DHMS Hosting Religious Event

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:If you are not a parent at the school, why do you feel it's appropriate to comment?

Because we’re parents in the district

So glad we have parents in the district who are so passionate about making our community less tolerant. Thank you for your work.

[Anonymous]

Yes and also supported by staff

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Anonymous wrote:Sure but there was no such outage during the Passover Seder was there?

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Anonymous wrote:I’d contact the office of DEI because they aren’t offering Seders or Easter dinners to my knowledge. I sometimes get the feeling that we tiptoe around Muslims in APS

. Not true. They hosted a Seder last year too.

Ok, that’s shouldn’t be allowed either

I really really wish we'd just give the religious right their vouchers and kick them out of public school once and for all. How celebrating a community's religious and cultural differences is upsetting is beyond me. I'm an atheist. And an attorney. The Iftar dinner in and of itself is not at all legally or ethically objectionable. It's after hours. It's not being funded by the school. It's parent and teacher volunteers.

And what the h&ll is an Easter celebration? Like a ham or something? Don't you all do that on the WHOLE FORKING WEEK PLUS A MONDAY YOU GET OFF IN APS EVERY YEAR????? I'm on the PTA, if you want a ham dinner, please let us know. I'll bring one myself. Just for you.

I’m PP and also an atheist public school teacher.

Bullshirt. If you are a public school teacher, I'm the Easter bunny.

Again, how is celebrating Iftar after hours legally objectionable? Are you really suggesting that the mere presences of teachers is the objection? Or just that it occurs at a school? Again, do you also object about spring break being beholden to the Christian calendar?

As some of us said at the beginning of the thread, the issue is not the Iftar being held at the school, it’s the advertising of it as a school sponsored event. If a community wanted to rent the space no big deal. And FWIW I advocate for spring break to be aligned with the end of third quarter. I don’t celebrate Easter and don’t care if we are off for it.

Was it posted here? That’s the only way I heard about the Iftar

[Anonymous]

Why can’t you all leave well enough alone. Said event is now cancelled and just plays in to the atmosphere of fear and hate that is the hallmark of the Trump administration.
Can’t we just celebrate our differences?? Live and let live???
What’s wrong with people.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Why can’t you all leave well enough alone. Said event is now cancelled and just plays in to the atmosphere of fear and hate that is the hallmark of the Trump administration.
Can’t we just celebrate our differences?? Live and let live???
What’s wrong with people.

What’s wrong with people is that they don’t realize a school shouldn’t be hosting a religious event.

[Anonymous]

It was after hours. It was not mandatory. Unlike the songs for the “winter” concert my Muslim kids learned that are overtly Christian and Jewish. And that I learned. If you think hosting an Iftar is creeping religion in public school you have double standards. It’s not easy to grow up Muslim in this country. To observe Ramadan. Empathy is free.

[Anonymous]

If your children are learning Christian or Jewish songs at school, please report this to school board or superintendent. This should not be happening either.

Schools should not be promoting any religion. Please help fight this battle. Otherwise we will be sorry when we go back in time and teachers start teaching the Bible again in public school. Happened to me.

This is all a slippery slope.

[Anonymous]

You will also be sorry when overtly Christian clubs that are run by school staff overtake the school. Children of minority religions will be excluded and left out. Trust me this will be worse for your children and for everybody. Please help keep religion out of school.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:If your children are learning Christian or Jewish songs at school, please report this to school board or superintendent. This should not be happening either.

Schools should not be promoting any religion. Please help fight this battle. Otherwise we will be sorry when we go back in time and teachers start teaching the Bible again in public school. Happened to me.

This is all a slippery slope.

+1 it’s been years since my school sang anything approaching a Christmas song, let alone a religious one.
I think this is a great opportunity for APS’s DEI department to standardize things. Write up official policy on songs, events, holidays (Halloween is not allowed at some schools for example the decision should be the same across the board)

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:If your children are learning Christian or Jewish songs at school, please report this to school board or superintendent. This should not be happening either.

Schools should not be promoting any religion. Please help fight this battle. Otherwise we will be sorry when we go back in time and teachers start teaching the Bible again in public school. Happened to me.

This is all a slippery slope.

There's a ton of music that comes out of religion and such music is often taught in schools for its musical quality and historical context. That's totally fine. It's not being used to worship.

Let's not strip culture and history from schools. There needs to be a balance and the songs shouldn't be part of worship, but there also should not be a prohibition. Learning music from around the world is no different than learning world history.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:If your children are learning Christian or Jewish songs at school, please report this to school board or superintendent. This should not be happening either.

Schools should not be promoting any religion. Please help fight this battle. Otherwise we will be sorry when we go back in time and teachers start teaching the Bible again in public school. Happened to me.

This is all a slippery slope.

+1 it’s been years since my school sang anything approaching a Christmas song, let alone a religious one.
I think this is a great opportunity for APS’s DEI department to standardize things. Write up official policy on songs, events, holidays (Halloween is not allowed at some schools for example the decision should be the same across the board)

My APS elementary school kid has learned several songs this year from different religions. There was a song in Hebrew around Hanukkah, a Kwanzaa song, and, yes, a Christmas song. There are probably others, but those are the ones I caught her singing to herself at home.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:I’d contact the office of DEI because they aren’t offering Seders or Easter dinners to my knowledge. I sometimes get the feeling that we tiptoe around Muslims in APS

. Not true. They hosted a Seder last year too.

Ok, that’s shouldn’t be allowed either

I really really wish we'd just give the religious right their vouchers and kick them out of public school once and for all. How celebrating a community's religious and cultural differences is upsetting is beyond me. I'm an atheist. And an attorney. The Iftar dinner in and of itself is not at all legally or ethically objectionable. It's after hours. It's not being funded by the school. It's parent and teacher volunteers.

And what the h&ll is an Easter celebration? Like a ham or something? Don't you all do that on the WHOLE FORKING WEEK PLUS A MONDAY YOU GET OFF IN APS EVERY YEAR????? I'm on the PTA, if you want a ham dinner, please let us know. I'll bring one myself. Just for you.

Omg no. Don’t be ridiculous.

While I generally believe that we shouldn’t hold religious events at school, this one was after hours and given that they already hosted the Seder it seems fair to hold this.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If your children are learning Christian or Jewish songs at school, please report this to school board or superintendent. This should not be happening either.

Schools should not be promoting any religion. Please help fight this battle. Otherwise we will be sorry when we go back in time and teachers start teaching the Bible again in public school. Happened to me.

This is all a slippery slope.

+1 it’s been years since my school sang anything approaching a Christmas song, let alone a religious one.
I think this is a great opportunity for APS’s DEI department to standardize things. Write up official policy on songs, events, holidays (Halloween is not allowed at some schools for example the decision should be the same across the board)

My APS elementary school kid has learned several songs this year from different religions. There was a song in Hebrew around Hanukkah, a Kwanzaa song, and, yes, a Christmas song. There are probably others, but those are the ones I caught her singing to herself at home.

Religious ones or songs like “Santa Claus is coming to town” “dreidel” and “Oh Kwanza?”

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’d contact the office of DEI because they aren’t offering Seders or Easter dinners to my knowledge. I sometimes get the feeling that we tiptoe around Muslims in APS

. Not true. They hosted a Seder last year too.

Ok, that’s shouldn’t be allowed either

I really really wish we'd just give the religious right their vouchers and kick them out of public school once and for all. How celebrating a community's religious and cultural differences is upsetting is beyond me. I'm an atheist. And an attorney. The Iftar dinner in and of itself is not at all legally or ethically objectionable. It's after hours. It's not being funded by the school. It's parent and teacher volunteers.

And what the h&ll is an Easter celebration? Like a ham or something? Don't you all do that on the WHOLE FORKING WEEK PLUS A MONDAY YOU GET OFF IN APS EVERY YEAR????? I'm on the PTA, if you want a ham dinner, please let us know. I'll bring one myself. Just for you.

Omg no. Don’t be ridiculous.

While I generally believe that we shouldn’t hold religious events at school, this one was after hours and given that they already hosted the Seder it seems fair to hold this.

No sure why that poster thinks vouchers wouldn’t see huge numbers of Muslims leaving as well.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If your children are learning Christian or Jewish songs at school, please report this to school board or superintendent. This should not be happening either.

Schools should not be promoting any religion. Please help fight this battle. Otherwise we will be sorry when we go back in time and teachers start teaching the Bible again in public school. Happened to me.

This is all a slippery slope.

+1 it’s been years since my school sang anything approaching a Christmas song, let alone a religious one.
I think this is a great opportunity for APS’s DEI department to standardize things. Write up official policy on songs, events, holidays (Halloween is not allowed at some schools for example the decision should be the same across the board)

My APS elementary school kid has learned several songs this year from different religions. There was a song in Hebrew around Hanukkah, a Kwanzaa song, and, yes, a Christmas song. There are probably others, but those are the ones I caught her singing to herself at home.

Religious ones or songs like “Santa Claus is coming to town” “dreidel” and “Oh Kwanza?”

I don't know, but as long as the songs were being used to teach them they're fine. They can be used to teach musical aspects (e.g., rhythm, harmony, composition, etc) or historical/cultural context.

As long as they aren't biased disproportionately towards one religion or being used to worship, it's fine.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’d contact the office of DEI because they aren’t offering Seders or Easter dinners to my knowledge. I sometimes get the feeling that we tiptoe around Muslims in APS

. Not true. They hosted a Seder last year too.

Ok, that’s shouldn’t be allowed either

I really really wish we'd just give the religious right their vouchers and kick them out of public school once and for all. How celebrating a community's religious and cultural differences is upsetting is beyond me. I'm an atheist. And an attorney. The Iftar dinner in and of itself is not at all legally or ethically objectionable. It's after hours. It's not being funded by the school. It's parent and teacher volunteers.

And what the h&ll is an Easter celebration? Like a ham or something? Don't you all do that on the WHOLE FORKING WEEK PLUS A MONDAY YOU GET OFF IN APS EVERY YEAR????? I'm on the PTA, if you want a ham dinner, please let us know. I'll bring one myself. Just for you.

Omg no. Don’t be ridiculous.

While I generally believe that we shouldn’t hold religious events at school, this one was after hours and given that they already hosted the Seder it seems fair to hold this.

No sure why that poster thinks vouchers wouldn’t see huge numbers of Muslims leaving as well.

We shouldn’t siphon off public school money to fund private schools. Period.

Don’t be ridiculous.