like Stern.

yes. Agree 100%

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yes but $80k cheaper per year….

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Anonymous wrote:Are any on your kids interested in going to college in Europe or have any of your kids gone to college in Europe? If so how is it going/what were the applications like?
My son wants to go and he has a French citizenship so it would be WAY cheaper and probably good culturally.

If he has French citizenship, then he needs to speak with his French family, who would know. Why is mommy (or daddy) driving this? (And here I thought the helicopter/scaffolding/tiger parents were Asian….or are you Asian and the other parent is French?)

Why are you hovering around this board?

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Anonymous wrote:What’s the purpose of enrolling to a European school? Save money on tuition, international exposure?

I wouldn’t do it for the lower tuition alone. If [/b]you plan on returning to US after graduation stick to a school that is well known here. [b]Also the economy, youth employment, internship opportunities are much better in US. There’s a reason the net flux of students is from Europe to US.

For international exposure you can do one semester abroad instead.

True if DC can get into HSY. But a GMU or Directional State U degree is not more marketable than a rando EU university degree.

Where exactly, on a map, is this EU ?

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Anonymous wrote:What’s the purpose of enrolling to a European school? Save money on tuition, international exposure?

I wouldn’t do it for the lower tuition alone. If [/b]you plan on returning to US after graduation stick to a school that is well known here. [b]Also the economy, youth employment, internship opportunities are much better in US. There’s a reason the net flux of students is from Europe to US.

For international exposure you can do one semester abroad instead.

True if DC can get into HSY. But a GMU or Directional State U degree is not more marketable than a rando EU university degree.

Top 100 US universities are definitely more marketable in US than random EU universities. We’re talking Tulane, UCs, Rochester etc. nobody here knows or cares about Malmo University.

I’d you don’t plan to return to US you’ll be graduating in a low growth economy with high youth unemployment, but 200k less in debt. Do it at your own risk, I don’t think it’s worth it. Salaries in US, internships and job opportunities more than make up for the difference.

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Kid graduated from Exeter….(sure not a random as PP said) and yet, got an amazing internship his last year in the US and is now fully employed at an Investment group in Chicago…..and yes….$150k extra in his pocket vs the US T75 private schools no merit he got accepted too….

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Anonymous wrote:Kid graduated from Exeter….(sure not a random as PP said) and yet, got an amazing internship his last year in the US and is now fully employed at an Investment group in Chicago…..and yes….$150k extra in his pocket vs the US T75 private schools no merit he got accepted too….

Exeter is a good uni. US folks from good UK unis, yes even beyond Oxbridge, have no trouble finding good jobs back in the USA.

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Anonymous wrote:Some Americans we know with EU citizenship have gone to the Netherlands like Maastricht or Utrecht.

The problem with Dutch universities is the housing shortage.

Right now, you can only send a student to a Dutch school if it guarantees access to housing, you can buy an apartment or condo there, or you know people there who will house your kid. Maybe you can be sure of finding housing if you can pay more than 3,000 euros per month rent, but the problem there is dealing with Dutch landlords’ local income rules.

So, the more practical alternative to Dutch schools is English-language programs in Belgium.

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Anonymous wrote:What’s the purpose of enrolling to a European school? Save money on tuition, international exposure?

I wouldn’t do it for the lower tuition alone. If [/b]you plan on returning to US after graduation stick to a school that is well known here. [b]Also the economy, youth employment, internship opportunities are much better in US. There’s a reason the net flux of students is from Europe to US.

For international exposure you can do one semester abroad instead.

True if DC can get into HSY. But a GMU or Directional State U degree is not more marketable than a rando EU university degree.

Top 100 US universities are definitely more marketable in US than random EU universities. We’re talking Tulane, UCs, Rochester etc. nobody here knows or cares about Malmo University.

I’d you don’t plan to return to US you’ll be graduating in a low growth economy with high youth unemployment, but 200k less in debt. Do it at your own risk, I don’t think it’s worth it. Salaries in US, internships and job opportunities more than make up for the difference.

Tulane, yes, Rochester yes.

But do you really think that a North Central Iowa University degree is any more marketable than a Central Madrid University degree?

People who graduate from directional state universities (or the private equivalent) get jobs in spite of their degrees.

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Not Europe, but my oldest is at uni in the UK. A neighbor’s kid is in Spain for university. Both love it.

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Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:What’s the purpose of enrolling to a European school? Save money on tuition, international exposure?

I wouldn’t do it for the lower tuition alone. If [/b]you plan on returning to US after graduation stick to a school that is well known here. [b]Also the economy, youth employment, internship opportunities are much better in US. There’s a reason the net flux of students is from Europe to US.

For international exposure you can do one semester abroad instead.

True if DC can get into HSY. But a GMU or Directional State U degree is not more marketable than a rando EU university degree.

Top 100 US universities are definitely more marketable in US than random EU universities. We’re talking Tulane, UCs, Rochester etc. nobody here knows or cares about Malmo University.

I’d you don’t plan to return to US you’ll be graduating in a low growth economy with high youth unemployment, but 200k less in debt. Do it at your own risk, I don’t think it’s worth it. Salaries in US, internships and job opportunities more than make up for the difference.

Tulane, yes, Rochester yes.

But do you really think that a North Central Iowa University degree is any more marketable than a Central Madrid University degree?

People who graduate from directional state universities (or the private equivalent) get jobs in spite of their degrees.

North Central Iowa University does not exist, but I’d say University of Iowa which is outside of top 100 has more name recognition than Central Madrid University. It also has quite good programs in nursing and engineering and at $12k/year tuition in state is likely a better financial deal too.

Sounds like you didn’t really do your homework.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:What’s the purpose of enrolling to a European school? Save money on tuition, international exposure?

I wouldn’t do it for the lower tuition alone. If you plan on returning to US after graduation stick to a school that is well known here. Also the economy, youth employment, internship opportunities are much better in US. There’s a reason the net flux of students is from Europe to US.

For international exposure you can do one semester abroad instead.

True if DC can get into HSY. But a GMU or Directional State U degree is not more marketable than a rando EU university degree.

Top 100 US universities are definitely more marketable in US than random EU universities. We’re talking Tulane, UCs, Rochester etc. nobody here knows or cares about Malmo University.

I’d you don’t plan to return to US you’ll be graduating in a low growth economy with high youth unemployment, but 200k less in debt. Do it at your own risk, I don’t think it’s worth it. Salaries in US, internships and job opportunities more than make up for the difference.

Tulane, yes, Rochester yes.

But do you really think that a North Central Iowa University degree is any more marketable than a Central Madrid University degree?

People who graduate from directional state universities (or the private equivalent) get jobs in spite of their degrees.

North Central Iowa University[b] does not exist, but I’d say University of Iowa which is outside of top 100 has more name recognition than Central Madrid University. It also has quite good programs in nursing and engineering and at $12k/year tuition in state is likely a better financial deal too.

Sounds like you didn’t really do your homework.

And, you, apparently are a very literal person. Clearly, the PP was being sarcastic

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What’s the purpose of enrolling to a European school? Save money on tuition, international exposure?

I wouldn’t do it for the lower tuition alone. If [/b]you plan on returning to US after graduation stick to a school that is well known here. Also the economy, youth employment, internship opportunities are much better in US. There’s a reason the net flux of students is from Europe to US.

For international exposure you can do one semester abroad instead.

True if DC can get into HSY. But a GMU or Directional State U degree is not more marketable than a rando EU university degree.

Top 100 US universities are definitely more marketable in US than random EU universities. We’re talking Tulane, UCs, Rochester etc. nobody here knows or cares about Malmo University.

I’d you don’t plan to return to US you’ll be graduating in a low growth economy with high youth unemployment, but 200k less in debt. Do it at your own risk, I don’t think it’s worth it. Salaries in US, internships and job opportunities more than make up for the difference.

Tulane, yes, Rochester yes.

But do you really think that a North Central Iowa University degree is any more marketable than a Central Madrid University degree?

People who graduate from [b]directional state universities (or the private equivalent) get jobs in spite of their degrees.

What directional state universities are you talking about in Top 100? Maybe University of Southern Florida or University of Central Florida. They are decent colleges, not sure why you look down on them. Curious to see why you think a US kid should choose a European university over them. It’s a different demography anyways, and we’re not talking about kids choosing between them and Oxford/Cambridge.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What’s the purpose of enrolling to a European school? Save money on tuition, international exposure?

I wouldn’t do it for the lower tuition alone. If [/b]you plan on returning to US after graduation stick to a school that is well known here. Also the economy, youth employment, internship opportunities are much better in US. There’s a reason the net flux of students is from Europe to US.

For international exposure you can do one semester abroad instead.

True if DC can get into HSY. But a GMU or Directional State U degree is not more marketable than a rando EU university degree.

Top 100 US universities are definitely more marketable in US than random EU universities. We’re talking Tulane, UCs, Rochester etc. nobody here knows or cares about Malmo University.

I’d you don’t plan to return to US you’ll be graduating in a low growth economy with high youth unemployment, but 200k less in debt. Do it at your own risk, I don’t think it’s worth it. Salaries in US, internships and job opportunities more than make up for the difference.

Tulane, yes, Rochester yes.

But do you really think that a North Central Iowa University degree is any more marketable than a Central Madrid University degree?

People who graduate from [b]directional state universities (or the private equivalent) get jobs in spite of their degrees.

What directional state universities are you talking about in Top 100? Maybe University of Southern Florida or University of Central Florida. They are decent colleges, not sure why you look down on them. Curious to see why you think a US kid should choose a European university over them. It’s a different demography anyways, and we’re not talking about kids choosing between them and Oxford/Cambridge.

An important point is that kids who attend directional state universities are often working for local employers that recruit at such directional schools.

Unless your kid is an EU citizen, it seems strange to attend a no name European college and then have to look for a job in the US.

Also keep in mind…directional US schools are usually very cheap, so there won’t be any real $$$ savings from attending a no name European college.

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This is difference we saw with our kids…one graduated from an avg well known but not elite flagship state U. (Still a t100) The other graduated from IE in Madrid….The state U kid had opportunities for jobs…but they were all local/regional smaller companies with zero chance to branch out to a bigger well known position in big US cities…. My IE kid had a world of opportunities in front of him. Interned in Switzerland and then Paris and had 3 job offers in 3 different countries and took the one back in the US. He is in NYC now.