1550 SAT is not required for Ivy admission

[Anonymous]

Sure for ALDC and URM with trauma porn stories.

[Anonymous]

This kid was FGLI from a very low-income and disadvantaged area. Every college is literally jumping through hoops to find and admit these kids. He deserves his admissions and I'm sure he's smart, but an UMC kid from Bethesda or Fairfax County has zero shot at an Ivy with that resume.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:People are just jealous accept it and move on that Newark student accomplished a lot and deserved the acceptances.

Not jealous in the least...I think it is great for him! I think it is also fine to post about him or others with similar stats and hooks on places like this. What I object to is someone posting a snippet of his story with the clickbait title that this one has. There is zero shame in using all advantages that are available...they should be used and I am glad it worked for this kid!

Saying John Doe got into Yale with a 1310 SAT so don't be thinking it isn't possible is very different from saying John Doe got into Yale with a 1310 SAT and he is FGLI/from a rural unrepresented area/a recruited athlete/the kid of a famous rich person/etc.

Idiotic thing to write. Do you expect posters to fit the entire story in the thread title ?

You're right. It would far too hard to write something like: "FGLI admitted to all ivies with a 1400s SAT" or "Newark FGLI admitted to all ivies" or even "FGLI admitted to all ivies."

The point is not for you to copy his story, right? That certainly wouldn’t work. Your DC have to work on his own unique narrative. The point is exactly what the title says.

If the title says “FGLI admitted to all ivies”, that would be a clickbait.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:People are just jealous accept it and move on that Newark student accomplished a lot and deserved the acceptances.

Not jealous in the least...I think it is great for him! I think it is also fine to post about him or others with similar stats and hooks on places like this. What I object to is someone posting a snippet of his story with the clickbait title that this one has. There is zero shame in using all advantages that are available...they should be used and I am glad it worked for this kid!

Saying John Doe got into Yale with a 1310 SAT so don't be thinking it isn't possible is very different from saying John Doe got into Yale with a 1310 SAT and he is FGLI/from a rural unrepresented area/a recruited athlete/the kid of a famous rich person/etc.

Idiotic thing to write. Do you expect posters to fit the entire story in the thread title ?

You're right. It would far too hard to write something like: "FGLI admitted to all ivies with a 1400s SAT" or "Newark FGLI admitted to all ivies" or even "FGLI admitted to all ivies."

The point is not for you to copy his story, right? That certainly wouldn’t work. Your DC have to work on his own unique narrative. The point is exactly what the title says.

If the title says “FGLI admitted to all ivies”, that would be a clickbait.

Your response above shows you are still confused. Almost every other responder has pointed out his hooks (geographic location, his profile compared to his local peers, FGLI, minority, etc status) and yet you still can’t acknowledge that critical info was missing from the original post. Are you OP?

As for the bolded, YOU are missing the issue: no one from an high achieving area can copy his story. The title remains misleading without adding “For hooked students…” into it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This kid was FGLI from a very low-income and disadvantaged area. Every college is literally jumping through hoops to find and admit these kids. He deserves his admissions and I'm sure he's smart, but an UMC kid from Bethesda or Fairfax County has zero shot at an Ivy with that resume.

But a higher test score won’t improve those odds, focus elsewhere.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:People are just jealous accept it and move on that Newark student accomplished a lot and deserved the acceptances.

Not jealous in the least...I think it is great for him! I think it is also fine to post about him or others with similar stats and hooks on places like this. What I object to is someone posting a snippet of his story with the clickbait title that this one has. There is zero shame in using all advantages that are available...they should be used and I am glad it worked for this kid!

Saying John Doe got into Yale with a 1310 SAT so don't be thinking it isn't possible is very different from saying John Doe got into Yale with a 1310 SAT and he is FGLI/from a rural unrepresented area/a recruited athlete/the kid of a famous rich person/etc.

Idiotic thing to write. Do you expect posters to fit the entire story in the thread title ?

You're right. It would far too hard to write something like: "FGLI admitted to all ivies with a 1400s SAT" or "Newark FGLI admitted to all ivies" or even "FGLI admitted to all ivies."

The point is not for you to copy his story, right? That certainly wouldn’t work. Your DC have to work on his own unique narrative. The point is exactly what the title says.

If the title says “FGLI admitted to all ivies”, that would be a clickbait.

Your response above shows you are still confused. Almost every other responder has pointed out his hooks (geographic location, his profile compared to his local peers, FGLI, minority, etc status) and yet you still can’t acknowledge that critical info was missing from the original post. Are you OP?

As for the bolded, YOU are missing the issue: no one from an high achieving area can copy his story. The title remains misleading without adding “For hooked students…” into it.

When you don’t have a hook, you work on a narrative in lieu of a hook? I thought that was the point, and wisdom of dcum.

So many have tried high test scores but that doesn’t help. It’s not constructive even misleading to ask people focus on test scores. The title highlights this point.

And many posters in this thread stated they got in top schools with 1500, collaborating the point.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:People are just jealous accept it and move on that Newark student accomplished a lot and deserved the acceptances.

Not jealous in the least...I think it is great for him! I think it is also fine to post about him or others with similar stats and hooks on places like this. What I object to is someone posting a snippet of his story with the clickbait title that this one has. There is zero shame in using all advantages that are available...they should be used and I am glad it worked for this kid!

Saying John Doe got into Yale with a 1310 SAT so don't be thinking it isn't possible is very different from saying John Doe got into Yale with a 1310 SAT and he is FGLI/from a rural unrepresented area/a recruited athlete/the kid of a famous rich person/etc.

Idiotic thing to write. Do you expect posters to fit the entire story in the thread title ?

You're right. It would far too hard to write something like: "FGLI admitted to all ivies with a 1400s SAT" or "Newark FGLI admitted to all ivies" or even "FGLI admitted to all ivies."

The point is not for you to copy his story, right? That certainly wouldn’t work. Your DC have to work on his own unique narrative. The point is exactly what the title says.

If the title says “FGLI admitted to all ivies”, that would be a clickbait.

Your response above shows you are still confused. Almost every other responder has pointed out his hooks (geographic location, his profile compared to his local peers, FGLI, minority, etc status) and yet you still can’t acknowledge that critical info was missing from the original post. Are you OP?

As for the bolded, YOU are missing the issue: no one from an high achieving area can copy his story. The title remains misleading without adding “For hooked students…” into it.

When you don’t have a hook, you work on a narrative in lieu of a hook? I thought that was the point, and wisdom of dcum.

So many have tried high test scores but that doesn’t help. It’s not constructive even misleading to ask people focus on test scores. The title highlights this point.

And many posters in this thread stated they got in top schools with 1500, collaborating the point.

Hi OP,
You're still confused and that is okay. I'll try one last time but this is it:

1. You said as long as you meet a certain threshold, the rest of your app gets consideration.

2. Proof of that, is a test score in the 1400s is enough to get into every ivy, and look! Here's someone who just did this.

3. You're missing the part that a kid with an identical GPA, identical test score, and identical ECs would NOT be getting a second look from the ivies without the hooks that the kid you're pointing to has. Anyone can read this link and see that Harvard's scores used to be b/w a 31-36 ACT, with the 31 being in the 10%. You're clueless if you think a 31 without a hook is getting your app through a threshold that you think exists simply because this is published data: https://college.harvard.edu/resources/faq/do-i-need-minimum-required-sat-or-act-score There is no overall threshold HOWEVER, the less of a hooked applicant you are, the better you need to shine in every area. The reverse of this is 100% true.

You're the only one arguing your point. Give it a rest. You're wrong.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:People are just jealous accept it and move on that Newark student accomplished a lot and deserved the acceptances.

Not jealous in the least...I think it is great for him! I think it is also fine to post about him or others with similar stats and hooks on places like this. What I object to is someone posting a snippet of his story with the clickbait title that this one has. There is zero shame in using all advantages that are available...they should be used and I am glad it worked for this kid!

Saying John Doe got into Yale with a 1310 SAT so don't be thinking it isn't possible is very different from saying John Doe got into Yale with a 1310 SAT and he is FGLI/from a rural unrepresented area/a recruited athlete/the kid of a famous rich person/etc.

Idiotic thing to write. Do you expect posters to fit the entire story in the thread title ?

You're right. It would far too hard to write something like: "FGLI admitted to all ivies with a 1400s SAT" or "Newark FGLI admitted to all ivies" or even "FGLI admitted to all ivies."

The point is not for you to copy his story, right? That certainly wouldn’t work. Your DC have to work on his own unique narrative. The point is exactly what the title says.

If the title says “FGLI admitted to all ivies”, that would be a clickbait.

Your response above shows you are still confused. Almost every other responder has pointed out his hooks (geographic location, his profile compared to his local peers, FGLI, minority, etc status) and yet you still can’t acknowledge that critical info was missing from the original post. Are you OP?

As for the bolded, YOU are missing the issue: no one from an high achieving area can copy his story. The title remains misleading without adding “For hooked students…” into it.

When you don’t have a hook, you work on a narrative in lieu of a hook? I thought that was the point, and wisdom of dcum.

So many have tried high test scores but that doesn’t help. It’s not constructive even misleading to ask people focus on test scores. The title highlights this point.

And many posters in this thread stated they got in top schools with 1500, collaborating the point.

Hi OP,
You're still confused and that is okay. I'll try one last time but this is it:

1. You said as long as you meet a certain threshold, the rest of your app gets consideration.

2. Proof of that, is a test score in the 1400s is enough to get into every ivy, and look! Here's someone who just did this.

3. You're missing the part that a kid with an identical GPA, identical test score, and identical ECs would NOT be getting a second look from the ivies without the hooks that the kid you're pointing to has. Anyone can read this link and see that Harvard's scores used to be b/w a 31-36 ACT, with the 31 being in the 10%. You're clueless if you think a 31 without a hook is getting your app through a threshold that you think exists simply because this is published data: https://college.harvard.edu/resources/faq/do-i-need-minimum-required-sat-or-act-score There is no overall threshold HOWEVER, the less of a hooked applicant you are, the better you need to shine in every area. The reverse of this is 100% true.

You're the only one arguing your point. Give it a rest. You're wrong.

Most applicants do not have a hook, I don’t think there’s a continuum.

You are conflating multiple things together. While the threshold exists, it obviously isn’t going to be 31 or 1310. You keep picking the very low end of z-list applicant scores. I think most people would agree 1500 makes it over the threshold for unhooked applicants.

It’s more important to work on your narrative than improving your score by 20 points. In a sense, that is your hook.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:People are just jealous accept it and move on that Newark student accomplished a lot and deserved the acceptances.

Not jealous in the least...I think it is great for him! I think it is also fine to post about him or others with similar stats and hooks on places like this. What I object to is someone posting a snippet of his story with the clickbait title that this one has. There is zero shame in using all advantages that are available...they should be used and I am glad it worked for this kid!

Saying John Doe got into Yale with a 1310 SAT so don't be thinking it isn't possible is very different from saying John Doe got into Yale with a 1310 SAT and he is FGLI/from a rural unrepresented area/a recruited athlete/the kid of a famous rich person/etc.

Idiotic thing to write. Do you expect posters to fit the entire story in the thread title ?

You're right. It would far too hard to write something like: "FGLI admitted to all ivies with a 1400s SAT" or "Newark FGLI admitted to all ivies" or even "FGLI admitted to all ivies."

The point is not for you to copy his story, right? That certainly wouldn’t work. Your DC have to work on his own unique narrative. The point is exactly what the title says.

If the title says “FGLI admitted to all ivies”, that would be a clickbait.

Your response above shows you are still confused. Almost every other responder has pointed out his hooks (geographic location, his profile compared to his local peers, FGLI, minority, etc status) and yet you still can’t acknowledge that critical info was missing from the original post. Are you OP?

As for the bolded, YOU are missing the issue: no one from an high achieving area can copy his story. The title remains misleading without adding “For hooked students…” into it.

When you don’t have a hook, you work on a narrative in lieu of a hook? I thought that was the point, and wisdom of dcum.

So many have tried high test scores but that doesn’t help. It’s not constructive even misleading to ask people focus on test scores. The title highlights this point.

And many posters in this thread stated they got in top schools with 1500, collaborating the point.

Hi OP,
You're still confused and that is okay. I'll try one last time but this is it:

1. You said as long as you meet a certain threshold, the rest of your app gets consideration.

2. Proof of that, is a test score in the 1400s is enough to get into every ivy, and look! Here's someone who just did this.

3. You're missing the part that a kid with an identical GPA, identical test score, and identical ECs would NOT be getting a second look from the ivies without the hooks that the kid you're pointing to has. Anyone can read this link and see that Harvard's scores used to be b/w a 31-36 ACT, with the 31 being in the 10%. You're clueless if you think a 31 without a hook is getting your app through a threshold that you think exists simply because this is published data: https://college.harvard.edu/resources/faq/do-i-need-minimum-required-sat-or-act-score There is no overall threshold HOWEVER, the less of a hooked applicant you are, the better you need to shine in every area. The reverse of this is 100% true.

You're the only one arguing your point. Give it a rest. You're wrong.

Most applicants do not have a hook, I don’t think there’s a continuum.

You are conflating multiple things together. While the threshold exists, it obviously isn’t going to be 31 or 1310. You keep picking the very low end of z-list applicant scores. I think most people would agree 1500 makes it over the threshold for unhooked applicants.

It’s more important to work on your narrative than improving your score by 20 points. In a sense, that is your hook.

🤫

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:People are just jealous accept it and move on that Newark student accomplished a lot and deserved the acceptances.

Not jealous in the least...I think it is great for him! I think it is also fine to post about him or others with similar stats and hooks on places like this. What I object to is someone posting a snippet of his story with the clickbait title that this one has. There is zero shame in using all advantages that are available...they should be used and I am glad it worked for this kid!

Saying John Doe got into Yale with a 1310 SAT so don't be thinking it isn't possible is very different from saying John Doe got into Yale with a 1310 SAT and he is FGLI/from a rural unrepresented area/a recruited athlete/the kid of a famous rich person/etc.

Idiotic thing to write. Do you expect posters to fit the entire story in the thread title ?

You're right. It would far too hard to write something like: "FGLI admitted to all ivies with a 1400s SAT" or "Newark FGLI admitted to all ivies" or even "FGLI admitted to all ivies."

The point is not for you to copy his story, right? That certainly wouldn’t work. Your DC have to work on his own unique narrative. The point is exactly what the title says.

If the title says “FGLI admitted to all ivies”, that would be a clickbait.

Your response above shows you are still confused. Almost every other responder has pointed out his hooks (geographic location, his profile compared to his local peers, FGLI, minority, etc status) and yet you still can’t acknowledge that critical info was missing from the original post. Are you OP?

As for the bolded, YOU are missing the issue: no one from an high achieving area can copy his story. The title remains misleading without adding “For hooked students…” into it.

When you don’t have a hook, you work on a narrative in lieu of a hook? I thought that was the point, and wisdom of dcum.

So many have tried high test scores but that doesn’t help. It’s not constructive even misleading to ask people focus on test scores. The title highlights this point.

And many posters in this thread stated they got in top schools with 1500, collaborating the point.

Hi OP,
You're still confused and that is okay. I'll try one last time but this is it:

1. You said as long as you meet a certain threshold, the rest of your app gets consideration.

2. Proof of that, is a test score in the 1400s is enough to get into every ivy, and look! Here's someone who just did this.

3. You're missing the part that a kid with an identical GPA, identical test score, and identical ECs would NOT be getting a second look from the ivies without the hooks that the kid you're pointing to has. Anyone can read this link and see that Harvard's scores used to be b/w a 31-36 ACT, with the 31 being in the 10%. You're clueless if you think a 31 without a hook is getting your app through a threshold that you think exists simply because this is published data: https://college.harvard.edu/resources/faq/do-i-need-minimum-required-sat-or-act-score There is no overall threshold HOWEVER, the less of a hooked applicant you are, the better you need to shine in every area. The reverse of this is 100% true.

You're the only one arguing your point. Give it a rest. You're wrong.

Most applicants do not have a hook, I don’t think there’s a continuum.

You are conflating multiple things together. While the threshold exists, it obviously isn’t going to be 31 or 1310. You keep picking the very low end of z-list applicant scores. I think most people would agree 1500 makes it over the threshold for unhooked applicants.

It’s more important to work on your narrative than improving your score by 20 points. In a sense, that is your hook.

Np here.
This was the case for my private HS kid. Wasn't getting higher than 32 super score due to a lower math score, although 36/35 in two other sections.
Ended up TO, strong and compelling narrative that flowed from ECs to essays to LOR to future plans (national EC awards tied to niche major and a really unique story), humanities major.
In at three T20 and WL at one. Good cycle and best use of time to walk away from the test prep.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:People are just jealous accept it and move on that Newark student accomplished a lot and deserved the acceptances.

Not jealous in the least...I think it is great for him! I think it is also fine to post about him or others with similar stats and hooks on places like this. What I object to is someone posting a snippet of his story with the clickbait title that this one has. There is zero shame in using all advantages that are available...they should be used and I am glad it worked for this kid!

Saying John Doe got into Yale with a 1310 SAT so don't be thinking it isn't possible is very different from saying John Doe got into Yale with a 1310 SAT and he is FGLI/from a rural unrepresented area/a recruited athlete/the kid of a famous rich person/etc.

Idiotic thing to write. Do you expect posters to fit the entire story in the thread title ?

You're right. It would far too hard to write something like: "FGLI admitted to all ivies with a 1400s SAT" or "Newark FGLI admitted to all ivies" or even "FGLI admitted to all ivies."

The point is not for you to copy his story, right? That certainly wouldn’t work. Your DC have to work on his own unique narrative. The point is exactly what the title says.

If the title says “FGLI admitted to all ivies”, that would be a clickbait.

Your response above shows you are still confused. Almost every other responder has pointed out his hooks (geographic location, his profile compared to his local peers, FGLI, minority, etc status) and yet you still can’t acknowledge that critical info was missing from the original post. Are you OP?

As for the bolded, YOU are missing the issue: no one from an high achieving area can copy his story. The title remains misleading without adding “For hooked students…” into it.

When you don’t have a hook, you work on a narrative in lieu of a hook? I thought that was the point, and wisdom of dcum.

So many have tried high test scores but that doesn’t help. It’s not constructive even misleading to ask people focus on test scores. The title highlights this point.

And many posters in this thread stated they got in top schools with 1500, collaborating the point.

Hi OP,
You're still confused and that is okay. I'll try one last time but this is it:

1. You said as long as you meet a certain threshold, the rest of your app gets consideration.

2. Proof of that, is a test score in the 1400s is enough to get into every ivy, and look! Here's someone who just did this.

3. You're missing the part that a kid with an identical GPA, identical test score, and identical ECs would NOT be getting a second look from the ivies without the hooks that the kid you're pointing to has. Anyone can read this link and see that Harvard's scores used to be b/w a 31-36 ACT, with the 31 being in the 10%. You're clueless if you think a 31 without a hook is getting your app through a threshold that you think exists simply because this is published data: https://college.harvard.edu/resources/faq/do-i-need-minimum-required-sat-or-act-score There is no overall threshold HOWEVER, the less of a hooked applicant you are, the better you need to shine in every area. The reverse of this is 100% true.

You're the only one arguing your point. Give it a rest. You're wrong.

Most applicants do not have a hook, I don’t think there’s a continuum.

You are conflating multiple things together. While the threshold exists, it obviously isn’t going to be 31 or 1310. You keep picking the very low end of z-list applicant scores. I think most people would agree 1500 makes it over the threshold for unhooked applicants.

It’s more important to work on your narrative than improving your score by 20 points. In a sense, that is your hook.

Np here.
This was the case for my private HS kid. Wasn't getting higher than 32 super score due to a lower math score, although 36/35 in two other sections.
Ended up TO, strong and compelling narrative that flowed from ECs to essays to LOR to future plans (national EC awards tied to niche major and a really unique story), humanities major.
In at three T20 and WL at one. Good cycle and best use of time to walk away from the test prep.

The kid in OP’s article was not TO at most of those schools. Not the same.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:People are just jealous accept it and move on that Newark student accomplished a lot and deserved the acceptances.

Not jealous in the least...I think it is great for him! I think it is also fine to post about him or others with similar stats and hooks on places like this. What I object to is someone posting a snippet of his story with the clickbait title that this one has. There is zero shame in using all advantages that are available...they should be used and I am glad it worked for this kid!

Saying John Doe got into Yale with a 1310 SAT so don't be thinking it isn't possible is very different from saying John Doe got into Yale with a 1310 SAT and he is FGLI/from a rural unrepresented area/a recruited athlete/the kid of a famous rich person/etc.

Idiotic thing to write. Do you expect posters to fit the entire story in the thread title ?

You're right. It would far too hard to write something like: "FGLI admitted to all ivies with a 1400s SAT" or "Newark FGLI admitted to all ivies" or even "FGLI admitted to all ivies."

The point is not for you to copy his story, right? That certainly wouldn’t work. Your DC have to work on his own unique narrative. The point is exactly what the title says.

If the title says “FGLI admitted to all ivies”, that would be a clickbait.

Your response above shows you are still confused. Almost every other responder has pointed out his hooks (geographic location, his profile compared to his local peers, FGLI, minority, etc status) and yet you still can’t acknowledge that critical info was missing from the original post. Are you OP?

As for the bolded, YOU are missing the issue: no one from an high achieving area can copy his story. The title remains misleading without adding “For hooked students…” into it.

When you don’t have a hook, you work on a narrative in lieu of a hook? I thought that was the point, and wisdom of dcum.

So many have tried high test scores but that doesn’t help. It’s not constructive even misleading to ask people focus on test scores. The title highlights this point.

And many posters in this thread stated they got in top schools with 1500, collaborating the point.

Hi OP,
You're still confused and that is okay. I'll try one last time but this is it:

1. You said as long as you meet a certain threshold, the rest of your app gets consideration.

2. Proof of that, is a test score in the 1400s is enough to get into every ivy, and look! Here's someone who just did this.

3. You're missing the part that a kid with an identical GPA, identical test score, and identical ECs would NOT be getting a second look from the ivies without the hooks that the kid you're pointing to has. Anyone can read this link and see that Harvard's scores used to be b/w a 31-36 ACT, with the 31 being in the 10%. You're clueless if you think a 31 without a hook is getting your app through a threshold that you think exists simply because this is published data: https://college.harvard.edu/resources/faq/do-i-need-minimum-required-sat-or-act-score There is no overall threshold HOWEVER, the less of a hooked applicant you are, the better you need to shine in every area. The reverse of this is 100% true.

You're the only one arguing your point. Give it a rest. You're wrong.

Most applicants do not have a hook, I don’t think there’s a continuum.

You are conflating multiple things together. While the threshold exists, it obviously isn’t going to be 31 or 1310. You keep picking the very low end of z-list applicant scores. I think most people would agree 1500 makes it over the threshold for unhooked applicants.

It’s more important to work on your narrative than improving your score by 20 points. In a sense, that is your hook.

Np here.
This was the case for my private HS kid. Wasn't getting higher than 32 super score due to a lower math score, although 36/35 in two other sections.
Ended up TO, strong and compelling narrative that flowed from ECs to essays to LOR to future plans (national EC awards tied to niche major and a really unique story), humanities major.
In at three T20 and WL at one. Good cycle and best use of time to walk away from the test prep.

The kid in OP’s article was not TO at most of those schools. Not the same.

I was saying I agree "its more important to work on your narrative" than improving a test score if that is your only hook.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:As long as you meet the threshold, other parts of your application come into play.
A good example this year:
https://nypost.com/2025/04/15/us-news/nj-high-school-senior-accepted-to-7-ivy-league-colleges-im-still-processing-it/

Arts High School in Newark.
Stats: 1480 on his SATs and 34 on the ACTs
Acceptance from Yale, Harvard, Princeton, Columbia and Brown, the University of Pennsylvania and Dartmouth College.

They want money. Lowering standards = more enrollments.

Universities are in the business of making money.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:As long as you meet the threshold, other parts of your application come into play.
A good example this year:
https://nypost.com/2025/04/15/us-news/nj-high-school-senior-accepted-to-7-ivy-league-colleges-im-still-processing-it/

Arts High School in Newark.
Stats: 1480 on his SATs and 34 on the ACTs
Acceptance from Yale, Harvard, Princeton, Columbia and Brown, the University of Pennsylvania and Dartmouth College.

They want money. Lowering standards = more enrollments.

Universities are in the business of making money.

Huh? This kid was likely a full aid (FGLI) admit who is the child of immigrants who own two pizzerias. How are they getting "more money"?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:People are just jealous accept it and move on that Newark student accomplished a lot and deserved the acceptances.

Not jealous in the least...I think it is great for him! I think it is also fine to post about him or others with similar stats and hooks on places like this. What I object to is someone posting a snippet of his story with the clickbait title that this one has. There is zero shame in using all advantages that are available...they should be used and I am glad it worked for this kid!

Saying John Doe got into Yale with a 1310 SAT so don't be thinking it isn't possible is very different from saying John Doe got into Yale with a 1310 SAT and he is FGLI/from a rural unrepresented area/a recruited athlete/the kid of a famous rich person/etc.

Idiotic thing to write. Do you expect posters to fit the entire story in the thread title ?

You're right. It would far too hard to write something like: "FGLI admitted to all ivies with a 1400s SAT" or "Newark FGLI admitted to all ivies" or even "FGLI admitted to all ivies."

The point is not for you to copy his story, right? That certainly wouldn’t work. Your DC have to work on his own unique narrative. The point is exactly what the title says.

If the title says “FGLI admitted to all ivies”, that would be a clickbait.

Your response above shows you are still confused. Almost every other responder has pointed out his hooks (geographic location, his profile compared to his local peers, FGLI, minority, etc status) and yet you still can’t acknowledge that critical info was missing from the original post. Are you OP?

As for the bolded, YOU are missing the issue: no one from an high achieving area can copy his story. The title remains misleading without adding “For hooked students…” into it.

When you don’t have a hook, you work on a narrative in lieu of a hook? I thought that was the point, and wisdom of dcum.

So many have tried high test scores but that doesn’t help. It’s not constructive even misleading to ask people focus on test scores. The title highlights this point.

And many posters in this thread stated they got in top schools with 1500, collaborating the point.

Hi OP,
You're still confused and that is okay. I'll try one last time but this is it:

1. You said as long as you meet a certain threshold, the rest of your app gets consideration.

2. Proof of that, is a test score in the 1400s is enough to get into every ivy, and look! Here's someone who just did this.

3. You're missing the part that a kid with an identical GPA, identical test score, and identical ECs would NOT be getting a second look from the ivies without the hooks that the kid you're pointing to has. Anyone can read this link and see that Harvard's scores used to be b/w a 31-36 ACT, with the 31 being in the 10%. You're clueless if you think a 31 without a hook is getting your app through a threshold that you think exists simply because this is published data: https://college.harvard.edu/resources/faq/do-i-need-minimum-required-sat-or-act-score There is no overall threshold HOWEVER, the less of a hooked applicant you are, the better you need to shine in every area. The reverse of this is 100% true.

You're the only one arguing your point. Give it a rest. You're wrong.

Most applicants do not have a hook, I don’t think there’s a continuum.

You are conflating multiple things together. While the threshold exists, it obviously isn’t going to be 31 or 1310. You keep picking the very low end of z-list applicant scores. I think most people would agree 1500 makes it over the threshold for unhooked applicants.

It’s more important to work on your narrative than improving your score by 20 points. In a sense, that is your hook.

Np here.
This was the case for my private HS kid. Wasn't getting higher than 32 super score due to a lower math score, although 36/35 in two other sections.
Ended up TO, strong and compelling narrative that flowed from ECs to essays to LOR to future plans (national EC awards tied to niche major and a really unique story), humanities major.
In at three T20 and WL at one. Good cycle and best use of time to walk away from the test prep.

The kid in OP’s article was not TO at most of those schools. Not the same.

I was saying I agree "its more important to work on your narrative" than improving a test score if that is your only hook.

A narrative is not a hook.