Trump Admin tells court that DOGE is a Deep State that must operate in secrecy.

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DOGE could hire experienced people, but it wants newbies without the experience to see how wrong what they are doing is.

Has everyone forgotten the Bret Baier interview. There are lots of senior executives on DOGE.

Are there still? Because if I was a “senior executive on DOGE,” I’d be running away— fast. Even Elmo is fleeing.

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Anonymous wrote:The thing is, they aren’t anywhere near as capable as the people they replace. There will be plenty of forensic evidence to convict them later.

I recently heard a computer science professor talking about how some of her best and brightest recent grads were recruited into DOGE and rather than actually using their skills they are finding themselves thrust into positions of HR and reorganization and other stupid DOGE things they don't want to be doing and which don't leverage their skills.

They could have gotten jobs anywhere, but they’ve chosen to go to jail instead?

Naive kids, fresh out of college. They were taught technical skills, but lack deeper understanding beyond that.

That’s typical for CS majors, no?

DOGE could hire experienced people, but it wants newbies without the experience to see how wrong what they are doing is.

DOGE is run by morons. They COULD HAVE worked with GAO, IGs and other organizations which have significant expertise and experience in proper forensic investigation and cost savings. But they didn't. They didn't even seem to know that function already existed.

What did those organizations do before about the 100 different computer systems that can't talk to each other?

What is DOGE doing about it? The 100 different computer systems still can't talk to each other now with DOGE supposedly helping. Oh wait, DOGE isn't helping fix any of that. In fact many agencies are facing 50% budget cuts for IT meaning even fewer systems will be able to talk to each other than before.

Wait, what? Did we just start paying taxes today?

WTF have you govvies been doing for the last 50 years by letting it get to this point? You got your tax payer funds. You've been collecting pay checks. What did you do during that time?

Attend meetings all day and get nothing done?

US Govt is supposed to operate in cells to protect sensitive info.

ONLY where it comes to CUI or classified info. But 90% plus of government data is NOT CUI or classified and rightly belongs to the American people and should be getting released, but is still siloed and government struggles to publish it.

And it's siloed and in bad shape because of forced outsourcing of IT sliced and diced across dozens of overpriced private sector contractors who don't work with each other, antiquated systems that haven't been properly modernized because it keeps asses in seats for those expensive contractors, and insufficient in-house IT expertise and resources to bring it all together.

If DOGE were actually competent with IT and making it more efficient, they would have have flagged this and recommended fixing how IT is managed in government, starting with recruitment, training and retention of government IT expertise and investing in modern data platforms.

The hard part of Federal IT isn't the data platforms, it's the billions of lines of poorly documented, custom, run-the-business software written in COBOL and Assembler and business processes that pervade entire agencies that have built up over decades around those systems. Simply catching up would take tens of billions of dollars and would take decades to complete. But DOGE is "saving money" and adding data analytics as if that were the Federal IT modernization problem.

SSA here— and PREACH. This exactly. But, at least it works if you KNOW WHAT YOU ARE DOING, talk to it nicely and say please and feed the hamsters in the wheels running the underlying systems their cheese and replace the Duct tape every year. But, worry not. Elon says he can solve this problem at SSA in 2 months by just running it through AI. At which point we are so f*cked. Like, checks don’t go out bad. (For reference, SSA was starting a system modernization when COVID hit and the funds were diverted. It was projected to take a decade and the assessment was that 30 million edge cases needed testing. But sure. Grok is on it. Solved in 2 months. Question— does Grok know Assembly language?)

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Anonymous wrote:The thing is, they aren’t anywhere near as capable as the people they replace. There will be plenty of forensic evidence to convict them later.

I recently heard a computer science professor talking about how some of her best and brightest recent grads were recruited into DOGE and rather than actually using their skills they are finding themselves thrust into positions of HR and reorganization and other stupid DOGE things they don't want to be doing and which don't leverage their skills.

They could have gotten jobs anywhere, but they’ve chosen to go to jail instead?

Naive kids, fresh out of college. They were taught technical skills, but lack deeper understanding beyond that.

That’s typical for CS majors, no?

DOGE could hire experienced people, but it wants newbies without the experience to see how wrong what they are doing is.

DOGE is run by morons. They COULD HAVE worked with GAO, IGs and other organizations which have significant expertise and experience in proper forensic investigation and cost savings. But they didn't. They didn't even seem to know that function already existed.

What did those organizations do before about the 100 different computer systems that can't talk to each other?

What is DOGE doing about it? The 100 different computer systems still can't talk to each other now with DOGE supposedly helping. Oh wait, DOGE isn't helping fix any of that. In fact many agencies are facing 50% budget cuts for IT meaning even fewer systems will be able to talk to each other than before.

Wait, what? Did we just start paying taxes today?

WTF have you govvies been doing for the last 50 years by letting it get to this point? You got your tax payer funds. You've been collecting pay checks. What did you do during that time?

Attend meetings all day and get nothing done?

US Govt is supposed to operate in cells to protect sensitive info.

ONLY where it comes to CUI or classified info. But 90% plus of government data is NOT CUI or classified and rightly belongs to the American people and should be getting released, but is still siloed and government struggles to publish it.

And it's siloed and in bad shape because of forced outsourcing of IT sliced and diced across dozens of overpriced private sector contractors who don't work with each other, antiquated systems that haven't been properly modernized because it keeps asses in seats for those expensive contractors, and insufficient in-house IT expertise and resources to bring it all together.

If DOGE were actually competent with IT and making it more efficient, they would have have flagged this and recommended fixing how IT is managed in government, starting with recruitment, training and retention of government IT expertise and investing in modern data platforms.

The hard part of Federal IT isn't the data platforms, it's the billions of lines of poorly documented, custom, run-the-business software written in COBOL and Assembler and business processes that pervade entire agencies that have built up over decades around those systems. Simply catching up would take tens of billions of dollars and would take decades to complete. But DOGE is "saving money" and adding data analytics as if that were the Federal IT modernization problem.

SSA here— and PREACH. This exactly. But, at least it works if you KNOW WHAT YOU ARE DOING, talk to it nicely and say please and feed the hamsters in the wheels running the underlying systems their cheese and replace the Duct tape every year. But, worry not. Elon says he can solve this problem at SSA in 2 months by just running it through AI. At which point we are so f*cked. Like, checks don’t go out bad. (For reference, SSA was starting a system modernization when COVID hit and the funds were diverted. It was projected to take a decade and the assessment was that 30 million edge cases needed testing. But sure. Grok is on it. Solved in 2 months. Question— does Grok know Assembly language?)

There's knowing Assembler, knowing why the Assembler's doing what it's doing, and knowing what it should be doing given new business processes and modern software architecture... Other LLMs can't handle the first... So...

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Anonymous wrote:The thing is, they aren’t anywhere near as capable as the people they replace. There will be plenty of forensic evidence to convict them later.

I recently heard a computer science professor talking about how some of her best and brightest recent grads were recruited into DOGE and rather than actually using their skills they are finding themselves thrust into positions of HR and reorganization and other stupid DOGE things they don't want to be doing and which don't leverage their skills.

They could have gotten jobs anywhere, but they’ve chosen to go to jail instead?

Naive kids, fresh out of college. They were taught technical skills, but lack deeper understanding beyond that.

That’s typical for CS majors, no?

DOGE could hire experienced people, but it wants newbies without the experience to see how wrong what they are doing is.

DOGE is run by morons. They COULD HAVE worked with GAO, IGs and other organizations which have significant expertise and experience in proper forensic investigation and cost savings. But they didn't. They didn't even seem to know that function already existed.

What did those organizations do before about the 100 different computer systems that can't talk to each other?

What is DOGE doing about it? The 100 different computer systems still can't talk to each other now with DOGE supposedly helping. Oh wait, DOGE isn't helping fix any of that. In fact many agencies are facing 50% budget cuts for IT meaning even fewer systems will be able to talk to each other than before.

Wait, what? Did we just start paying taxes today?

WTF have you govvies been doing for the last 50 years by letting it get to this point? You got your tax payer funds. You've been collecting pay checks. What did you do during that time?

Attend meetings all day and get nothing done?

US Govt is supposed to operate in cells to protect sensitive info.

ONLY where it comes to CUI or classified info. But 90% plus of government data is NOT CUI or classified and rightly belongs to the American people and should be getting released, but is still siloed and government struggles to publish it.

And it's siloed and in bad shape because of forced outsourcing of IT sliced and diced across dozens of overpriced private sector contractors who don't work with each other, antiquated systems that haven't been properly modernized because it keeps asses in seats for those expensive contractors, and insufficient in-house IT expertise and resources to bring it all together.

If DOGE were actually competent with IT and making it more efficient, they would have have flagged this and recommended fixing how IT is managed in government, starting with recruitment, training and retention of government IT expertise and investing in modern data platforms.

The hard part of Federal IT isn't the data platforms, it's the billions of lines of poorly documented, custom, run-the-business software written in COBOL and Assembler and business processes that pervade entire agencies that have built up over decades around those systems. Simply catching up would take tens of billions of dollars and would take decades to complete. But DOGE is "saving money" and adding data analytics as if that were the Federal IT modernization problem.

SSA here— and PREACH. This exactly. But, at least it works if you KNOW WHAT YOU ARE DOING, talk to it nicely and say please and feed the hamsters in the wheels running the underlying systems their cheese and replace the Duct tape every year. But, worry not. Elon says he can solve this problem at SSA in 2 months by just running it through AI. At which point we are so f*cked. Like, checks don’t go out bad. (For reference, SSA was starting a system modernization when COVID hit and the funds were diverted. It was projected to take a decade and the assessment was that 30 million edge cases needed testing. But sure. Grok is on it. Solved in 2 months. Question— does Grok know Assembly language?)

There's knowing Assembler, knowing why the Assembler's doing what it's doing, and knowing what it should be doing given new business processes and modern software architecture... Other LLMs can't handle the first... So...

I’ll finish the sentence. Let’s all hope that Elmo loses interest in “modernizing” SSA’s systems and that the hamsters don’t die.

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“Most transparent administration ever” lol

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
DOGE could hire experienced people, but it wants newbies without the experience to see how wrong what they are doing is.

Has everyone forgotten the Bret Baier interview. There are lots of senior executives on DOGE.

Are there still? Because if I was a “senior executive on DOGE,” I’d be running away— fast. Even Elmo is fleeing.

There are. They’re in Deputy positions and CIO positions, see Thomas Shedd.

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I am curious how much DOGE is willing to break until mid terms. It’s going to get intense.

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Anonymous wrote:I am curious how much DOGE is willing to break until mid terms. It’s going to get intense.

I hope a lot more gets broken given the rampant theft, grift and corruption that's been going on.

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Consider what we’ve learned about the U.S. Institute for Peace, which DOGE took over for a while before being forced by the courts to give up control. Returning workers reportedly

found the office full of cockroaches and rodents, with leftover marijuana and empty beer bottles strewn about.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/us/politics/2025/06/05/doge-workers-left-usip-office-marijuana-cockroaches/?utm_source=substack&utm_medium=email