Elderly parent is on Medicaid in nursing home, will they lose financing?

[Anonymous]

How long has she been there, OP? They don’t really last there. Maybe a couple more years and you won’t have to worry about it. Care is pretty poor as it is and will be getting worse in the coming years.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Not a Trump supporter (actually hate him) but I also know there is significant fraud within Medicaid. I just hope they can discern between a lazy a$$ 40yo vs a “legit” 90yo on Medicaid. No doubt there will be collateral damage I fear.

Most fraud comes from providers btw
They claim anything and everything on behalf of their patients

[Anonymous]

Yes.
They will be turned over to you.
filial responsibility law.
You pay or you take them into your home.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My spouse is an executive VP in the LTC business. They are not panicking yet. But everyone acknowledges that
Funding may be lost. If that happens your relative will be evicted if that is their payor source. And if the home shuts down, there won’t be any chance of them being forced to keep people who don’t/can’t pay. Thing is that this is an evolving situation and no one knows what will be affected. But the places that will be hit the hardest are those with insufficient private pay to cover the losses.

So in other words, the less expensive places in rural areas and elsewhere that do not depend on private pay will close. The tony places in DC that charge $20k a month and serve the elite will remain open.

Yes, and the latter do not take Medicaid.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I predict a lot more euthanasia.

YOU do not get to make the decision about when and how you die. THEY make that decision for you. It’s the ultimate expression of freedom, really.

/s

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Just curious what will happen to elderly 71 year old disabled parent who is medicaid in a nursing home. We pay nothing. Would she lose her spot in a nursing home?

71 is very young to be in a nursing home. She is not elderly. I am assuming she is otherwise disabled, as opposed to being elderly, so that is likely what will impact her status.

Elderly is a medical concept in this context and 65 is the age one is considered by medical professionals to be sadly elderly. If you make it to 75+ that’s late elderly. Many Americans have serious health conditions by the time they are early to mid 60s which is why mid 70s is the average age life expectancy for Americans. The better educated and wealthier tend to live much longer because they didn’t do a lifetime of body crushing work and they had easier access to preventive health care and high quality diet etc.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Yes.
They will be turned over to you.
filial responsibility law.
You pay or you take them into your home.

No, that’s not how it works. They cannot force you to pay.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I predict a lot more euthanasia.

YOU do not get to make the decision about when and how you die. THEY make that decision for you. It’s the ultimate expression of freedom, really.

/s

That’s not how it works and not allowed.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Just curious what will happen to elderly 71 year old disabled parent who is medicaid in a nursing home. We pay nothing. Would she lose her spot in a nursing home?

71 is very young to be in a nursing home. She is not elderly. I am assuming she is otherwise disabled, as opposed to being elderly, so that is likely what will impact her status.

Elderly is a medical concept in this context and 65 is the age one is considered by medical professionals to be sadly elderly. If you make it to 75+ that’s late elderly. Many Americans have serious health conditions by the time they are early to mid 60s which is why mid 70s is the average age life expectancy for Americans. The better educated and wealthier tend to live much longer because they didn’t do a lifetime of body crushing work and they had easier access to preventive health care and high quality diet etc.

Not sadly elderly, EARLY elderly

Hate the autocorrect 🤬

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I predict a lot more euthanasia.

YOU do not get to make the decision about when and how you die. THEY make that decision for you. It’s the ultimate expression of freedom, really.

/s

In theory yes. I’ve had two family members die in hospice and my experience is that it’s a hair breadth away from euthanasia. Basically the ER doctors will suggest a discharge to hospice rather than any sort of aggresssjvr care. Hospice will then take them off all the medications that keep them gojng. Hospice will then recommend the HAM sandwich — haldol, morphine and Ativan — to keep the patient calm. They will gtadually increase the dosage on that. What elderly person is going to survive that combination? I’m not complaining, I’m just saying that there is more room for euthanasia than most people think.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:No one really knows OP, and it may depend on the state and how they allocate the money.

+100

Each state is free to handle the cuts to Medicaid funding how they see fit. So, no one can say what each state will do yet.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Just curious what will happen to elderly 71 year old disabled parent who is medicaid in a nursing home. We pay nothing. Would she lose her spot in a nursing home?

71 is very young to be in a nursing home. She is not elderly. I am assuming she is otherwise disabled, as opposed to being elderly, so that is likely what will impact her status.

Elderly is a medical concept in this context and 65 is the age one is considered by medical professionals to be sadly elderly. If you make it to 75+ that’s late elderly. Many Americans have serious health conditions by the time they are early to mid 60s which is why mid 70s is the average age life expectancy for Americans. The better educated and wealthier tend to live much longer because they didn’t do a lifetime of body crushing work and they had easier access to preventive health care and high quality diet etc.

It is very rare to see a lot of people in their 60s and early 70s in a nursing home. It is an anomaly if there are some, a problem that likely has been around long term or has a specific situation. I don't care what or how cultural labels came to be, but 71 is not elderly in the sense if requiring a nursing home.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Just curious what will happen to elderly 71 year old disabled parent who is medicaid in a nursing home. We pay nothing. Would she lose her spot in a nursing home?

71 is very young to be in a nursing home. She is not elderly. I am assuming she is otherwise disabled, as opposed to being elderly, so that is likely what will impact her status.

Elderly is a medical concept in this context and 65 is the age one is considered by medical professionals to be sadly elderly. If you make it to 75+ that’s late elderly. Many Americans have serious health conditions by the time they are early to mid 60s which is why mid 70s is the average age life expectancy for Americans. The better educated and wealthier tend to live much longer because they didn’t do a lifetime of body crushing work and they had easier access to preventive health care and high quality diet etc.

Not sadly elderly, EARLY elderly

Hate the autocorrect 🤬

A 40 year old would call that elderly, but it isn't accurate.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Im not sure I understand your question? If she’s there, and Medicaid is paying, what makes you think they’d stop? Your relative, at their age, also has Medicare

Medicare doesn’t pay for nursing homes.

So how do people pay for nursing homes? It's very expensive

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Im not sure I understand your question? If she’s there, and Medicaid is paying, what makes you think they’d stop? Your relative, at their age, also has Medicare

Medicare doesn’t pay for nursing homes.

So how do people pay for nursing homes? It's very expensive

Private pay, family, long term care Medicaid.