Do you think it is easier to get into a top college from public or private?

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Anonymous wrote:I don’t think it’s easy to get into HYPMS from private schools. Outside T5, it becomes easier, especially for T15-T30. Some liberal arts colleges outside SWAP also like to take private school kids.

Private school parent. Are it’s not easier at HYPSM.

For other colleges, yes.
2 kids at Ivy/T10.
3.8uw gpa for both or thereabouts.
One TO. One 34/1520.
Niche interests developed in a small high school that helped them stand out in a large pack.
Youngest in private HS too.

Agree

Same here on private. Doesn't help with HYPSM unless hooked. But ABSOLUTELY it does help with T6-25....

Chicago LOVES private kids.

Right...that Pinecrest post with 9 ED0 from yesterday.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It will depend on the school. Private schools obviously have an advantage bc they choose their students. That’s not the case at public high schools that educate everyone in their district. That’s their mission.

But the top 10-20 percent of students at well resourced public schools like Langley and the Ws do just as well as the elite private school students when it comes to college admissions. And the STEM kids at public schools are usually much stronger than the private school students. Which is no small thing these days.

Do they all get into top20 schools? This is the question. I don't know as I'm a private school parent. At STA and Sidwell they do. 100%.
Do 100% of the top 20% at Langley and the Ws get into top20 schools?

[Anonymous]

Legacies are less than 20 percent of the class at the top Ivies these days. Let’s say they are evenly split between private and public schools, which would mean greater percentage at private schools given how many fewer they are. Numbers are still far too small to account for enrolled classes at Ivies being 35 to 45 percent private school grads.

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If your kid is super smart it does not matter where they go. Cream rises to the top. I think public is better for such kids. However, if you are average or above average then private schools are really good. In my nephew's case, he had a 3.6 gpa at a top NYC private school and got into a top 20 school and some really good SLACs. He is doing very well because the private school gave him a lot of confidence, a good network and focused on all round development versus just a focus on academics.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:It will depend on the school. Private schools obviously have an advantage bc they choose their students. That’s not the case at public high schools that educate everyone in their district. That’s their mission.

But the top 10-20 percent of students at well resourced public schools like Langley and the Ws do just as well as the elite private school students when it comes to college admissions. And the STEM kids at public schools are usually much stronger than the private school students. Which is no small thing these days.

Do they all get into top20 schools? This is the question. I don't know as I'm a private school parent. At STA and Sidwell they do. 100%.
Do 100% of the top 20% at Langley and the Ws get into top20 schools?

Langley has a class of 525 kids. I don’t even need to look at the data to know that there are not 104 kids at Langley each year admitted to a T20 school.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I don’t think it’s easy to get into HYPMS from private schools. Outside T5, it becomes easier, especially for T15-T30. Some liberal arts colleges outside SWAP also like to take private school kids.

Private school parent. Are it’s not easier at HYPSM.

For other colleges, yes.
2 kids at Ivy/T10.
3.8uw gpa for both or thereabouts.
One TO. One 34/1520.
Niche interests developed in a small high school that helped them stand out in a large pack.
Youngest in private HS too.

Agree

Same here on private. Doesn't help with HYPSM unless hooked. But ABSOLUTELY it does help with T6-25....

Chicago LOVES private kids.

Source? Have they published data on private vs. public school kids enrolled?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Fo course it’s easier, at least from the most academically rigorous private schools going to private colleges, especially when you look at admissions on per capita basis. Also disagree with the last poster, my spouse gets sent the results for our region as an interviewer for one of Y/P/H/S and the private schools do better.

For large public colleges, probably a wash.

Because of legacies. And there's nothing more annoying than an Ivy alumni interviewer. They can't get over their "glory days" and it's pretty pathetic.

Also, it's obvious you're not posting from the DMV and don't know anything about Langley High School.

All of this is false, and you are clearly triggered. Perhaps step away until you can participate in a rational, as opposed to crazy emotional, manner.

Are you posting from the DMV or not?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Fo course it’s easier, at least from the most academically rigorous private schools going to private colleges, especially when you look at admissions on per capita basis. Also disagree with the last poster, my spouse gets sent the results for our region as an interviewer for one of Y/P/H/S and the private schools do better.

For large public colleges, probably a wash.

Because of legacies. And there's nothing more annoying than an Ivy alumni interviewer. They can't get over their "glory days" and it's pretty pathetic.

Also, it's obvious you're not posting from the DMV and don't know anything about Langley High School.

All of this is false, and you are clearly triggered. Perhaps step away until you can participate in a rational, as opposed to crazy emotional, manner.

Are you posting from the DMV or not?

Yes, I am in the DMV.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:It will depend on the school. Private schools obviously have an advantage bc they choose their students. That’s not the case at public high schools that educate everyone in their district. That’s their mission.

But the top 10-20 percent of students at well resourced public schools like Langley and the Ws do just as well as the elite private school students when it comes to college admissions. And the STEM kids at public schools are usually much stronger than the private school students. Which is no small thing these days.

Do they all get into top20 schools? This is the question. I don't know as I'm a private school parent. At STA and Sidwell they do. 100%.
Do 100% of the top 20% at Langley and the Ws get into top20 schools?

Langley has a class of 525 kids. I don’t even need to look at the data to know that there are not 104 kids at Langley each year admitted to a T20 school.

Because you don't have access to the data, for one thing. But this much is obvious: dozens of Langley students get admitted to UVA every year, and virtually all of them could likely be admitted to a top 20 as well.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Legacies are less than 20 percent of the class at the top Ivies these days. Let’s say they are evenly split between private and public schools, which would mean greater percentage at private schools given how many fewer they are. Numbers are still far too small to account for enrolled classes at Ivies being 35 to 45 percent private school grads.

But you're conflating legacy preferences with other types of preferences private school students are more likely to have. Private schools may have a higher % of legacy applicants (and again there's no data), but they will have more "development admits" (aka super rich kids getting a preference because parents are likely to be big donors) and higher enrollment in rich kid sports (water polo, crew etc.) that aren't common at public schools. Plus private school kids are more likely to have greater outside support in terms of college admissions counselors, academic tutors, pay to play summer programs etc.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Fo course it’s easier, at least from the most academically rigorous private schools going to private colleges, especially when you look at admissions on per capita basis. Also disagree with the last poster, my spouse gets sent the results for our region as an interviewer for one of Y/P/H/S and the private schools do better.

For large public colleges, probably a wash.

Because of legacies. And there's nothing more annoying than an Ivy alumni interviewer. They can't get over their "glory days" and it's pretty pathetic.

Also, it's obvious you're not posting from the DMV and don't know anything about Langley High School.

All of this is false, and you are clearly triggered. Perhaps step away until you can participate in a rational, as opposed to crazy emotional, manner.

Are you posting from the DMV or not?

Yes, I am in the DMV.

And you and your husband now parse the limited data from the "glory days" college that your husband attended years ago and make broad generalizations from it.

Got it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Legacies are less than 20 percent of the class at the top Ivies these days. Let’s say they are evenly split between private and public schools, which would mean greater percentage at private schools given how many fewer they are. Numbers are still far too small to account for enrolled classes at Ivies being 35 to 45 percent private school grads.

Again, you're not controlling for the number of kids from private versus public who are actually applying to these schools. Which brings me again to the podunk public school in Nebraska . . .

Or, even closer to home, public schools in the DMV. Even at the best of them, it's pretty clear that a far lower percentage of them are applying to Ivies than the privates.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:It will depend on the school. Private schools obviously have an advantage bc they choose their students. That’s not the case at public high schools that educate everyone in their district. That’s their mission.

But the top 10-20 percent of students at well resourced public schools like Langley and the Ws do just as well as the elite private school students when it comes to college admissions. And the STEM kids at public schools are usually much stronger than the private school students. Which is no small thing these days.

Do they all get into top20 schools? This is the question. I don't know as I'm a private school parent. At STA and Sidwell they do. 100%.
Do 100% of the top 20% at Langley and the Ws get into top20 schools?

Langley has a class of 525 kids. I don’t even need to look at the data to know that there are not 104 kids at Langley each year admitted to a T20 school.

Correct. I put two kids through Langley. It is not even close to that number. But it is a ridiculous comparison. St. Albans might have 70 kids in a grade at a school with selective admissions. Top 10-20 percent is 7-14 kids. Sure they can get those kids into top schools. Do you have any reason to believe a) your kid is going to get into St. Albans and b) be one of the top 10-14 kids in their class? Odd of that are probably lower than your odds of getting into a T20 from a public school.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It will depend on the school. Private schools obviously have an advantage bc they choose their students. That’s not the case at public high schools that educate everyone in their district. That’s their mission.

But the top 10-20 percent of students at well resourced public schools like Langley and the Ws do just as well as the elite private school students when it comes to college admissions. And the STEM kids at public schools are usually much stronger than the private school students. Which is no small thing these days.

Your first point is important. You should really be looking at the outcomes for the top 10-20% of public students vs. private school students as your comparison. I don't have an answer on the outcomes, but this would be the comparison to do.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Fo course it’s easier, at least from the most academically rigorous private schools going to private colleges, especially when you look at admissions on per capita basis. Also disagree with the last poster, my spouse gets sent the results for our region as an interviewer for one of Y/P/H/S and the private schools do better.

For large public colleges, probably a wash.

Because of legacies. And there's nothing more annoying than an Ivy alumni interviewer. They can't get over their "glory days" and it's pretty pathetic.

Also, it's obvious you're not posting from the DMV and don't know anything about Langley High School.

All of this is false, and you are clearly triggered. Perhaps step away until you can participate in a rational, as opposed to crazy emotional, manner.

Are you posting from the DMV or not?

Yes, I am in the DMV.

And you and your husband now parse the limited data from the "glory days" college that your husband attended years ago and make broad generalizations from it.

Got it.

Says the person whose offered zero data, but plenty of hostility and rudeness.