1 week old newborn with silent reflux?

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Anonymous wrote:Could be gas, could be overtired, could be reflux.. any chance you have a fast let down? When I have over supply my baby has those symptoms ( 10 weeks old but your description could describe our night tonight)

OP’s wife here — yes, I’m pretty sure I have a very strong let down (milk literally pours from them by just bending over) — any recs?

I have to get a little out with a haaka first or switch position- for newborn I'd do football hold. Poor baby screams when I have fast let down- I tried side lying and that still sprayed all over her face intensely but the laid back position helped.

My first kid had horrible screaming/colic /reflux and they told me to avoid dairy/soy and give famotodine- truth is it was still awful for months and I held her upright as the only way she slept. I always wonder if the restricted diet was really needed given it didn't solve the issue- don't do that without a stool test, babies are hard enough without it

I don’t think it’s a big deal to do the diet for a week and see if it works.

Except it takes about two weeks for dairy to work its way out of your system. And presumably the same amount of time for other allergens as well. “Going off dairy” isn’t as easy as it sounds — many margarines still have traces of milk. As do pasta sauces and all sorts of unlikely other foods. And if the culprit is soy, or egg, or wheat, or nuts, or some combo, just eliminating one allergen isn’t going to help. (And trust me, you don’t want to do an elimination diet if you don’t have to.)

- Signed,
BF mom whose kid started screaming bloody murder at two weeks, had eczema at 4 weeks, went “off dairy” — but did it wrong — at 8 weeks. and was ultimately diagnosed with multiple food allergies at 9 mos. when we finally saw an allergist instead of continuing to follow guidance from our pediatrician.

Yes, I’m aware. I did dairy free for myself for a year then both kids needed to be dairy free til age 2 due to the milk allergy. I also did elimination of all allergens plus corn upon pediatrician recommendation, for a short time. It’s not easy, but it was way easier than having sick children. I’d take the diet any day. Yes there could be other allergies present, but milk is statistically a good first try before going extreme.

The two weeks thing is not true for most. Most babies will see improvement within a couple days, although it will continue to get better as they heal. But most people see positive signs very quickly and it will motivate them to continue.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Could be gas, could be overtired, could be reflux.. any chance you have a fast let down? When I have over supply my baby has those symptoms ( 10 weeks old but your description could describe our night tonight)

OP’s wife here — yes, I’m pretty sure I have a very strong let down (milk literally pours from them by just bending over) — any recs?

I have to get a little out with a haaka first or switch position- for newborn I'd do football hold. Poor baby screams when I have fast let down- I tried side lying and that still sprayed all over her face intensely but the laid back position helped.

My first kid had horrible screaming/colic /reflux and they told me to avoid dairy/soy and give famotodine- truth is it was still awful for months and I held her upright as the only way she slept. I always wonder if the restricted diet was really needed given it didn't solve the issue- don't do that without a stool test, babies are hard enough without it

Definitely recommend the stool card. But also I don’t think it’s a big deal to do the diet for a week and see if it works. Allergy is the most likely cause and I’d much rather be hungry than hear screaming, personally! If it doesn’t work, then stop.

Agreed if there's plan to stop. I did it for 10 months while already on a gf diet due to celiac and breastfeeding already made me starving so cutting so much was rough. Pediatrician said to keep cutting it with no evidence of improvement and no stool test but the screaming was so horrible I was willing to do anything....I tried cutting even more with no luck

Agreed, if no improvement try something else!!!

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Anonymous wrote:Could be gas, could be overtired, could be reflux.. any chance you have a fast let down? When I have over supply my baby has those symptoms ( 10 weeks old but your description could describe our night tonight)

OP’s wife here — yes, I’m pretty sure I have a very strong let down (milk literally pours from them by just bending over) — any recs?

I have to get a little out with a haaka first or switch position- for newborn I'd do football hold. Poor baby screams when I have fast let down- I tried side lying and that still sprayed all over her face intensely but the laid back position helped.

My first kid had horrible screaming/colic /reflux and they told me to avoid dairy/soy and give famotodine- truth is it was still awful for months and I held her upright as the only way she slept. I always wonder if the restricted diet was really needed given it didn't solve the issue- don't do that without a stool test, babies are hard enough without it

I don’t think it’s a big deal to do the diet for a week and see if it works.

Except it takes about two weeks for dairy to work its way out of your system. And presumably the same amount of time for other allergens as well. “Going off dairy” isn’t as easy as it sounds — many margarines still have traces of milk. As do pasta sauces and all sorts of unlikely other foods. And if the culprit is soy, or egg, or wheat, or nuts, or some combo, just eliminating one allergen isn’t going to help. (And trust me, you don’t want to do an elimination diet if you don’t have to.)

- Signed,
BF mom whose kid started screaming bloody murder at two weeks, had eczema at 4 weeks, went “off dairy” — but did it wrong — at 8 weeks. and was ultimately diagnosed with multiple food allergies at 9 mos. when we finally saw an allergist instead of continuing to follow guidance from our pediatrician.

Yes, I’m aware. I did dairy free for myself for a year then both kids needed to be dairy free til age 2 due to the milk allergy. I also did elimination of all allergens plus corn upon pediatrician recommendation, for a short time. It’s not easy, but it was way easier than having sick children. I’d take the diet any day. Yes there could be other allergies present, but milk is statistically a good first try before going extreme.

The two weeks thing is not true for most. Most babies will see improvement within a couple days, although it will continue to get better as they heal. But most people see positive signs very quickly and it will motivate them to continue.

Agree, it really doesn’t hurt to try to see if there are improvements.

[Anonymous]

OP here. Just wanted to say sincere thanks for everyone's experiences, thoughts, and advice. It truly helps just hearing about others going through similar situations.

Last night was MUCH better and he slept so well. Fingers crossed that the other night was just an outlier, but we're more prepared now either way.

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The best metaphor I've ever seen for these first couple weeks is that it's kind of like that episode of Battlestar Galactica where the Cylons attack them every 30 minutes. You're just so busy dealing with the cycle and so tired it messes with your brain. You get the kid fed cleaned and set and the whole cycle starts over again in an hour.

[Anonymous]

Great news OP!

Enjoy your newborn

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The best metaphor I've ever seen for these first couple weeks is that it's kind of like that episode of Battlestar Galactica where the Cylons attack them every 30 minutes. You're just so busy dealing with the cycle and so tired it messes with your brain. You get the kid fed cleaned and set and the whole cycle starts over again in an hour.

OMG


I used that analogy during my kid's newborn phase. I thought it was just the sleep deprivation that made me think that.