People who defend the Tech Oligarchs

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:I don't know why I should care if someone grew up rich or upper middle class. I grew up poor; it doesn't make me more noble or give me special insight into how the world "really works." Being poor gives you a perspective, being rich gives you another perspective. Both are reflections of reality.

Good on Elon for trying to advance the world through solar, EVs, and space exploration. You don't like him because he's rich. You don't like poor people if they are white. None of this makes any sense to me.


He is only into space exploration; he got into EV because he saw a huge gov subsidy he could milk; he doesn’t care about environment as Earth is “disposable”. He got into solar to bail out his cousins business.


Musk, Thiel are all obsessed with longevity and eternal life and don’t care how many peasants they trample on the way
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Yarvin is a total moron. The idea he thinks of himself as a “philosopher” is absurd. He knows nothing of history.


And I hate to be crass but fugly doesn’t do him justice. The photo where they tried to Glamourshot him was beyond laughable.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:I don't know why I should care if someone grew up rich or upper middle class. I grew up poor; it doesn't make me more noble or give me special insight into how the world "really works." Being poor gives you a perspective, being rich gives you another perspective. Both are reflections of reality.

Good on Elon for trying to advance the world through solar, EVs, and space exploration. You don't like him because he's rich. You don't like poor people if they are white. None of this makes any sense to me.


He is only into space exploration; he got into EV because he saw a huge gov subsidy he could milk; he doesn’t care about environment as Earth is “disposable”. He got into solar to bail out his cousins business.


Musk, Thiel are all obsessed with longevity and eternal life and don’t care how many peasants they trample on the way


Musk & Thiel are both aging like the Dorian Gray portrait—sickly and badly as though their low morality were bearing consequence.
Anonymous
It’s all fun and games until their on your side.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:I don't know why I should care if someone grew up rich or upper middle class. I grew up poor; it doesn't make me more noble or give me special insight into how the world "really works." Being poor gives you a perspective, being rich gives you another perspective. Both are reflections of reality.

Good on Elon for trying to advance the world through solar, EVs, and space exploration. You don't like him because he's rich. You don't like poor people if they are white. None of this makes any sense to me.


He is only into space exploration; he got into EV because he saw a huge gov subsidy he could milk; he doesn’t care about environment as Earth is “disposable”. He got into solar to bail out his cousins business.


Musk, Thiel are all obsessed with longevity and eternal life and don’t care how many peasants they trample on the way


So you are fine with his products but wish he had a more altruistic personal philosophy? I mean.... okay. That seems petty. And which peasants are being trampled? They've turned so many people- myself included- into millionaires.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Seems like the country needs to take a page from the Gilded Age when we had similar income inequality and a small group of obscenely wealthy billionaires.

That's when antitrust and other legislation was passed, and it culminated with the US passing an income tax for the first time in 1913.

It seems obvious to implement a wealth tax on all wealth over...take your pick...$1BN, $10BN...something.

I mean, even mere hundred millionaires will support it (as long as they don't think it will go to down to that level). Literally, 99.8% of the population will support it.

At the very list, implement a minimum tax obligation for anyone with a net worth over whatever may be the limit. That you can't claim almost zero income because you own $100BN of stock, receive a $1 salary and you borrow against your stock to fund your daily life (which costs only in the hundred million range annually...at most).


Is it obvious? Not really. At some point, they flee. Look at Maryland.

Maryland’s Wealth Drain

https://montgomeryperspective.com/?s=Wealth+Drain

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I don't think that is white supremacy. I see it as an an inevitable outcome of identity politics. It's the white BLM.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:Seems like the country needs to take a page from the Gilded Age when we had similar income inequality and a small group of obscenely wealthy billionaires.

That's when antitrust and other legislation was passed, and it culminated with the US passing an income tax for the first time in 1913.

It seems obvious to implement a wealth tax on all wealth over...take your pick...$1BN, $10BN...something.

I mean, even mere hundred millionaires will support it (as long as they don't think it will go to down to that level). Literally, 99.8% of the population will support it.

At the very list, implement a minimum tax obligation for anyone with a net worth over whatever may be the limit. That you can't claim almost zero income because you own $100BN of stock, receive a $1 salary and you borrow against your stock to fund your daily life (which costs only in the hundred million range annually...at most).


Is it obvious? Not really. At some point, they flee. Look at Maryland.

Maryland’s Wealth Drain

https://montgomeryperspective.com/?s=Wealth+Drain



Montgomery County is downright antagonistic toward wealthier people. We left in part because all the rhetoric from the MoCo politicians was really quite hostile toward anyone who doesn't survive off welfare.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I don't know why I should care if someone grew up rich or upper middle class. I grew up poor; it doesn't make me more noble or give me special insight into how the world "really works." Being poor gives you a perspective, being rich gives you another perspective. Both are reflections of reality.

Good on Elon for trying to advance the world through solar, EVs, and space exploration. You don't like him because he's rich. You don't like poor people if they are white. None of this makes any sense to me.


He is only into space exploration; he got into EV because he saw a huge gov subsidy he could milk; he doesn’t care about environment as Earth is “disposable”. He got into solar to bail out his cousins business.


Musk, Thiel are all obsessed with longevity and eternal life and don’t care how many peasants they trample on the way


Musk & Thiel are both aging like the Dorian Gray portrait—sickly and badly as though their low morality were bearing consequence.

Horribly grosteque, hideous men inside and out.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Seems like the country needs to take a page from the Gilded Age when we had similar income inequality and a small group of obscenely wealthy billionaires.

That's when antitrust and other legislation was passed, and it culminated with the US passing an income tax for the first time in 1913.

It seems obvious to implement a wealth tax on all wealth over...take your pick...$1BN, $10BN...something.

I mean, even mere hundred millionaires will support it (as long as they don't think it will go to down to that level). Literally, 99.8% of the population will support it.

At the very list, implement a minimum tax obligation for anyone with a net worth over whatever may be the limit. That you can't claim almost zero income because you own $100BN of stock, receive a $1 salary and you borrow against your stock to fund your daily life (which costs only in the hundred million range annually...at most).


Need an estate tax for anything over $10M. Generational wealth is turning the latest batches of trust fund nepo babies into worthless humans. If kids from an extremely wealthy upbringing with the best nutrition and education can't earn a high paying job in 40 adult years then too bad.


That's funny. Bill Gates generational wealth? Bill Gates started Microsoft like anyone else as middle class. He didn't inherit. Elon Musk came to the U.S. with $2,000 to his name.

Jobs and Wozniak started Apple in their garage. They weren't rich.

What the hell are you going on about?



10% of US high schools students attend private school. Bill Gates attended the Lakeside School, a private college-preparatory school in Seattle, Washington.

He was wealthy. Not master of the universe, but have capital from bank of dad and can take a lot more risks than most people.


Bill Gates WAS NOT wealthy.


DP. His dad was a founded partner of a major Seattle law firm. Yes, they were wealthy.
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Anonymous wrote:My personal belief is that the Silicon Valley tycoons are an existential threat to all that is good and decent in humanity. They are a profound menace.



+1 they really don't add any value to humanity. Their products don't improve life in any significant way other than play with people's vanity. They're not finding a cure for deadly diseases, improving education, saving lives, increasing literacy... they're just.... crap. And the oligarchs are rewarded for producing... crap.


They provide tools and infrastructure that do help with curing deadly diseases, improving education, saving lives, increasing literacy.

And they generally seem less evil than finance bros and pharmaceutical companies.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Seems like the country needs to take a page from the Gilded Age when we had similar income inequality and a small group of obscenely wealthy billionaires.

That's when antitrust and other legislation was passed, and it culminated with the US passing an income tax for the first time in 1913.

It seems obvious to implement a wealth tax on all wealth over...take your pick...$1BN, $10BN...something.

I mean, even mere hundred millionaires will support it (as long as they don't think it will go to down to that level). Literally, 99.8% of the population will support it.

At the very list, implement a minimum tax obligation for anyone with a net worth over whatever may be the limit. That you can't claim almost zero income because you own $100BN of stock, receive a $1 salary and you borrow against your stock to fund your daily life (which costs only in the hundred million range annually...at most).


Is it obvious? Not really. At some point, they flee. Look at Maryland.

Maryland’s Wealth Drain

https://montgomeryperspective.com/?s=Wealth+Drain



Montgomery County is downright antagonistic toward wealthier people. We left in part because all the rhetoric from the MoCo politicians was really quite hostile toward anyone who doesn't survive off welfare.


Sounds like a win-win! I'm happy to pay more in taxes to live next to fewer people like you.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:The PP who enumerated the shortcomings of the Democrats and the PP that made claims that some tech billionaires indeed built something out of significantly less wealth failed to address the central point of the OP, which is their influence on politics and government and overall direction of the US and global economic structure.

Taylor Swift is a billionaire. She had wealthy parents. You may or may not like her music. But we are not complaining about Taylor Swift’s wealth because she is not buying politicians, interfering with the electoral system, buying entire media platforms, and orchestrating major mergers, outsourcing/offshoring labor, circular investing into AI, and implementing mass layoffs and setting economic trends that solidify further concentration of wealth. The OP isn’t even about the existence of billionaires, but addressing the issue of half a dozen billionaires essentially manipulating the entire economy and political system.


I'm complaining about Taylor Swift's wealth. No one accumulates a billion dollars without exploiting SO MANY PEOPLE. Also, she flies that damn plane everywhere with no concern for the environment, using publicly funded travel infrastructure for her own personal plane. There are no good billionaires and private planes should be illegal.



While I agree the U.S. should not have billionaires. She has given millions to food banks in this country. I took my daughter to see her because she gave us free tickets through Girl Scouts (they were good seats too!). She also gave her Eras crew large bonuses (like $100k).
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Anonymous wrote:I’ve hated Thiel since he destroyed Gawker. I do think the tide is turning on these types. Does anyone still like Musk? Or Bezos? Or Zuckerberg? They are all so unappealing, they are perfect villains.

Some really bad sh!t on Zuckerberg was just filed in federal court.


Wow anything for a buck!


The best solution is people stop using his products and cost him money. If you know the candy is poisonous, why or why let your kids take handfuls?
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