NVSL B-meet 6/23 and heat advisory

[Anonymous]

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Ok grandma, back to the home for you.

Really?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:It’s NVSL. Nothing cancels or changes anything. Haha

It's not. B meets aren't NVSL meets.

But it’s under the NVSL umbrella. Would they cancel if it was an A meet?

They would not cancel it if an A meet. Only storms will cancel a meet.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It’s NVSL. Nothing cancels or changes anything. Haha

It's not. B meets aren't NVSL meets.

But it’s under the NVSL umbrella. Would they cancel if it was an A meet?

They would not cancel it if an A meet. Only storms will cancel a meet.

Agree. Last year there were several Saturday meets with extreme heat and they proceeded as planned, with recommendations on hydration, start times, etc. from the league.
B meets aren’t governed by the NVSL. They can’t mandate canceling them. More like a raincoat you’d pair with your umbrella vs. part of the umbrella.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It’s NVSL. Nothing cancels or changes anything. Haha

It's not. B meets aren't NVSL meets.

But it’s under the NVSL umbrella. Would they cancel if it was an A meet?

They would not cancel it if an A meet. Only storms will cancel a meet.

Agree. Last year there were several Saturday meets with extreme heat and they proceeded as planned, with recommendations on hydration, start times, etc. from the league.
B meets aren’t governed by the NVSL. They can’t mandate canceling them. More like a raincoat you’d pair with your umbrella vs. part of the umbrella.

I'm in favor of starting our A meets at 730 if possible assuming no HOA restrictions (or any other noise ordinances) heat or no heat advisory. 9am start time just seems so late.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It’s NVSL. Nothing cancels or changes anything. Haha

It's not. B meets aren't NVSL meets.

But it’s under the NVSL umbrella. Would they cancel if it was an A meet?

They would not cancel it if an A meet. Only storms will cancel a meet.

Agree. Last year there were several Saturday meets with extreme heat and they proceeded as planned, with recommendations on hydration, start times, etc. from the league.
B meets aren’t governed by the NVSL. They can’t mandate canceling them. More like a raincoat you’d pair with your umbrella vs. part of the umbrella.

I'm in favor of starting our A meets at 730 if possible assuming no HOA restrictions (or any other noise ordinances) heat or no heat advisory. 9am start time just seems so late.

Key swim meet volunteer here.
I love the idea of starting earlier also, but remember at the *very least* you need 40 minutes of swimmers warming up before you can start the meet.
Then adding in 20 minutes for briefings and other on-deck stuff, an 8:00 am start time would require teams to arrive before 6:30 at their home pool to caravan together to the meet location.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It’s NVSL. Nothing cancels or changes anything. Haha

It's not. B meets aren't NVSL meets.

But it’s under the NVSL umbrella. Would they cancel if it was an A meet?

Under the NVSL umbrella how?

[Anonymous]

They don’t cancel for storms. Unless it’s continued and you’ve already sat in your car for a long time to restart. Haha

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It’s NVSL. Nothing cancels or changes anything. Haha

It's not. B meets aren't NVSL meets.

But it’s under the NVSL umbrella. Would they cancel if it was an A meet?

Under the NVSL umbrella how?

Don’t we follow NVSL and rules and use the same officials?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It’s NVSL. Nothing cancels or changes anything. Haha

It's not. B meets aren't NVSL meets.

But it’s under the NVSL umbrella. Would they cancel if it was an A meet?

Under the NVSL umbrella how?

Don’t we follow NVSL and rules and use the same officials?

Teams opt to follow NVSL because they use the B meets as a training ground for A meets and as another poster mentioned, you want to have some semblance of fairness for officiating so that 7-year old Lucy and 10-year old Luke don't make it into A meet because a of fast time for a B meet because it later turns out that Lucy never was able to turn her ankles out for BR and you could've made a sandwich in the time it took Luke to flip over to initiate his backstroke turn. All of that said, there's nothing stop you from winging it (another poster) if don't have enough officials - (shit comes up) or you and another team want to do something fun like having a relay-only B meet. It's all based on what you and the other team agree to.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It’s NVSL. Nothing cancels or changes anything. Haha

It's not. B meets aren't NVSL meets.

But it’s under the NVSL umbrella. Would they cancel if it was an A meet?

They would not cancel it if an A meet. Only storms will cancel a meet.

Agree. Last year there were several Saturday meets with extreme heat and they proceeded as planned, with recommendations on hydration, start times, etc. from the league.
B meets aren’t governed by the NVSL. They can’t mandate canceling them. More like a raincoat you’d pair with your umbrella vs. part of the umbrella.

I'm in favor of starting our A meets at 730 if possible assuming no HOA restrictions (or any other noise ordinances) heat or no heat advisory. 9am start time just seems so late.

Key swim meet volunteer here.
I love the idea of starting earlier also, but remember at the *very least* you need 40 minutes of swimmers warming up before you can start the meet.
Then adding in 20 minutes for briefings and other on-deck stuff, an 8:00 am start time would require teams to arrive before 6:30 at their home pool to caravan together to the meet location.

We've done that, though last year. It was fine.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It’s NVSL. Nothing cancels or changes anything. Haha

It's not. B meets aren't NVSL meets.

But it’s under the NVSL umbrella. Would they cancel if it was an A meet?

They would not cancel it if an A meet. Only storms will cancel a meet.

Agree. Last year there were several Saturday meets with extreme heat and they proceeded as planned, with recommendations on hydration, start times, etc. from the league.
B meets aren’t governed by the NVSL. They can’t mandate canceling them. More like a raincoat you’d pair with your umbrella vs. part of the umbrella.

I'm in favor of starting our A meets at 730 if possible assuming no HOA restrictions (or any other noise ordinances) heat or no heat advisory. 9am start time just seems so late.

Key swim meet volunteer here.
I love the idea of starting earlier also, but remember at the *very least* you need 40 minutes of swimmers warming up before you can start the meet.
Then adding in 20 minutes for briefings and other on-deck stuff, an 8:00 am start time would require teams to arrive before 6:30 at their home pool to caravan together to the meet location.

As someone who lives near enough to a pool to hear the yelling and screaming begin at 8am, no thanks to a 730am start time with warmups starting at 630am. And I don't even live right adjacent to the pool.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It’s NVSL. Nothing cancels or changes anything. Haha

It's not. B meets aren't NVSL meets.

But it’s under the NVSL umbrella. Would they cancel if it was an A meet?

They would not cancel it if an A meet. Only storms will cancel a meet.

Agree. Last year there were several Saturday meets with extreme heat and they proceeded as planned, with recommendations on hydration, start times, etc. from the league.
B meets aren’t governed by the NVSL. They can’t mandate canceling them. More like a raincoat you’d pair with your umbrella vs. part of the umbrella.

I'm in favor of starting our A meets at 730 if possible assuming no HOA restrictions (or any other noise ordinances) heat or no heat advisory. 9am start time just seems so late.

Key swim meet volunteer here.
I love the idea of starting earlier also, but remember at the *very least* you need 40 minutes of swimmers warming up before you can start the meet.
Then adding in 20 minutes for briefings and other on-deck stuff, an 8:00 am start time would require teams to arrive before 6:30 at their home pool to caravan together to the meet location.

Yep, it would. And I'd definitely support it. Babies, club meets, school busses, and many jobs start that early anyway. And then we'd all have more of our Saturdays back.

If there's no noise rule for the neighborhood itself (in which case all bets are off), I'd also submit that 7:30am on a summer Saturday isn't too early for the world to get going, especially since at most a pool will host 3 A meets a year amd can easily circulate those days ahead of time.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It’s NVSL. Nothing cancels or changes anything. Haha

It's not. B meets aren't NVSL meets.

But it’s under the NVSL umbrella. Would they cancel if it was an A meet?

They would not cancel it if an A meet. Only storms will cancel a meet.

Agree. Last year there were several Saturday meets with extreme heat and they proceeded as planned, with recommendations on hydration, start times, etc. from the league.
B meets aren’t governed by the NVSL. They can’t mandate canceling them. More like a raincoat you’d pair with your umbrella vs. part of the umbrella.

I'm in favor of starting our A meets at 730 if possible assuming no HOA restrictions (or any other noise ordinances) heat or no heat advisory. 9am start time just seems so late.

Key swim meet volunteer here.
I love the idea of starting earlier also, but remember at the *very least* you need 40 minutes of swimmers warming up before you can start the meet.
Then adding in 20 minutes for briefings and other on-deck stuff, an 8:00 am start time would require teams to arrive before 6:30 at their home pool to caravan together to the meet location.

Most CSL meets start at 8 am. It makes for an early morning especially for away meets, but it’s great to be done with IM and everything by 10:30. Our pool has to open at 11 and I imagine a lot of other HOA pools are the same way.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It’s NVSL. Nothing cancels or changes anything. Haha

It's not. B meets aren't NVSL meets.

But it’s under the NVSL umbrella. Would they cancel if it was an A meet?

They would not cancel it if an A meet. Only storms will cancel a meet.

Agree. Last year there were several Saturday meets with extreme heat and they proceeded as planned, with recommendations on hydration, start times, etc. from the league.
B meets aren’t governed by the NVSL. They can’t mandate canceling them. More like a raincoat you’d pair with your umbrella vs. part of the umbrella.

I'm in favor of starting our A meets at 730 if possible assuming no HOA restrictions (or any other noise ordinances) heat or no heat advisory. 9am start time just seems so late.

Key swim meet volunteer here.
I love the idea of starting earlier also, but remember at the *very least* you need 40 minutes of swimmers warming up before you can start the meet.
Then adding in 20 minutes for briefings and other on-deck stuff, an 8:00 am start time would require teams to arrive before 6:30 at their home pool to caravan together to the meet location.

As someone who lives near enough to a pool to hear the yelling and screaming begin at 8am, no thanks to a 730am start time with warmups starting at 630am. And I don't even live right adjacent to the pool.

Was the pool there when you moved in? Bet it was - caveat emptor babe 🤷🏼‍♀️

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It’s NVSL. Nothing cancels or changes anything. Haha

It's not. B meets aren't NVSL meets.

But it’s under the NVSL umbrella. Would they cancel if it was an A meet?

They would not cancel it if an A meet. Only storms will cancel a meet.

Agree. Last year there were several Saturday meets with extreme heat and they proceeded as planned, with recommendations on hydration, start times, etc. from the league.
B meets aren’t governed by the NVSL. They can’t mandate canceling them. More like a raincoat you’d pair with your umbrella vs. part of the umbrella.

I'm in favor of starting our A meets at 730 if possible assuming no HOA restrictions (or any other noise ordinances) heat or no heat advisory. 9am start time just seems so late.

Key swim meet volunteer here.
I love the idea of starting earlier also, but remember at the *very least* you need 40 minutes of swimmers warming up before you can start the meet.
Then adding in 20 minutes for briefings and other on-deck stuff, an 8:00 am start time would require teams to arrive before 6:30 at their home pool to caravan together to the meet location.

Remember too that some away teams have long drives, so could be earlier than a 6:30 departure. Our A meet this past weekend was 45 minutes away (NVSL). We would have needed to leave by ~6:15 for an 8am start. That's arguably worse for the kids than the heat at an 11:30 finish as opposed to a 10:30 finish.