+1 The ROI for the majority of students is the worst investment they will make. I hope we go back to apprenticeships, which is basically what this is. |
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I think there are two paths that this is taking…one kids straight out of high school and two kids dropping out of college.
In the Bay Area at least, there are some high stat kids that jump directly into full time jobs at various sizes of tech companies. They had connections or were good enough to land an internship, did great at the internship and were offered full time employment, and they didn’t get into any UCs higher than Merced or Riverside despite having incredibly high stats. Despite having OOS or private college acceptances, the cost and/or step down in rank wasn’t appealing. As the job market in tech has gone south, they didn’t want to give up their foot hold in tech. The ones that we know of that have done this have done or are doing community college classes online so that they are ready to transfer into a highly ranked UC as a junior in several years. UCs have lots of older transfer students. I can see why this is a smarter path than going to a lower ranked university for four years, spending hundreds of thousands on it, being away from the tech center and struggling to find a job four years later. |
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The CEO of Palantir is an eccentric individual who marches to the beat of a different drummer. He is very much an independent thinker.
He's not wrong. A college degree in the future may be a nonstarter for some occupations. However, I still believe in college because it helps young minds to learn how to think critically. |
That all depends on if one is ok with working blue collar jobs that are harder on the body than white collar jobs. |
Is this a joke? How many non college grads do you think make it like Gates? |
If Bill Gates took his actual resume and applied to programming jobs under a false name, today, he would not get hired. We all want to launch a successful new company. But if your company is among the 90% that fail, where does that leave you? Submitting thousands of applications on job websites that ask about your college degree. |
+1 agree And I went to a B rated state school. A college education teaches advanced critical thinking skills than just HS and training on the job. |
Tech and coding jobs are hard on the body?! Where do you live? |
More and more these days! Gates Zuckerberg Larry Ellison Richard Branson Oprah Rachel Ray Steve Jobs Walt Disney Elizabeth Holmes (almost) |
Lemme translate for you - college is a fallback for the mediocre. |
| Sure. Take the kids before their frontal cortex has done maturing before they understand ethics and legality of what they are doing. Much easier to manipulate than the "radicalized" kids who usually become more liberal post college education. |
This is not exactly an exhaustive list, and it stands decades. |
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Several things might be true at the same time:
* There are far too many kids going to college * Most colleges are not rigorous at all and these should be avoided * Most kids are going to college for the socialization and credentializing, not to learn * The point of college should be, at least partially, to be a better citizen * Removing core civics and wester civ (ethics) from high school and college was a very bad idea * Using tech bro success as an objective for life is probably not a great idea * Going to a high-quality college and working hard is still a wonderful, valuable experience for maybe 20% of kids |
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Nope
Take the most intelligent high school graduate. Awesome skills, but easily moldable. Easily manipulated by those who are older. You fall for woo more easily. I can see why Palantir and others want them. Not a fate I would want for my kids |
Why? The government is paying for it? |