What do you walk with to protect from other dogs?

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Anonymous wrote:My dog was attacked by an unleashed pitt bull. I now carry a knife and pepper spray.

might not be enough for a Pit

You need a .38

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Anonymous wrote:My dog was attacked by an unleashed pitt bull. I now carry a knife and pepper spray.

might not be enough for a Pit

You need a .38

at the very least

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Anonymous wrote:My dog was attacked by an unleashed pitt bull. I now carry a knife and pepper spray.

might not be enough for a Pit

I would open carry a gun.

Not lawful for handgun (even with a permit) or long gun in DC.

Not lawful for a handgun (even with a permit) or prudent for a long gun in MD.

YMMV in VA.

so conceal carry, legal in MD and DC...

Lawful subject to various and sundry restricted places, with a permit obtained only after spending significant time and money, with more time and money for each all-to-brief renewal, and not available to everyone.

And then the question of effective marksmanship against a fast-moving aggressive animal presumably physically engaged with one’s own animal that would also be moving rapidly.

Partially nonsensical comment - concealed carry is available to all those who are legally able to carry, there are no more restriction to who may obtain a permit. A firearm will still be the most effective way to stop an attack from a large aggressive dog. People mention using knives, you can can shoot very close range and be fairly accurate and its safer then getting close with a knife. It's all about how one feels about this - its a personal choice, but if I was genuinely concerned about being attacked by a large and aggresive animal, this would be my choice.

So a large dog rushes up to you with a scary sounding bark, bark, bark and stops about 4 feet away. He continues to snarl and bark and carry on from about that spot while the owner rushes up to get him. Would you actually draw your firearm and shoot the barking dog?

A large dog with a "scary" sounding bark? What do you mean scary sounding? A large dog rushing someone and barking is a sign of aggression. 4 feet is nothing and if it happened to me I might draw on the dog, that does not I am going to shoot it, but I am sure as shit going to be ready to shoot it if it lunges at me. There are plenty of way to try and deescalate the situation you presented, but it also depend on the breed of dog barking 4 feet away from me. Where did anyone advocate shooting a barking dog? All the firearm advice I have seen here was against an attacking dog.

The original quote in the PP is "if I was genuinely concerned about being attacked by a large and aggresive [sic] animal, this would be my choice." And you say "A large dog rushing someone and barking is a sign of aggression." But I am glad to hear that you would restrain yourself from shooting the dog who is barking ("scary sounding" = loud, deep, menacing, intimidating, etc) at you.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:You should take a long walking stick, either made from wood or steel.

Its been shown that in pit bull attacks, knifing them has no impact, you need to wedge the stick into their mouths to release their jaws.

This is absurd, and likely to result in you getting your arms shredded to the point of death by bleeding out.

A hunting knife like the Ka Bar that Kohberger used to kill those poor kids is exactly what you need to end a pit bull's attack on your dog or some other person. You GUT the dog, with the full intent to disembowel and kill it.

There is no other effective way to get a pit bull to release grip in the frenzy of an actual attack on a person, dog, cat, etc. No matter how sweetly they cuddled with their owners, in that moment they are berserk and there is no prying their jaws open with a stick which might work with dogs not bred for thousands of generations to bite, hold, and never let go no matter the pain inflicted.

A gun isn't a match for a pit bull - as a prosecutor I saw cases where deputies shot marauding pit bulls and they kept marauding - too easy to miss the target and one dog was shot into the breastplate and survived.

Gut the pit bull with a nice big hunting knife. You can wear it in a sheath around your upper thigh, easy to access when pit bull horror is set upon your dog.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:You should take a long walking stick, either made from wood or steel.

Its been shown that in pit bull attacks, knifing them has no impact, you need to wedge the stick into their mouths to release their jaws.

This is absurd, and likely to result in you getting your arms shredded to the point of death by bleeding out.

A hunting knife like the Ka Bar that Kohberger used to kill those poor kids is exactly what you need to end a pit bull's attack on your dog or some other person. You GUT the dog, with the full intent to disembowel and kill it.

There is no other effective way to get a pit bull to release grip in the frenzy of an actual attack on a person, dog, cat, etc. No matter how sweetly they cuddled with their owners, in that moment they are berserk and there is no prying their jaws open with a stick which might work with dogs not bred for thousands of generations to bite, hold, and never let go no matter the pain inflicted.

A gun isn't a match for a pit bull - as a prosecutor I saw cases where deputies shot marauding pit bulls and they kept marauding - too easy to miss the target and one dog was shot into the breastplate and survived.

Gut the pit bull with a nice big hunting knife. You can wear it in a sheath around your upper thigh, easy to access when pit bull horror is set upon your dog.

Wow! That is over the top. I do think you need to add a little more ham and cheese to your writing style, though. It is admirable that you have put in so much effort, but, we must be ENTERTAINED!

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Anonymous wrote:My dog was attacked by an unleashed pitt bull. I now carry a knife and pepper spray.

might not be enough for a Pit

I would open carry a gun.

Not lawful for handgun (even with a permit) or long gun in DC.

Not lawful for a handgun (even with a permit) or prudent for a long gun in MD.

YMMV in VA.

so conceal carry, legal in MD and DC...

Lawful subject to various and sundry restricted places, with a permit obtained only after spending significant time and money, with more time and money for each all-to-brief renewal, and not available to everyone.

And then the question of effective marksmanship against a fast-moving aggressive animal presumably physically engaged with one’s own animal that would also be moving rapidly.

Partially nonsensical comment - concealed carry is available to all those who are legally able to carry, there are no more restriction to who may obtain a permit. A firearm will still be the most effective way to stop an attack from a large aggressive dog. People mention using knives, you can can shoot very close range and be fairly accurate and its safer then getting close with a knife. It's all about how one feels about this - its a personal choice, but if I was genuinely concerned about being attacked by a large and aggresive animal, this would be my choice.

A firearm costs hundreds of dollars. Holsters and accessories are expensive. Training for a carry permit costs hundreds of dollars. Application fees mount up. And the renewals cost hundreds of dollars with training, every couple of years.

Not everybody can afford that. People under 21 can’t get carry permits or lawfully buy a handgun. But poor people and young people are subject to dog attack. So are people who, for one reason or another, cannot possess firearms.

A firearm is not a magic wand. The vital areas on a dog that will achieve an instant stop are small and hard to hit if the animal is standing still. They are much harder to hit if the dog is moving. Any bystanders complicate things further.

I suspect the people who post about “gutting” an attacking dog have never tried it in real life. Knives kill by examination. Cutting open a dog’s belly may kill it eventually, but very likely not immediately.

Beyond avoidance and prevention I think that pepper spray and a stick are probably the best defense against dogs, with a firearm as an option only with substantial practice.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:My dog was attacked by an unleashed pitt bull. I now carry a knife and pepper spray.

According to the experts who have studied & written articles on this topic,pepper spray & bear spray are ineffective at stopping an attacking pit bull. Any knife would have to be very long to be effective.

As ridiculous and as dangerous as it sounds, the experts have determined that the most effective way to help a victim (dog, human, or other animal) from a pit bull attack is to pull the pit bull's tail with great force. Not kidding. Of course, the attacking pit bull will then focus its aggression on the tail puller.

When neighbors adopted a full grown pit bull, their friends refused to come into their house. As I am a well known dog lover, the couple confided in me how foolish their friends were being to which I replied that the only way that I would enter their home was with a cocked 45 calibre hand-gun (although I am not a gun owner).

The couple's two pit bulls got loose one day and went on a killing spree of about 30 animals including a number of beautiful llamas. The couple quickly sold their home & fled back to an adjoining state. The couple's daughter headed the pit bull adoption/rehoming center in our city.

As a life-long dog owner with multiple dogs, I refuse to walk my dogs in public and I especially avoid dog parks due to aggressive dogs and diseases (especially eye diseases). I live on a full acre with strong fences so that my lab mix rescues can run & play without the danger of another dog coming onto our property.

I know pit bull owners who get off on watching their pit bulls attack other dogs.

Troll. ChatGPT probably cooked up this story

And threw in a mauled llama.

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Anonymous wrote:My dog was attacked by an unleashed pitt bull. I now carry a knife and pepper spray.

might not be enough for a Pit

I would open carry a gun.

Not lawful for handgun (even with a permit) or long gun in DC.

Not lawful for a handgun (even with a permit) or prudent for a long gun in MD.

YMMV in VA.

so conceal carry, legal in MD and DC...

Lawful subject to various and sundry restricted places, with a permit obtained only after spending significant time and money, with more time and money for each all-to-brief renewal, and not available to everyone.

And then the question of effective marksmanship against a fast-moving aggressive animal presumably physically engaged with one’s own animal that would also be moving rapidly.

Partially nonsensical comment - concealed carry is available to all those who are legally able to carry, there are no more restriction to who may obtain a permit. A firearm will still be the most effective way to stop an attack from a large aggressive dog. People mention using knives, you can can shoot very close range and be fairly accurate and its safer then getting close with a knife. It's all about how one feels about this - its a personal choice, but if I was genuinely concerned about being attacked by a large and aggresive animal, this would be my choice.

A firearm costs hundreds of dollars. Holsters and accessories are expensive. Training for a carry permit costs hundreds of dollars. Application fees mount up. And the renewals cost hundreds of dollars with training, every couple of years.

Not everybody can afford that. People under 21 can’t get carry permits or lawfully buy a handgun. But poor people and young people are subject to dog attack. So are people who, for one reason or another, cannot possess firearms.

A firearm is not a magic wand. The vital areas on a dog that will achieve an instant stop are small and hard to hit if the animal is standing still. They are much harder to hit if the dog is moving. Any bystanders complicate things further.

I suspect the people who post about “gutting” an attacking dog have never tried it in real life. Knives kill by examination. Cutting open a dog’s belly may kill it eventually, but very likely not immediately.

Beyond avoidance and prevention I think that pepper spray and a stick are probably the best defense against dogs, with a firearm as an option only with substantial practice.

* exsanguination.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:These threads always bring out the pit haters, even if the OP never mentions one. It’s counterproductive, esp the little AI story posted above.

There's a known anti-pit troll on this forum who will derail any thread with anti-pit nonsense. And yes, it's counterproductive. Everybody hates that poster because they keep us from having sane discussions. Totally mental.

Np. That’s not really accurate. There is actually a known pro pit bull poster who lurks here who gets very defensive and accuses everyone of making up lies about Pitts. Most people understand that pitts do not make good pets, and people who live among others are choosing a dog over the safety of their neighbors

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Honestly in your case I would learn to conceal carry, and not hesitate to use it.

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Anonymous wrote:My dog was attacked by an unleashed pitt bull. I now carry a knife and pepper spray.

might not be enough for a Pit

I would open carry a gun.

Not lawful for handgun (even with a permit) or long gun in DC.

Not lawful for a handgun (even with a permit) or prudent for a long gun in MD.

YMMV in VA.

so conceal carry, legal in MD and DC...

Lawful subject to various and sundry restricted places, with a permit obtained only after spending significant time and money, with more time and money for each all-to-brief renewal, and not available to everyone.

And then the question of effective marksmanship against a fast-moving aggressive animal presumably physically engaged with one’s own animal that would also be moving rapidly.

Partially nonsensical comment - concealed carry is available to all those who are legally able to carry, there are no more restriction to who may obtain a permit. A firearm will still be the most effective way to stop an attack from a large aggressive dog. People mention using knives, you can can shoot very close range and be fairly accurate and its safer then getting close with a knife. It's all about how one feels about this - its a personal choice, but if I was genuinely concerned about being attacked by a large and aggresive animal, this would be my choice.

So a large dog rushes up to you with a scary sounding bark, bark, bark and stops about 4 feet away. He continues to snarl and bark and carry on from about that spot while the owner rushes up to get him. Would you actually draw your firearm and shoot the barking dog?

If a dog rushes at me and looks aggressive then yes I’ve already shot it when it’s 4 foot away. No regret whatsoever. 4 foot is nothing. I’m certainly not waiting for it to start actually mauling me before I try to shoot it. I have no legal or moral duty to wait until I’m actively being mauled before starting to defend myself. If you don’t want your dog shot, it should be under your control at all times. Ideally locked in your own yard.

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Anonymous wrote:Move out of the trailer park. I can’t think of any unleashed dog ever approaching my dog because I don’t live a place where dogs roam around.

Are you serious? I live in south Arlington and every morning I can count at least 8 unleashed dogs on the soccer field near my house. True that they are mostly doodles, but they are unleashed and sometimes run up to people and other dogs. My neighbor often lets her doodle off-leash to run. This really upsets me because I've had several very aggressive dogs that I ke;t on a tight leash and I had a hard time controlling them when an off-leash dog ran up to us - which happened every few days.

You are very fortunate to never run into an off-leash dog in a normal UMC neighborhood.

NP. I’m curious about this thread… I live in an UMC neighborhood and don’t mind when people have their dogs off leash for the most part. It’s usually early AM in areas we all congregate, and the dogs love it. I wouldn’t be ‘upset’ if a dog ran up to me or to my dog, and I find that sentiment odd coming from a dog owner. IME dogs are less aggressive off leash. I will admit to not feeling entirely comfortable with pitts. Dh especially does not like our dog being around pitts (and he had a pitt at one time). But a doodle rushing up to us? Nbd

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Anonymous wrote:Move out of the trailer park. I can’t think of any unleashed dog ever approaching my dog because I don’t live a place where dogs roam around.

Are you serious? I live in south Arlington and every morning I can count at least 8 unleashed dogs on the soccer field near my house. True that they are mostly doodles, but they are unleashed and sometimes run up to people and other dogs. My neighbor often lets her doodle off-leash to run. This really upsets me because I've had several very aggressive dogs that I ke;t on a tight leash and I had a hard time controlling them when an off-leash dog ran up to us - which happened every few days.

You are very fortunate to never run into an off-leash dog in a normal UMC neighborhood.

What kind of dog do you have? Curious why this would bother you so much?

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Surprised at all the carry a gun people here.

Guns are for protection from other people, not dogs.

Carry an electric cattle prod for protection from dogs.

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Anonymous wrote:My dog was attacked by an unleashed pitt bull. I now carry a knife and pepper spray.

might not be enough for a Pit

I would open carry a gun.

Not lawful for handgun (even with a permit) or long gun in DC.

Not lawful for a handgun (even with a permit) or prudent for a long gun in MD.

YMMV in VA.

so conceal carry, legal in MD and DC...

Lawful subject to various and sundry restricted places, with a permit obtained only after spending significant time and money, with more time and money for each all-to-brief renewal, and not available to everyone.

And then the question of effective marksmanship against a fast-moving aggressive animal presumably physically engaged with one’s own animal that would also be moving rapidly.

Partially nonsensical comment - concealed carry is available to all those who are legally able to carry, there are no more restriction to who may obtain a permit. A firearm will still be the most effective way to stop an attack from a large aggressive dog. People mention using knives, you can can shoot very close range and be fairly accurate and its safer then getting close with a knife. It's all about how one feels about this - its a personal choice, but if I was genuinely concerned about being attacked by a large and aggresive animal, this would be my choice.

So a large dog rushes up to you with a scary sounding bark, bark, bark and stops about 4 feet away. He continues to snarl and bark and carry on from about that spot while the owner rushes up to get him. Would you actually draw your firearm and shoot the barking dog?

Years ago in MoCo an off duty cop who was taking a walk shot my neighbors dog in my suburban front yard after the dog ran up to say hi.