8.5/day hours required for Maxiflex users, could 1/2 lunch be done at home?

[Anonymous]

Time cards only ask if you’ve worked 8 hours. If you did, it’s not time card fraud.

No time cards say anything about lunch.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Time cards only ask if you’ve worked 8 hours. If you did, it’s not time card fraud.

No time cards say anything about lunch.

Our time cards have us list a start and end time. Not sure why as it’s not standard across the entire Department.

[Anonymous]

I’m sorry I don’t have the link handy but at least at my agency (Commerce) they did away with the requirement of taking 1/2 hour lunch if you are Maxiflex. If I’m in the office, I’m in for exactly 8 hrs, I don’t badge out, and I report 8 hrs on my timesheet.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Time cards only ask if you’ve worked 8 hours. If you did, it’s not time card fraud.

No time cards say anything about lunch.

Our time cards have us list a start and end time. Not sure why as it’s not standard across the entire Department.

My guess would be because you're a truly hourly employee. Most higher GS grades are salaried and often do not get comp time unless approved by agency leadership. For some of the lower GS grades, comp time is mandatory for any hour over 8.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This is only for the real Feds in government: if you are on MaxiFlex and are doing the 5/8 plan, what do you think about doing 1/2 hour lunch at "home" and leaving 1/2 hour early? [This assumes you are in for the core hours.]

Obviously you cannot do that.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Time cards only ask if you’ve worked 8 hours. If you did, it’s not time card fraud.

No time cards say anything about lunch.

Our time cards have us list a start and end time. Not sure why as it’s not standard across the entire Department.

My guess would be because you're a truly hourly employee. Most higher GS grades are salaried and often do not get comp time unless approved by agency leadership. For some of the lower GS grades, comp time is mandatory for any hour over 8.

DP, I’m GS and definitely not hourly but at least when we request time off we have to put in start and end times. My weekly time cards does not have start and end times, though.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Is this really being tracked? I know our building you only swipe in each morning.

I'm at a swipe-in, swipe-out HQ. That said, do you really want to risk timecard fraud?

We had this very question come up at an RTO office hour, and our HR staff was unequivocal that 8 hours means 8.5 plus a lunch break in the middle. No gaming the system to leave "early".

I don’t want to risk time card fraud, but I also don’t want to be treated like a child.

This. We had someone do this years ago and got disciplined out of that behavior.

As a supervisor if I know about it, I’d have to counsel or discipline the employee. Please don’t put your supervisors in that position. You can’t leave early even if you aren’t eating.

Nothing riles me up more than my bogus 30 min I’m forced to take. I’m not in a CBU either.

Assuming you’re talking about professional fed jobs, if your employees are getting their work done, why does this matter?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:This is only for the real Feds in government: if you are on MaxiFlex and are doing the 5/8 plan, what do you think about doing 1/2 hour lunch at "home" and leaving 1/2 hour early? [This assumes you are in for the core hours.]

Obviously you cannot do that.

Obviously you should read the full thread before noting that you "cannot" do that.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Time cards only ask if you’ve worked 8 hours. If you did, it’s not time card fraud.

No time cards say anything about lunch.

Our time cards have us list a start and end time. Not sure why as it’s not standard across the entire Department.

My guess would be because you're a truly hourly employee. Most higher GS grades are salaried and often do not get comp time unless approved by agency leadership. For some of the lower GS grades, comp time is mandatory for any hour over 8.

DP, I’m GS and definitely not hourly but at least when we request time off we have to put in start and end times. My weekly time cards does not have start and end times, though.

Requesting time off needs hourly notation because you could be asking for an hour or several and you'd have to note when you're taking it. The time system that we use don't account for lunch at all. But it's my understanding that in some agency system, you have to account for lunch. It's frankly all over the place so another reason to think that it is not a real requirement and just agency manifested.