Andre, Andrei or Andrey?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Last name is unambiguously slavic, and the parents are from Eastern Europe. Parents don’t want a “tragedeigh” name but also don’t want to culturally appropriate the name they perceive as predominantly AA currently (Andre).
Thoughts?

I recommend therapy.

[Anonymous]

An Eastern European talking about cultural appropriation is culturally appropriating Leftist-American culture. My Marxism is not your costume.

Did the parent actually say "Andre sounds like a Black name" and you tried to translate into woke?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Eastern European here and I actually would have gone with Andrei in English. But Andrey also works. Andriy if they are Ukrainian.

The wild card is Polish, which is Andrzej

Due respect to Poland because it’s a beautiful country but Polish spelling makes no sense. They are as bad as the Irish. (My mom used to joke that the Irish spelling was so incomprehensible just to screw with the British.)

[Anonymous]

Americans emphasize the first syllable of names. Anything else will be mispronounced.

The Elizabeth family schwas the E, but As don't get that treatment.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Andre doesn’t read AA to me. Andre Agassi comes to mind. He’s part Armenian/Ukrainian.

Same. Also, will this kid have an Eastern European/Russian last name? If so, that would make people not think AA. Many AA have French or British last names and I've never met any with a Russian last name.

I googled how to pronounce Andrei and it's Ann dray e- 3 syllables. I like that spelling, but Andre is also nice. I personally like Andres, but that reads more latin.

It's not 3 syllables.

Not the PP but native speaker of an Eastern Slavic language and I see what PP means. It's not three syllables but it is a tonal shift at the end of the name. I'm sure that folks with linguistics training could identify the phenomenon. An-DREI-yi but where that final yi is just a tone shift. It's also why the Andrei spelling makes sense to Russian speakers.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Americans emphasize the first syllable of names. Anything else will be mispronounced.

The Elizabeth family schwas the E, but As don't get that treatment.

Yes like Michelle, Amanda, Nathaniel, Savannah, etc. Go on telling us about American pronunciations.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Andrei would be mispronounced (unless it is Andre-ee?)
Andrey would get confused with Audrey 90% of the time, and the other 10% would be pronounced as Ann-dree

I vote Andre. I actually don't think Andre reads AA. I've known several Andres that were Hispanic/Italian/latin, so that would be my first thought.

#1 Andre
#2 Andrei

All Andrés I know are french, not AA. SMDH.

André

Do you know French people named Andre or André?

To me, André is French but that’s as different from Andre as Andrei is.

I thought OP meant André but didn't know how to do the accent mark. Andre is pronounced Andrrrr.

Not in English it’s not

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Anonymous wrote:Andrei would be mispronounced (unless it is Andre-ee?)
Andrey would get confused with Audrey 90% of the time, and the other 10% would be pronounced as Ann-dree

I vote Andre. I actually don't think Andre reads AA. I've known several Andres that were Hispanic/Italian/latin, so that would be my first thought.

#1 Andre
#2 Andrei

All Andrés I know are french, not AA. SMDH.

André

Do you know French people named Andre or André?

To me, André is French but that’s as different from Andre as Andrei is.

I thought OP meant André but didn't know how to do the accent mark. Andre is pronounced Andrrrr.

what?? that's not how I'd pronounce Andre

And a big NO on accent marks. They aren't on American keyboards.

How do you pronounce the word Andre as spelled? Do you pronounce Claire as Claire-ay? A silent e is typically silent unless you have a different indication. If people are this stupid I totally think OP should pursue Andrei. That tells you to do something with that 'e'.

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Anonymous wrote:Andrei would be mispronounced (unless it is Andre-ee?)
Andrey would get confused with Audrey 90% of the time, and the other 10% would be pronounced as Ann-dree

I vote Andre. I actually don't think Andre reads AA. I've known several Andres that were Hispanic/Italian/latin, so that would be my first thought.

#1 Andre
#2 Andrei

All Andrés I know are french, not AA. SMDH.

André

Do you know French people named Andre or André?

To me, André is French but that’s as different from Andre as Andrei is.

I thought OP meant André but didn't know how to do the accent mark. Andre is pronounced Andrrrr.

what?? that's not how I'd pronounce Andre

And a big NO on accent marks. They aren't on American keyboards.

How do you pronounce the word Andre as spelled? Do you pronounce Claire as Claire-ay? A silent e is typically silent unless you have a different indication. If people are this stupid I totally think OP should pursue Andrei. That tells you to do something with that 'e'.

OK. Now I'm intrigued with this PP because Andre is a pretty common US name, if primarily found in certain communities.

In Claire, the e is clearly closing out the air. That's what makes it silent, because Clair and Claire would sound the same.

But in Andre, the e is part of the "dre" pronounced dray

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Anonymous wrote:Andrei would be mispronounced (unless it is Andre-ee?)
Andrey would get confused with Audrey 90% of the time, and the other 10% would be pronounced as Ann-dree

I vote Andre. I actually don't think Andre reads AA. I've known several Andres that were Hispanic/Italian/latin, so that would be my first thought.

#1 Andre
#2 Andrei

All Andrés I know are french, not AA. SMDH.

André

Do you know French people named Andre or André?

To me, André is French but that’s as different from Andre as Andrei is.

I thought OP meant André but didn't know how to do the accent mark. Andre is pronounced Andrrrr.

what?? that's not how I'd pronounce Andre

And a big NO on accent marks. They aren't on American keyboards.

How do you pronounce the word Andre as spelled? Do you pronounce Claire as Claire-ay? A silent e is typically silent unless you have a different indication. If people are this stupid I totally think OP should pursue Andrei. That tells you to do something with that 'e'.

I speak two languages and in both Andre is pronounced the same. Claire is French and yes, I think the world has a bone to pick with France over their pronunciations in general.

I have only ever heard Andre pronounce Ahn-dray in English.

[Anonymous]

Andrei is the only choice.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Andrei would be mispronounced (unless it is Andre-ee?)
Andrey would get confused with Audrey 90% of the time, and the other 10% would be pronounced as Ann-dree

I vote Andre. I actually don't think Andre reads AA. I've known several Andres that were Hispanic/Italian/latin, so that would be my first thought.

#1 Andre
#2 Andrei

lol - I did exactly what pp said people would do. Misread as Audrey and mispronounced as Ann-Dree. It’s early and blaming it on a very bad nights sleep.

Andre for the win.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:My first thought seeing Andrey was that people will think it’s a typo for both Audrey and Andrew. So don’t do that.

I think either Andre or Andrei are fine and I’ve known people w both spellings (including a few Andres who weren’t black since you asked about that) but Andre is more likely to be pronounced and spelled correctly here in the US so I’d probably go w that. I’m sure lots of people will still mistake it for Andrew though.

Oh trust me I know about the last part, I am Valeria and there is always someone who calls me Valerie!

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Go with Andrei.
I really don’t thing you need to worry about cultural appropriation in this case though.

I agree with Andrei. As as Russian speaker, I would say Andrei with the emphasis on the second syllable, while in the US at least i typically hear Andre with the emphasis on the first syllable.

I hear ya but I’d pronounce them the same, first syllable emphasis

[Anonymous]

Andre. Or Andrei if you must. Definitely not Andrey.