Odd new syntax with the word “disappear”

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:This isn’t new. You’re talking about using disappear as a transitive verb, which is usually reserved for describing people being killed/kidnapped like by a political regime. Not sure of the origin, though.

But it is grammatically incorrect. So when did it become mainstream?

It's very correct. So correct and so regular, in fact, that Merriam-Webster lists it as a definition for the word disappear. Were you born yesterday?

DP here. I don’t object to disappear but this is hardly the gold standard. MW adds all kinds of made up words that enter the vernacular.

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/ginormous

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/rizz

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/bae

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/noob

There are tons more but you get the idea. Finding something “in the dictionary” is not the definitive proof it once was.

GRAMMATIK MACHT FREI

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This isn’t new. You’re talking about using disappear as a transitive verb, which is usually reserved for describing people being killed/kidnapped like by a political regime. Not sure of the origin, though.

But it is grammatically incorrect. So when did it become mainstream?

It’s no worse than “I was gifted this” or “he graduated from”

I say graduated from - Johnnie graduated from Harvard vs Johnnie graduated Harvard.
Am I wrong?

Both are wrong. Johnnie didn’t have the connections to get in Harvard.

[Anonymous]

I’m more disturbed about “Susie went to prom” vs. “Susie went to the (or her) prom.”

[Anonymous]

It’s back en vogue.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This isn’t new. You’re talking about using disappear as a transitive verb, which is usually reserved for describing people being killed/kidnapped like by a political regime. Not sure of the origin, though.

But it is grammatically incorrect. So when did it become mainstream?

It’s no worse than “I was gifted this” or “he graduated from”

I say graduated from - Johnnie graduated from Harvard vs Johnnie graduated Harvard.
Am I wrong?

Harvard graduated Johnny.

I think the correct wording is "Johnny was graduated from Harvard in 2023."

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I have noticed a new syntax lately and don’t understand the origin or why the words are phrased this way. I’ve read it online mostly and notice it here on DCUM but in other places as well and even being used by people whom I know have advanced degrees and English is their first language. I find it happens mostly in political discussions. An example might be, “Larlo was just minding his own business when the boogie man disappeared him.” Can anyone shed some light on the origin of this?

+1 to the others here. This is not new syntax, or you were not around or paying attention to discussions, in English, of Pinochet's regime in Chile.

This is how that government's practice of yanking people off the streets and secreting them away to other locations--often never to return--was referred to, in English.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This isn’t new. You’re talking about using disappear as a transitive verb, which is usually reserved for describing people being killed/kidnapped like by a political regime. Not sure of the origin, though.

But it is grammatically incorrect. So when did it become mainstream?

It’s no worse than “I was gifted this” or “he graduated from”

I say graduated from - Johnnie graduated from Harvard vs Johnnie graduated Harvard.
Am I wrong?

Harvard graduated Johnny.

I think the correct wording is "Johnny was graduated from Harvard in 2023."

If one has completed their degree at Harvard, why would one continue to be known by the diminutive “Johnny?”

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This isn’t new. You’re talking about using disappear as a transitive verb, which is usually reserved for describing people being killed/kidnapped like by a political regime. Not sure of the origin, though.

But it is grammatically incorrect. So when did it become mainstream?

It's very correct. So correct and so regular, in fact, that Merriam-Webster lists it as a definition for the word disappear. Were you born yesterday?

DP here. I don’t object to disappear but this is hardly the gold standard. MW adds all kinds of made up words that enter the vernacular.

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/ginormous

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/rizz

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/bae

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/noob

There are tons more but you get the idea. Finding something “in the dictionary” is not the definitive proof it once was.

Yes, that's how language works. It evolves and changes over time and things that were once "wrong" and now "right."

I notice you're not writing your posts in old or even middle English, so clearly you yourself regularly use many, many words and phrases that were once "made up words that entered the vernacular."

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This isn’t new. You’re talking about using disappear as a transitive verb, which is usually reserved for describing people being killed/kidnapped like by a political regime. Not sure of the origin, though.

But it is grammatically incorrect. So when did it become mainstream?

It's very correct. So correct and so regular, in fact, that Merriam-Webster lists it as a definition for the word disappear. Were you born yesterday?

DP here. I don’t object to disappear but this is hardly the gold standard. MW adds all kinds of made up words that enter the vernacular.

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/ginormous

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/rizz

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/bae

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/noob

There are tons more but you get the idea. Finding something “in the dictionary” is not the definitive proof it once was.

Yes, that's how language works. It evolves and changes over time and things that were once "wrong" and now "right."

I notice you're not writing your posts in old or even middle English, so clearly you yourself regularly use many, many words and phrases that were once "made up words that entered the vernacular."

Bitte thine tong!

[Anonymous]

Iirc, the first time I heard about someone being Disappeared was when watching Game of Thrones, and that crazy teenage-ish boy would “disappear” people through his trapdoor. Then I started hearing it all the time. So my theory is that GOT made it popular to say.

[Anonymous]

It's stupid, but alas, language evolves.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Iirc, the first time I heard about someone being Disappeared was when watching Game of Thrones, and that crazy teenage-ish boy would “disappear” people through his trapdoor. Then I started hearing it all the time. So my theory is that GOT made it popular to say.

I have seen every episode of GOT (some more than once) and have no idea who/what you are talking about. What teenage boy? What trap door? I remember there were secret passageways in/out of Kings Landing but that's it.

[Anonymous]

I’ve seen this a lot.
Online speech has changed, and it seeps into real life. I think some filters have taken out “kill” when people post. I mean.. not take out, but either lowers the post in an algorithm, or doesn’t allow the post.
So they changed kill to “unalive” or “disappear.”

Same thing with the terms PDF, or various drugs, etc.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This isn’t new. You’re talking about using disappear as a transitive verb, which is usually reserved for describing people being killed/kidnapped like by a political regime. Not sure of the origin, though.

But it is grammatically incorrect. So when did it become mainstream?

It's very correct. So correct and so regular, in fact, that Merriam-Webster lists it as a definition for the word disappear. Were you born yesterday?

DP here. I don’t object to disappear but this is hardly the gold standard. MW adds all kinds of made up words that enter the vernacular.

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/ginormous

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/rizz

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/bae

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/noob

There are tons more but you get the idea. Finding something “in the dictionary” is not the definitive proof it once was.

Yes, that's how language works. It evolves and changes over time and things that were once "wrong" and now "right."

I notice you're not writing your posts in old or even middle English, so clearly you yourself regularly use many, many words and phrases that were once "made up words that entered the vernacular."

Bitte thine tong!

thy is fine.
Thine is used when the following word starts with a vowel sound. Like A and An.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This is embarrassing. Tell me you don’t know anything about history.

Seriously. It's not new, but it IS starting to apply to our country now thanks to the current administration. Maybe that's why you're finally clued in.