It’s true — youth sports has a lot less control in place. |
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We live in McLean. We have had a two Asian troop leaders, one Indian and one Asian. Our current Girl Scouts troop is about 25% Asian. I have seen a majority Girl Scouts troop on zoom where both leaders were Asian and photo of troop was majority Asian. |
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To get to be an Eagle Scout is very impressive. I’m not sure where this “cool” or “sporty” obsession comes from. Eagle Scouts as a whole are much more successful in life than someone cool who played baseball as a kid
Here are some billionaire CEOs who made it all the way to Eagle Scouts… Steven Spielberg -- Founder of Dreamworks Stephen Bechtel, Jr. -- Co-Owner of the Bechtel Corporation Charles F. Dolan -- Founder of HBO and Cablevision Michael Bloomberg -- Mayor of New York City Bill Gates -- Co-Founder of Microsoft Rex Tillerson -- CEO of Exxon Mobil Hank Paulson -- CEO of Goldman Sachs J.W. Marriott Jr. -- CEO of Marriott Walter Scott Jr. -- Former CEO of Peter Kiewit John Edward Anderson -- CEO of Topa Equities H. Ross Perot -- Founder of Perot Systems And there are plenty of successful non-billionaires who were Eagle Scouts. Cool gets you nowhere so who cares? |
We used to live by a military base and the dads and kids were athletic. Camping, fishing, archery, building fires, etc were all cool for my boys. We now live in McLean. Each grade level has different boys but every troop my three kids have been in have had athletic kids. My kids are all athletic as were many of their friends. My boys did not move on to Boy Scouts because they were too busy with sports, but those elementary Cub Scout years were a great time. |
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Pp here. I just reread your post. I’m not sure what you mean by cool. Scouts is very American. I grew up as an Asian minority and always was curious about Girl Scouts. At our elementary school, many girls are Girl Scouts. The demographics of the troops is very representative of our elementary school.
Most kids seem to drop out by the time they are in upper elementary/middle school due to other commitments. |
| NP - DS is in Scouts in 6th grade, I have just started realizing how the time commitment looks and we sat down to work backwards for him to get Eagle around 9th grade. I basically told him that he needs to be done by then because so many other things will take priority. For him, he is sporty and involved in multiple sports. There is no problem in missing meetings, honestly it seems like the only reason to go is to get things signed off. His meetings are on Mondays, so he will work Sunday night on several things to get them signed on Monday. He probably does 70% of camping weekends and has had to go late or leave early because of other commitments. His troop is almost all white, but so is our town. We have just added a girls troop, which actually now has more members than the boys side. All in all it's been a good experience and not uncool where we are at least. |
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If your kid is well liked and popular, your child will be liked. The activity and sports he does should not matter. Every neighborhood and school is different.
I grew up in an area where girl scouts and cub scouts was common as was soccer, lacrosse, field hockey, football, etc. it was very “American” and mostly white. We live in a diverse area and different ethnic groups participate more heavily in different activities. The basketball team has more black kids but there are still white and Asian kids. The science teams are majority Asian. Scouts is mixed race. I don’t think my kids think it is uncool to be a smart kid doing model UN and going to Harvard or Princeton. The dads in scouts are cool in my book. Any dad willing to help all those kids cut their pinewood derby cars is cool to me. Being selfless and in tune with nature is cool. |
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Scouts is cool. Can’t wait to see the all- girl troops we have one but I have not seen them just yet
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Our troop is heavily Asian and Indian, used to be more Caucasian. Kids play sports. Some may be considered cool but most are pretty nerdy.
We also have lots of kids who are ADHD and disruptive. There are lots of Behavioral issues and parents are in denial. Scout Master is challenged. It’s like school. My kid achieved Eagle. One more to go. They enjoy the outdoors and did all the high adventure. It is a good experience. |
Looks and attractiveness may make a troop look cooler. Our school has a dominant Girl Scouts culture. Many girls participate. I guess it is almost like a grade level social group. There are outings, overnight adventures. Girls celebrate birthdays together. Moms (and some dads) are friends. The girls in our troop do dance, sports and good looking. We actually don’t have many/any “nerdy” girls. We do have many girls who do dance and gymnastics. |
| This whole thread is gross. Here we are, all adults discussing the coolness or nerdyness of our children. What the hell is wrong with people? |
Poor behavior was a big problem in our Cub Scout pack. We spoke to a kid once who was behaving really badly and we were then reprimanded by the leader (who we think was actually the father of the boy, although we didn’t know that at the time) that “some kids have disabilities” and so we aren’t allowed to have any expectations around their behavior. (The kid was ripping up others’ stuff and scribbling over their work when they had just put a lot of effort into it. And the father/leader was not supervising his kid closely to ensure that he was respectful, despite apparently knowing that he’s not usually capable of appropriate behavior.) |
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I think the racial question is a real one, and I don't know the answer.
My son is a Boy Scout in a large, well-established troop in a neighborhood where the schools are probably 70% Black or Hispanic. The troop is not entirely white, but overwhelmingly so at all levels, and the entire leadership is white men. I'm not sure where the disconnect is, but it's worth visiting a couple of troops if you are worried about how being a "lonely only" would play out for your kid. |
I am on a first name basis with the owner and several regular patrons at a board game cafe, and I have paid over $50 for a set of metal dice. My child is a nerd, and I can recognize other nerds when I see them. |