working seven days a week, 15 hours a day.

[Anonymous]

Unless you're a doctor, air traffic controllers, or doing some other job with life and catastrophic property harm is at risk, NO ONE has a job where it is important to work 15 hours days, 7 days a week, period. 99% of jobs are mundane garbage that matters very little. If you need to work 15 hours days, it means you suck at your job, or the owners of your company suck because they don't hire enough staff. It's not because you are doing critically important work.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:"Jassy is a creature of habit and tradition to an unusual degree. He meets each of his two kids, a son and a daughter, for breakfast once a week (always independently), on the same day at the same time, and has done so for years... He schedules two hours for himself on his calendar once a week to read (often Amazon-related memos), and on Tuesdays, as he’s done for the past 25 years, he has a date night with his wife, Elana."

This sounds like such a sad existence. I bet they schedule their coitus too.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:"Jassy is a creature of habit and tradition to an unusual degree. He meets each of his two kids, a son and a daughter, for breakfast once a week (always independently), on the same day at the same time, and has done so for years... He schedules two hours for himself on his calendar once a week to read (often Amazon-related memos), and on Tuesdays, as he’s done for the past 25 years, he has a date night with his wife, Elana."

Ah, so he's autistic. But he's probably one of those "there were no autistic people back in my day when I was growing up!" people.

[Anonymous]

I don't know anyone who has lasted more than 3 years at Amazon in any department or capacity.

They burn out very quickly.

I have also heard the vibe is very much 'you're never off work.' So, if something comes up at 7 pm and you are home, it's not illegal for you not to log on and fix it, but it looks bad if you do opt to not "pitch in". And most people do log on and fix whatever it is because they don't want to be seen as not a team player.

A friend even showed me an email from her supervisor that said they couldn't make her log on and check her email each day while she was on vacation, but it would be seen as a big help if she did to keep things flowing cohesively. And then he listed what he did as a routine while on vacation to give her a good example of a smart vacation-work balance. I can't imagine any boss I've ever had, even the worst or most unqualified, ever sending anything like that to me and thinking it was ok to do so.

I hear if you put your foot down and keep a strict work/life balance there, you don't go far and get pushed out very quickly.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I have a friend who's worked there for 15 years and she's toast. She has no life. Her entire life is Amazon. I hate to say it, but I finally lost touch and stopped calling her even on her birthday because the only thing she wanted to/could talk about was Amazon, and I got so sick of hearing it. It's a horrible place. Wonder if she survived this recent lay off.

To survive 15 years you really have to drink the Koolaid and buy into the cult. I made it 3 years. I actually love a lot of the people I worked with, but in an almost Stockholm Syndrome way. Lots of trauma bonding. She's probably pretty high up so likely perpetuates that at this point.

She definitely did, and she is. If she got laid off I'm not sure what she would do (both for work or mental health wise). She has zero[i] life outside of it. I've never seen anything like that before and hope to never again. It's beyond disturbing.

[Anonymous]

It’s an ego and compulsion thing. They desperately need to prove something to their fathers or the girl who rejected them in the 7th grade.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I don't know anyone who has lasted more than 3 years at Amazon in any department or capacity.

They burn out very quickly.

I have also heard the vibe is very much 'you're never off work.' So, if something comes up at 7 pm and you are home, it's not illegal for you not to log on and fix it, but it looks bad if you do opt to not "pitch in". And most people do log on and fix whatever it is because they don't want to be seen as not a team player.

A friend even showed me an email from her supervisor that said they couldn't make her log on and check her email each day while she was on vacation, but it would be seen as a big help if she did to keep things flowing cohesively. And then he listed what he did as a routine while on vacation to give her a good example of a smart vacation-work balance. I can't imagine any boss I've ever had, even the worst or most unqualified, ever sending anything like that to me and thinking it was ok to do so.

I hear if you put your foot down and keep a strict work/life balance there, you don't go far and get pushed out very quickly.

My spouse has lasted much longer than you. It’s supervised and team dependent. Logging on for a few minutes was no big deal when wfh as you have people in other states and countries and you may be the only one who can fix it. With rto, no. Anywhere you work really depends on the team and supervisor.

[Anonymous]

Oh phleeze. Whenever I read about these superstud 130 hour/week Uber humans, you later learn that their work hours include three meals at the office, going to the gym in the middle of the day, etc.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Unless you're a doctor, air traffic controllers, or doing some other job with life and catastrophic property harm is at risk, NO ONE has a job where it is important to work 15 hours days, 7 days a week, period. 99% of jobs are mundane garbage that matters very little. If you need to work 15 hours days, it means you suck at your job, or the owners of your company suck because they don't hire enough staff. It's not because you are doing critically important work.

Or there is a massive face time culture where you have to stretch out tasks.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:"Jassy is a creature of habit and tradition to an unusual degree. He meets each of his two kids, a son and a daughter, for breakfast once a week (always independently), on the same day at the same time, and has done so for years... He schedules two hours for himself on his calendar once a week to read (often Amazon-related memos), and on Tuesdays, as he’s done for the past 25 years, he has a date night with his wife, Elana."

He's still married after 28 years, has a weekly date night with his wife, and has breakfast independently with his two adult children every week. I'd say he's doing better on the homefront than most men.

His wife comforts herself with money and a pool boy. She’s thrilled he’s never home.

Was that implied in the article? Maybe she has her own interests, friends, and hobbies (not including cheating on her spouse of 28 years), and a weekly date night is enough for her after 28 years of marriage.

The marriage works, they both work. Her work is this once a week date night

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Unless you're a doctor, air traffic controllers, or doing some other job with life and catastrophic property harm is at risk, NO ONE has a job where it is important to work 15 hours days, 7 days a week, period. 99% of jobs are mundane garbage that matters very little. If you need to work 15 hours days, it means you suck at your job, or the owners of your company suck because they don't hire enough staff. It's not because you are doing critically important work.

If you're a doctor, air traffic controller, or other job where life and catastrophic property harm is at risk, it is vital that you NOT work 15 hour days 7 days a week. No one is doing good work when they are that exhausted. There's a reason why professional athlete don't train for 15 hours a day. You can't perform when you're exhausted.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Unless you're a doctor, air traffic controllers, or doing some other job with life and catastrophic property harm is at risk, NO ONE has a job where it is important to work 15 hours days, 7 days a week, period. 99% of jobs are mundane garbage that matters very little. If you need to work 15 hours days, it means you suck at your job, or the owners of your company suck because they don't hire enough staff. It's not because you are doing critically important work.

Or there is a massive face time culture where you have to stretch out tasks.

Which just confirms most jobs are bullshit nonsense. Someone who works 8 hours per day, and I mean TRULY working intensely with focus, will get more done than some bozo putting in 15 hour days all because of admin BS like wasting time on meetings about future meetings.

There's almost no jobs that exist where you need to work 15 hours days.