TX flood and climate change

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I am so tired of blaming Trump for everything, or blaming Biden, or whomever. Natural disasters happen, people die, it’s horrible and devastating but it’s not always someone’s fault. If that lake had a history of flooding, why was a children’s camp built right there beside it?

Trump is pushing an energy strategy that contributes to making this worse. And he’s gutted NOAA and FEMA to boot. But it’s the Texas government and officials who are, again, most directly responsible for these children’s deaths. They continue to fail their children and “thoughts and prayers” over their deaths.

Can we make this easy enough for MAGA to understand? Let's play connect the dots:

1. Many GOP politicians get big donations from oil and gas and coal companies.

2. These politicians support laws that help fossil fuel companies (like oil, gas, and coal).

3. At the same time, they make it harder for clean energy (like wind and solar) to grow.

4. Burning fossil fuels puts carbon into the air.

5. Too much carbon traps heat, which warms the air and oceans.

6. Warmer ocean water (especially in places like the Gulf of Mexico) causes more water to evaporate into the air.

7. This leads to stronger storms and hurricanes.

8. Stronger storms bring more flooding, damage, and deaths.

A fifth grader would be able to understand all of this. MAGA doesnt have a compelling excuse for not understanding it.

Wow, you must be really smart.


Explain how we had strong hurricanes before carbon energy use.

Whole you’re at it, also explain the ice ages, more recently the LCO-MWP, the YD, and the entire pre-KT Boundary climate.


I’m sure this will be a piece of cake for someone who’s as well informed as you.

Are you genuinely a climate change denier? You're comfortable living in this depth of ignorance...or do you just feel it's your duty to champion the GOP disinformation?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Can we (those of us who believe in climate change) stop calling those who haven't connected the dots yet names? It's really not helping our cause.

Believe in climate change is a silly phrase. Do some people believe in gravity and others. Don't believe in gravity? It just is.

Agree. People need to talk as if this isnt a belief. Just facts we are dealing with like an increase in floods or tornados.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I hate summer camps. All kids should be in school year round, these are all simply indoctrination camps.

Weirdo. Summer camp was the happiest time of my 80s childhood.

Are there any overnight summer camps that aren’t religiously affiliated?

What? Of course there are. Where do you live anyway? What a bizarre post.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Can we (those of us who believe in climate change) stop calling those who haven't connected the dots yet names? It's really not helping our cause.

Believe in climate change is a silly phrase. Do some people believe in gravity and others. Don't believe in gravity? It just is.

Agree. People need to talk as if this isnt a belief. Just facts we are dealing with like an increase in floods or tornados.

The point I'm making is that calling people imbeciles just makes things worse. Try acting like an adult.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I am so tired of blaming Trump for everything, or blaming Biden, or whomever. Natural disasters happen, people die, it’s horrible and devastating but it’s not always someone’s fault. If that lake had a history of flooding, why was a children’s camp built right there beside it?

Trump is pushing an energy strategy that contributes to making this worse. And he’s gutted NOAA and FEMA to boot. But it’s the Texas government and officials who are, again, most directly responsible for these children’s deaths. They continue to fail their children and “thoughts and prayers” over their deaths.

Can we make this easy enough for MAGA to understand? Let's play connect the dots:

1. Many GOP politicians get big donations from oil and gas and coal companies.

2. These politicians support laws that help fossil fuel companies (like oil, gas, and coal).

3. At the same time, they make it harder for clean energy (like wind and solar) to grow.

4. Burning fossil fuels puts carbon into the air.

5. Too much carbon traps heat, which warms the air and oceans.

6. Warmer ocean water (especially in places like the Gulf of Mexico) causes more water to evaporate into the air.

7. This leads to stronger storms and hurricanes.

8. Stronger storms bring more flooding, damage, and deaths.

A fifth grader would be able to understand all of this. MAGA doesnt have a compelling excuse for not understanding it.

Wow, you must be really smart.


Explain how we had strong hurricanes before carbon energy use.

Whole you’re at it, also explain the ice ages, more recently the LCO-MWP, the YD, and the entire pre-KT Boundary climate.


I’m sure this will be a piece of cake for someone who’s as well informed as you.

Are you genuinely a climate change denier? You're comfortable living in this depth of ignorance...or do you just feel it's your duty to champion the GOP disinformation?

Do I sound ignorant? Do I use the terminology of an ignorant person unfamiliar with the subject matter?

To the contrary, not only do I understand that the climate IS changing, I, unlike many of you, understand that there is no such thing as a stable climate - one which many of you seem to think resembles what we had prior to about 1986 or so, when the talk of another ice age approaching was finally replaced by the talk of coming global warming.

Climate changes. Sometimes it changes incredibly quickly. It has done so before homo sapien sapien even existed.

Are we causing the climate to change by putting C02 into the atmosphere? Of course we are. And? It’s going to change anyway, regardless of whether we contribute to it or not. We are just one more factor. And we will adapt to it. We will migrate, we will move, we will innovate. That’s what humans do.

Besides - with the pathetically low birth rates in industrialized countries, within another century or two, we’ll either have so few humans left on Earth that they will no longer affect the climate, OR, we’ll be so overrun with the masses from undeveloped countries by then that none of them will even care anymore about the climate.

Either way, anthropogenic climate change is a nonissue is the year 2225.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Can we (those of us who believe in climate change) stop calling those who haven't connected the dots yet names? It's really not helping our cause.

Believe in climate change is a silly phrase. Do some people believe in gravity and others. Don't believe in gravity? It just is.

Agree. People need to talk as if this isnt a belief. Just facts we are dealing with like an increase in floods or tornados.

The point I'm making is that calling people imbeciles just makes things worse. Try acting like an adult.

They cannot. Anyone who disagrees with them is Hitler.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Can we (those of us who believe in climate change) stop calling those who haven't connected the dots yet names? It's really not helping our cause.

Believe in climate change is a silly phrase. Do some people believe in gravity and others. Don't believe in gravity? It just is.

Agree. People need to talk as if this isnt a belief. Just facts we are dealing with like an increase in floods or tornados.

The point I'm making is that calling people imbeciles just makes things worse. Try acting like an adult.

So you can treat me like an imbecile by using words like do you "believe or not believe" in climate change? Don't dish it out if you can't take it.

[Anonymous]

I find it kind of interesting that cities like San Mateo and Imperial Beach California can sue Big Oil alleging catastrophic and imminent danger of damage as a result of that change while simultaneously telling their municipal bond investors that any risk related to climate change is far too remote to be considered a risk requiring disclosure. So risky you have to sue, but not risky enough to warn investors. Interesting.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I find it kind of interesting that cities like San Mateo and Imperial Beach California can sue Big Oil alleging catastrophic and imminent danger of damage as a result of that change while simultaneously telling their municipal bond investors that any risk related to climate change is far too remote to be considered a risk requiring disclosure. So risky you have to sue, but not risky enough to warn investors. Interesting.

If you don't' "believe" in climate change, why don't you take it up with the US department of defense and have them stop wasting your tax dollars preparing for The national security risk it presents.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I find it kind of interesting that cities like San Mateo and Imperial Beach California can sue Big Oil alleging catastrophic and imminent danger of damage as a result of that change while simultaneously telling their municipal bond investors that any risk related to climate change is far too remote to be considered a risk requiring disclosure. So risky you have to sue, but not risky enough to warn investors. Interesting.

If you don't' "believe" in climate change, why don't you take it up with the US department of defense and have them stop wasting your tax dollars preparing for The national security risk it presents.

Could you have written anything less relevant to what you responded too? Enquiring minds want to know.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I’ve noticed that Trump supporters don’t have the ability to detect cause-effect relationships. Everything happens to them out of the blue, not a result of their choices.

They cannot linked unprecedented weather to the scientists warning about unprecedented weather events for decades.

Before “never seen before” flooding in TX there was “never seen before” flooding in NC, there was a “never seen before” fires in California and Canada, tornadoes in Michigan that were never seen before, not to mention hurricanes. Every summer is the hottest summer on the record.

Yet, these imbeciles cannot put 2 and 2 together. Instead of 2+2=4, in Republican mind it’s just 2 and 2

And they think it’s going to affect them. Well, you are wrong. You kids will be drowning in floods and burnt in fires and fighting in wars for a drop of fresh water.

Your kids’ kids will look at you and damn you for living for yourselves only, for not preserving the environment for future generations.

It's a true lack of education and critical thinking skills.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Can we (those of us who believe in climate change) stop calling those who haven't connected the dots yet names? It's really not helping our cause.

Believe in climate change is a silly phrase. Do some people believe in gravity and others. Don't believe in gravity? It just is.

Agree. People need to talk as if this isnt a belief. Just facts we are dealing with like an increase in floods or tornados.

The point I'm making is that calling people imbeciles just makes things worse. Try acting like an adult.

Have you heard MAGA speak to others....they call people far worse than imbecile. Everyone is done being adult with MAGAs who care for no one but themselves and their orange leader.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I find it kind of interesting that cities like San Mateo and Imperial Beach California can sue Big Oil alleging catastrophic and imminent danger of damage as a result of that change while simultaneously telling their municipal bond investors that any risk related to climate change is far too remote to be considered a risk requiring disclosure. So risky you have to sue, but not risky enough to warn investors. Interesting.

If you don't' "believe" in climate change, why don't you take it up with the US department of defense and have them stop wasting your tax dollars preparing for The national security risk it presents.

Could you have written anything less relevant to what you responded too? Enquiring minds want to know.

When a poster seems to mock or deny the existence of climate change, it is useful to point out large entities like the US department of defense or the United States property insurance industry that are actively engaged in analyzing the reality of climate change and the risks it presents. There is no needs to rely on anonymous dcum poster discussing the reality of climate change.

It is not difficult to understand.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I find it kind of interesting that cities like San Mateo and Imperial Beach California can sue Big Oil alleging catastrophic and imminent danger of damage as a result of that change while simultaneously telling their municipal bond investors that any risk related to climate change is far too remote to be considered a risk requiring disclosure. So risky you have to sue, but not risky enough to warn investors. Interesting.

If you don't' "believe" in climate change, why don't you take it up with the US department of defense and have them stop wasting your tax dollars preparing for The national security risk it presents.

Could you have written anything less relevant to what you responded too? Enquiring minds want to know.

When a poster seems to mock or deny the existence of climate change, it is useful to point out large entities like the US department of defense or the United States property insurance industry that are actively engaged in analyzing the reality of climate change and the risks it presents. There is no needs to rely on anonymous dcum poster discussing the reality of climate change.

It is not difficult to understand.

I've given up trying to convince people. They will figure it out sooner or later anyhow.

DOD, large corporations, insurers know what's up. It is what it is at this point. The ultra rich already have their bunkers built in secure locations.

The know nothings have done what they can to stop reaction to climate change and it is already too late.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’ve noticed that Trump supporters don’t have the ability to detect cause-effect relationships. Everything happens to them out of the blue, not a result of their choices.

They cannot linked unprecedented weather to the scientists warning about unprecedented weather events for decades.

Before “never seen before” flooding in TX there was “never seen before” flooding in NC, there was a “never seen before” fires in California and Canada, tornadoes in Michigan that were never seen before, not to mention hurricanes. Every summer is the hottest summer on the record.

Yet, these imbeciles cannot put 2 and 2 together. Instead of 2+2=4, in Republican mind it’s just 2 and 2

And they think it’s going to affect them. Well, you are wrong. You kids will be drowning in floods and burnt in fires and fighting in wars for a drop of fresh water.

Your kids’ kids will look at you and damn you for living for yourselves only, for not preserving the environment for future generations.

It's a true lack of education and critical thinking skills.

That plus the "I've got mine" approach to issues. "I have MY pension, so now you, Gen X/Gen Y federal worker, can go to hell and lose yours because someone has to pay the piper (and it WILL NOT BE ME! Hee-hee!)