engineering school for B+ student?

Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:1450 SAT. Lots and lots of service. Looking to get into engineering for international development kind of stuff. Not aerospace or anything like that.


I don’t follow what that means. Engineering is engineering. You can look for a job in that area after you graduate but what difference does it make at this point?

- engineer


A PP. Schools may differ based on host institution. I suggested looking for a school that offers non-engineering international courses and majors that are relevant. The environment in which an engineering college operates can enhance the experience.

I chose my MBA program for a strong focus on applied, onsite projects, including the possibility of international work. Through my program, I got two chances to work abroad. One in the Czech Republic over a spring break researching the environmental best practices of Czech companies. And a summer fellowship in Russia and Ukraine looking at machinery spare parts market development. There was a South American guy who was a Civil Engineering Master's student working with me on the latter. Many large R1 universities, like mine, have ties to various international initiatives through faculty. By researching the engineering faculty members' interests, and whether there are engineering-specific study abroad opportunities, you can learn about some possible added dimensions to the undergrad experience. This will differ by school.

I don't think Pitt, my undergrad university, is a guaranteed fit for this student as a pure engineering school. But Pitt has a high focus on study abroad and the Public Policy school has graduated a fair number of professionals from less-developed countries. It might be possible to create a very interesting self-directed program of study there, through Pitt Honors and the Engineering College. Pitt likes students who enter with a clear vision/proposal of what they are interested in exploring through their education. It might bring a little added merit aid. Definitely help qualify for Pitt Honors. The SAT is in range. They may not know how to account for 92 = B+ so well.



Not helpful.


Not helpful, why, PP? I'm illustrating what I think OP's kid could look for beyond the completely obvious. Do you expect me to cross-tabulate all the universities that offer international non-profit management and engineering at a credible level?

I'm guessing you're a really literal thinker. I gave a business example because that's my experience. But my grad uni has varied engineering programs that might fit the bill. I didn't mention them because the school is usually 1500+, 3.9 uw tier for OOS.

International work, especially in developing economies, can be frustrating and requires cultural awareness and a flexible mindset. Classes and study abroad outside the engineering school could be a very helpful assist to pure technical knowledge classes.
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Anonymous wrote:Penn State and Georgia Tech


Georgia Tech? Kid with a 1580 and a 4.2 didn't get in. It's almost impossible to get in there especially out of state. Like a 6-9% acceptance rate for engineering applications out of state and 12.7% acceptance overall.


Georgia Tech has a separate admission for CS. Very likely to reject 1580/4.2 OOS.
For non-CS engineering OOS, less selective.


LOL at being less selective for engineering. You are just trolling. 9% percent acceptance rate overall OOS and 6% for Engineering majors. 12.7% overall acceptance rate for both OOS and Instate.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:If SAT math ( or equivalent ACT) < 700 than engineering not a good fit


Son had SAT math 680. English 740 - total 1440.
He just graduated in Civil Engineering from Berkeley with a 3.8 GPA. Stop the BS.
Anonymous
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Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:If SAT math ( or equivalent ACT) < 700 than engineering not a good fit


Son had SAT math 680. English 740 - total 1440.
He just graduated in Civil Engineering from Berkeley with a 3.8 GPA. Stop the BS.


Agreed. The under 4.0 average GPA will be more of an issue at the Top Engineering schools.

Anonymous
The good news is that if your kid is going into their senior then they still have room to get the GPA up even more for the very competitive schools. The SAT is fine. Have them focus on EC's as well.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:If SAT math ( or equivalent ACT) < 700 than engineering not a good fit


Son had SAT math 680. English 740 - total 1440.
He just graduated in Civil Engineering from Berkeley with a 3.8 GPA. Stop the BS.


Agreed. The under 4.0 average GPA will be more of an issue at the Top Engineering schools.



yes. Since my soon was at Berkeley he didnt have to send SAT scores, but I can tell you there wasn’t many B avg. students, if any, in their Civil degree, which happens to be one of the top CE programs in the country. MY point was the PP assessment by SAT math scores to be successful in engineering is absurd and ridiculous….His best friend was a 28 ACT math….but had a 5 in Calc AB…graduated with my son from Berkeley with similar grades as my son.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Penn State and Georgia Tech


Georgia Tech? Kid with a 1580 and a 4.2 didn't get in. It's almost impossible to get in there especially out of state. Like a 6-9% acceptance rate for engineering applications out of state and 12.7% acceptance overall.


Georgia Tech has a separate admission for CS. Very likely to reject 1580/4.2 OOS.
For non-CS engineering OOS, less selective.


LOL at being less selective for engineering. You are just trolling. 9% percent acceptance rate overall OOS and 6% for Engineering majors. 12.7% overall acceptance rate for both OOS and Instate.


That's the numbers for Engineering as a whole, without separating CS.
CS is super competitive. Non-CS is less selective. Period.
Anonymous
We do kids a disservice pretending like engineering is so hard to get into or graduate in.

And it doesnt matter where you go. Ho to Drexel or Marquette or any state u. You’ll be fine
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Penn State and Georgia Tech


Georgia Tech? Kid with a 1580 and a 4.2 didn't get in. It's almost impossible to get in there especially out of state. Like a 6-9% acceptance rate for engineering applications out of state and 12.7% acceptance overall.


Georgia Tech has a separate admission for CS. Very likely to reject 1580/4.2 OOS.
For non-CS engineering OOS, less selective.


LOL at being less selective for engineering. You are just trolling. 9% percent acceptance rate overall OOS and 6% for Engineering majors. 12.7% overall acceptance rate for both OOS and Instate.


That's the numbers for Engineering as a whole, without separating CS.
CS is super competitive. Non-CS is less selective. Period.


CS is a very small percentage of students at GT compared to engineering. Engineering is extremely selective and make up a majority of the admission stats. This is a fact.

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Penn State and Georgia Tech


Georgia Tech? Kid with a 1580 and a 4.2 didn't get in. It's almost impossible to get in there especially out of state. Like a 6-9% acceptance rate for engineering applications out of state and 12.7% acceptance overall.


Georgia Tech has a separate admission for CS. Very likely to reject 1580/4.2 OOS.
For non-CS engineering OOS, less selective.


LOL at being less selective for engineering. You are just trolling. 9% percent acceptance rate overall OOS and 6% for Engineering majors. 12.7% overall acceptance rate for both OOS and Instate.


That's the numbers for Engineering as a whole, without separating CS.
CS is super competitive. Non-CS is less selective. Period.


CS is a very small percentage of students at GT compared to engineering. Engineering is extremely selective and make up a majority of the admission stats. This is a fact.



It might be. But the fact is the number of CS applicants is huge, though they only admit a small number of CS students.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:If SAT math ( or equivalent ACT) < 700 than engineering not a good fit


Son had SAT math 680. English 740 - total 1440.
He just graduated in Civil Engineering from Berkeley with a 3.8 GPA. Stop the BS.


Hopefully in Transportation or Environmental… For structural eng that would be catastrophic
Anonymous
Do you mean civil engineering? Every civil, structural and MEP engineer I know came out of Penn State. Huge network.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:If SAT math ( or equivalent ACT) < 700 than engineering not a good fit


Son had SAT math 680. English 740 - total 1440.
He just graduated in Civil Engineering from Berkeley with a 3.8 GPA. Stop the BS.


Hopefully in Transportation or Environmental… For structural eng that would be catastrophic


They are both structural. Nothing catastrophic about it other than you ignorance on the subject.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:The good news is that if your kid is going into their senior then they still have room to get the GPA up even more for the very competitive schools. The SAT is fine. Have them focus on EC's as well.

ECs don’t matter much for engineering and most schools will not look at senior grades.
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