Virginian Tournament

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Wish they would somehow limit the clubs that try to play their teams up a year. We had one game where the younger team was extremely outmatched (size, speed, quickness) and it felt unsafe and more than a little unfair.

My daughter was in the bottom bracket for her age group and played against a team playing up a year. We had the opposite experience, they were an ECRL team so of course they dominated the bracket. Pretty messed up they were placed where they were.

Same here, although our younger team was in second of four brackets. Waste of time for all involved.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Playing up a year can be dangerous depending on age. Middle school boys vary in size so dramatically.

By 9th grade they are doing this on HS teams. Freshmen playing varsity, etc

[Anonymous]

Pretty sure all girls u12 top teams from bigger clubs play up all season to play 11 v 11 in anticipation of GA/ECNL when they get to u13.

I know that is the plan for our club and heard it is the same elsewhere.

[Anonymous]

Agreed. That’s why I say depending on age. We saw some kids who weren’t more then 4’6” playing against 6’1” 8th graders. My only concern if safety.

[Anonymous]

Who cares? I think it was a smart move for them to backup. Why waste time on a rinky dinky tournament and risk the chances of getting injured.

Anonymous wrote:Don't know the reason but very unprofessional

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:
Who cares? I think it was a smart move for them to backup. Why waste time on a rinky dinky tournament and risk the chances of getting injured.

Anonymous wrote:Don't know the reason but very unprofessional

Doesn't RL stand for Rinky Dink League? Clearly, if the girls on the team were good players, by that age, they'd be playing more than RL?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:SYC makes all their teams participate to make more money off their travel families.

But, the competition is low, so all their teams end up wanting to play up to make it not a totally wasted weekend.

No one wants to play a team a year younger playing "up", that's a lose lose situation for the correct age team.

Disagree. There is way too much focus on birthdate in this country and not enough on playing kids at the same skill level and physical maturity.
SYC, at the top teams, tends to roster a bunch of physically mature for their age kids. So it seems like a good fit.

So…. Tracking here…. Physical size and strength is an unfair advantage but if your kid has vision/intelligence, that’s okay to use in their age group? Kids develop unevenly but that doesn’t mean you should discount some and not others.

I’ll support biobanding when we are argue for dumb kids to play down for that reason.

The problem is not the players. It's the coaches taking shortcuts and covering up their own lack of knowledge or ability to coach by picking big, fast kids to win with just that. Everyone knows that truly skilled smaller players can compete with and beat bigger players. The problem is few coaches are smart enough to identify these players and then utilize their strengths in a system. So, they take the biggest dogs for the fight and sit back collecting checks.

I have physical visual evidence of the exact opposite. It’s the players. Kids team has some tiny GOOD players who spend most of their time on the ground like an upside down turtle. It’s true and we all know it. You need size in youth elite soccer or to be Messi. If you are Messi any coach will play you and this topic is moot.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
Who cares? I think it was a smart move for them to backup. Why waste time on a rinky dinky tournament and risk the chances of getting injured.

Anonymous wrote:Don't know the reason but very unprofessional

Doesn't RL stand for Rinky Dink League? Clearly, if the girls on the team were good players, by that age, they'd be playing more than RL?

Why are you here posting? Clearly you know nothing.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:SYC makes all their teams participate to make more money off their travel families.

But, the competition is low, so all their teams end up wanting to play up to make it not a totally wasted weekend.

No one wants to play a team a year younger playing "up", that's a lose lose situation for the correct age team.

Disagree. There is way too much focus on birthdate in this country and not enough on playing kids at the same skill level and physical maturity.
SYC, at the top teams, tends to roster a bunch of physically mature for their age kids. So it seems like a good fit.

So…. Tracking here…. Physical size and strength is an unfair advantage but if your kid has vision/intelligence, that’s okay to use in their age group? Kids develop unevenly but that doesn’t mean you should discount some and not others.

I’ll support biobanding when we are argue for dumb kids to play down for that reason.

The problem is not the players. It's the coaches taking shortcuts and covering up their own lack of knowledge or ability to coach by picking big, fast kids to win with just that. Everyone knows that truly skilled smaller players can compete with and beat bigger players. The problem is few coaches are smart enough to identify these players and then utilize their strengths in a system. So, they take the biggest dogs for the fight and sit back collecting checks.

I have physical visual evidence of the exact opposite. It’s the players. Kids team has some tiny GOOD players who spend most of their time on the ground like an upside down turtle. It’s true and we all know it. You need size in youth elite soccer or to be Messi. If you are Messi any coach will play you and this topic is moot.

Hey Jeff, Mr. Moderator- Can we ban any comps where Messi names is inserted?

[Anonymous]

Fact: Messi would be stocking shoe shelves if he was raised in this country. The infatuation with size and perceived athleticism in U.S. soccer is one of the major roadblocks for the sport advancing in this country. We are an NFL, brute strength society incapable of appreciating how the game is supposed to be played.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Fact: Messi would be stocking shoe shelves if he was raised in this country. The infatuation with size and perceived athleticism in U.S. soccer is one of the major roadblocks for the sport advancing in this country. We are an NFL, brute strength society incapable of appreciating how the game is supposed to be played.

Tiny man syndrome right here. Sorry your boy is small.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:SYC makes all their teams participate to make more money off their travel families.

But, the competition is low, so all their teams end up wanting to play up to make it not a totally wasted weekend.

No one wants to play a team a year younger playing "up", that's a lose lose situation for the correct age team.

Disagree. There is way too much focus on birthdate in this country and not enough on playing kids at the same skill level and physical maturity.
SYC, at the top teams, tends to roster a bunch of physically mature for their age kids. So it seems like a good fit.

So…. Tracking here…. Physical size and strength is an unfair advantage but if your kid has vision/intelligence, that’s okay to use in their age group? Kids develop unevenly but that doesn’t mean you should discount some and not others.

I’ll support biobanding when we are argue for dumb kids to play down for that reason.

The problem is not the players. It's the coaches taking shortcuts and covering up their own lack of knowledge or ability to coach by picking big, fast kids to win with just that. Everyone knows that truly skilled smaller players can compete with and beat bigger players. The problem is few coaches are smart enough to identify these players and then utilize their strengths in a system. So, they take the biggest dogs for the fight and sit back collecting checks.

I have physical visual evidence of the exact opposite. It’s the players. Kids team has some tiny GOOD players who spend most of their time on the ground like an upside down turtle. It’s true and we all know it. You need size in youth elite soccer or to be Messi. If you are Messi any coach will play you and this topic is moot.

Maradona was consistently knocked to the ground and popped back up. Soccer wise - he ended up doing pretty well despite being an addict and 5'4". The game is played on the ground. There is always a need for a smaller player when the game is played the right way.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Fact: Messi would be stocking shoe shelves if he was raised in this country. The infatuation with size and perceived athleticism in U.S. soccer is one of the major roadblocks for the sport advancing in this country. We are an NFL, brute strength society incapable of appreciating how the game is supposed to be played.

Tiny man syndrome right here. Sorry your boy is small.

Sorry you will continue to get your big ass thumped by little people in Argentina and Brazil.

[Anonymous]

I just don't like how disjointed the tournament feels. Poor branding and not a fun/exciting feel. You roll up, play and leave.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I just don't like how disjointed the tournament feels. Poor branding and not a fun/exciting feel. You roll up, play and leave.

That's what I want roll up play and leave in a local field