As Trump Goes After Universities, Students Are Now on the Chopping Block

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:This is great news! All these rich schools should be defunded. They have billion dollar endowments- use them instead of being a drain on taxpayer dollars!

+ 22 Billion. Which is Penn’s endowment.

As of June 30, 2024, the University of Pennsylvania's endowment was valued at $22.3 billion. This makes it the sixth-wealthiest private academic institution in the United States

Universities are the biggest source of innovative new inventions/treatments, etc

Dim wit

Who make all the innovations that MAG?

This is what happens when people know the price of everything and the value of nothing.

When the bill is being paid by taxpayers yet these schools all have massive endowments that don’t pay taxes, yeah I have an issue with that.

And the world will not collapse is there are few less History and English PhDs.

There are vast amounts of actual innovations thst some out of these universities. A mediocre nobody like you can understand thst. It's not just history and English. What's your background?

Universities are the biggest source of innovative new inventions/treatments, etc

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:one thing is for sure. the left wont hesitate to call the right idiots and uneducated. Yet - majority of country voted for him. So the majority are dumb? plenty of smart people - especially rich smart people who came from the schools mentioned did in fact vote for him as kamala and biden were abject disasters

Please do research. It's not a fact that the majority of the country did not vote for Trump. At least 1/3 of eligible voters stayed home and did not vote at all. Of the remaining roughly 2/3 of eligible voters who did vote, Trump won a plurality (49%), not a majority of the popular vote. He did get 2 million more votes than Harris (Trump got 77 million, Harris got 75 million). By the way, the record for most votes ever cast for President in history was Joe Biden (81 million, and he achieved a majority of 51% popular vote too.)

You are missing the forest for the trees. And exhibiting basic mathematical incompetence. If 100% of population voted, it would have been in line with the percentage he won which is 49.8%. That additional 0.21% that he needs to say majority of votes is not the frekin point.

The main point is Trump won 49.8% of the votes. After the events of Jan 6 and after election denials, after all the nonsense.

Why?

It is not because 49.8% of the voters are stupid.

DO but that’s not how statistics works, especially when you know the categorical difference is a non-interest in voting. You can’t extrapolate from outside your sample, it’s literally Stats 101.

get off your high horse. the fact still stands. a significant if not majority of the country voted for him. calling them idiots is shortsighted

"High horse?"
Great, the senior citizen MAGA sound off

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:one thing is for sure. the left wont hesitate to call the right idiots and uneducated. Yet - majority of country voted for him. So the majority are dumb? plenty of smart people - especially rich smart people who came from the schools mentioned did in fact vote for him as kamala and biden were abject disasters

Please do research. It's not a fact that the majority of the country did not vote for Trump. At least 1/3 of eligible voters stayed home and did not vote at all. Of the remaining roughly 2/3 of eligible voters who did vote, Trump won a plurality (49%), not a majority of the popular vote. He did get 2 million more votes than Harris (Trump got 77 million, Harris got 75 million). By the way, the record for most votes ever cast for President in history was Joe Biden (81 million, and he achieved a majority of 51% popular vote too.)

You are missing the forest for the trees. And exhibiting basic mathematical incompetence. If 100% of population voted, it would have been in line with the percentage he won which is 49.8%. That additional 0.21% that he needs to say majority of votes is not the frekin point.

The main point is Trump won 49.8% of the votes. After the events of Jan 6 and after election denials, after all the nonsense.

Why?

It is not because 49.8% of the voters are stupid.

DO but that’s not how statistics works, especially when you know the categorical difference is a non-interest in voting. You can’t extrapolate from outside your sample, it’s literally Stats 101.

get off your high horse. the fact still stands. a significant if not majority of the country voted for him. calling them idiots is shortsighted

"High horse?"
Great, the senior citizen MAGA sound off

It’s one of their biggest critiques of democrats when it really means “I don’t like what you said and can’t combat it!”

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:If private institutions can start drawing on their endowment and use it to fund research and operations, how long will that last? Meaning, if these private institutions were able to privately fund what the government did, how many years of funding would they have left?

Penn has an endowment of $22 billion. If not another penny was added to it, it would take 110 years to spend $22 billion at an annual rate of $200 million.

$200 million might cover the NIH overhead cut,but not reduced NIH grants and . Hopkins lost $800 million USAID funding for infectious disease research, Penn does some of that work also. Then add in endowment tax, Medicaid cuts, student loan cuts, etc .. . .

Every person regardless of what party they identify with will be harmed by this. If you or a family member have ever or will ever get cancer, have heart problems, diabetes, asthma, autism, eye issues, ADHD, blood pressure etc. We need our best and brightest to stay in this country and find better treatments for all of these.

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Anonymous wrote:one thing is for sure. the left wont hesitate to call the right idiots and uneducated. Yet - majority of country voted for him. So the majority are dumb? plenty of smart people - especially rich smart people who came from the schools mentioned did in fact vote for him as kamala and biden were abject disasters

Please do research. It's not a fact that the majority of the country did not vote for Trump. At least 1/3 of eligible voters stayed home and did not vote at all. Of the remaining roughly 2/3 of eligible voters who did vote, Trump won a plurality (49%), not a majority of the popular vote. He did get 2 million more votes than Harris (Trump got 77 million, Harris got 75 million). By the way, the record for most votes ever cast for President in history was Joe Biden (81 million, and he achieved a majority of 51% popular vote too.)

You are missing the forest for the trees. And exhibiting basic mathematical incompetence. If 100% of population voted, it would have been in line with the percentage he won which is 49.8%. That additional 0.21% that he needs to say majority of votes is not the frekin point.

The main point is Trump won 49.8% of the votes. After the events of Jan 6 and after election denials, after all the nonsense.

Why?

It is not because 49.8% of the voters are stupid.

DO but that’s not how statistics works, especially when you know the categorical difference is a non-interest in voting. You can’t extrapolate from outside your sample, it’s literally Stats 101.

get off your high horse. the fact still stands. a significant if not majority of the country voted for him. calling them idiots is shortsighted

It’s not a high horse. Your allergy to facts doesn’t make something pretentious. You’re not always right and can be wrong, deal with it. Nothing I said couldn’t have been found in a high school stats course.

You keep spouting stats with a presumption that those responding don't know it. Guess, what many you're talking to on here have taken higher more complex math and econometrics courses than you. We do have a sound grasp of stats. You still omitted responding to my comment.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:one thing is for sure. the left wont hesitate to call the right idiots and uneducated. Yet - majority of country voted for him. So the majority are dumb? plenty of smart people - especially rich smart people who came from the schools mentioned did in fact vote for him as kamala and biden were abject disasters

Please do research. It's not a fact that the majority of the country did not vote for Trump. At least 1/3 of eligible voters stayed home and did not vote at all. Of the remaining roughly 2/3 of eligible voters who did vote, Trump won a plurality (49%), not a majority of the popular vote. He did get 2 million more votes than Harris (Trump got 77 million, Harris got 75 million). By the way, the record for most votes ever cast for President in history was Joe Biden (81 million, and he achieved a majority of 51% popular vote too.)

You are missing the forest for the trees. And exhibiting basic mathematical incompetence. If 100% of population voted, it would have been in line with the percentage he won which is 49.8%. That additional 0.21% that he needs to say majority of votes is not the frekin point.

The main point is Trump won 49.8% of the votes. After the events of Jan 6 and after election denials, after all the nonsense.

Why?

It is not because 49.8% of the voters are stupid.

DO but that’s not how statistics works, especially when you know the categorical difference is a non-interest in voting. You can’t extrapolate from outside your sample, it’s literally Stats 101.

get off your high horse. the fact still stands. a significant if not majority of the country voted for him. calling them idiots is shortsighted

It’s not a high horse. Your allergy to facts doesn’t make something pretentious. You’re not always right and can be wrong, deal with it. Nothing I said couldn’t have been found in a high school stats course.

You keep spouting stats with a presumption that those responding don't know it. Guess, what many you're talking to on here have taken higher more complex math and econometrics courses than you. We do have a sound grasp of stats. You still omitted responding to my comment.

Sooooo
You seem like a fancy MAGA.
Why Donnie? No normal non felons in the Rs?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:one thing is for sure. the left wont hesitate to call the right idiots and uneducated. Yet - majority of country voted for him. So the majority are dumb? plenty of smart people - especially rich smart people who came from the schools mentioned did in fact vote for him as kamala and biden were abject disasters

Please do research. It's not a fact that the majority of the country did not vote for Trump. At least 1/3 of eligible voters stayed home and did not vote at all. Of the remaining roughly 2/3 of eligible voters who did vote, Trump won a plurality (49%), not a majority of the popular vote. He did get 2 million more votes than Harris (Trump got 77 million, Harris got 75 million). By the way, the record for most votes ever cast for President in history was Joe Biden (81 million, and he achieved a majority of 51% popular vote too.)

You are missing the forest for the trees. And exhibiting basic mathematical incompetence. If 100% of population voted, it would have been in line with the percentage he won which is 49.8%. That additional 0.21% that he needs to say majority of votes is not the frekin point.

The main point is Trump won 49.8% of the votes. After the events of Jan 6 and after election denials, after all the nonsense.

Why?

It is not because 49.8% of the voters are stupid.

You are exhibiting basic mathematics incompetence.

You can't extrapolate out Trump's win. And he's doing a darn good job of making sure more people turn out for the next election pissed off at him.

Better crank up your propaganda machine. It's going to be tough to claim that people are better off at the tail of Trump's term

The converse is also true. You can't assume those who stayed at home would have voted majority democrat. Either way it doesn't change the end outcome since that's in the past. A majority of voters did vote for him compared to Kamala.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:one thing is for sure. the left wont hesitate to call the right idiots and uneducated. Yet - majority of country voted for him. So the majority are dumb? plenty of smart people - especially rich smart people who came from the schools mentioned did in fact vote for him as kamala and biden were abject disasters

Please do research. It's not a fact that the majority of the country did not vote for Trump. At least 1/3 of eligible voters stayed home and did not vote at all. Of the remaining roughly 2/3 of eligible voters who did vote, Trump won a plurality (49%), not a majority of the popular vote. He did get 2 million more votes than Harris (Trump got 77 million, Harris got 75 million). By the way, the record for most votes ever cast for President in history was Joe Biden (81 million, and he achieved a majority of 51% popular vote too.)

You are missing the forest for the trees. And exhibiting basic mathematical incompetence. If 100% of population voted, it would have been in line with the percentage he won which is 49.8%. That additional 0.21% that he needs to say majority of votes is not the frekin point.

The main point is Trump won 49.8% of the votes. After the events of Jan 6 and after election denials, after all the nonsense.

Why?

It is not because 49.8% of the voters are stupid.

DO but that’s not how statistics works, especially when you know the categorical difference is a non-interest in voting. You can’t extrapolate from outside your sample, it’s literally Stats 101.

get off your high horse. the fact still stands. a significant if not majority of the country voted for him. calling them idiots is shortsighted

All posts here not relevant

[Anonymous]

Perhaps the 2 people who are resorting to ad hominem insults could take a break?

I am a parent and I'm very alarmed about this president's negative impact on college funding and freedom of speech.

Do we have any recourse prior to the 2026 mid-terms? Prior to the VA Gov election in 6 months? I am writing my senator/reps pretty regularly.

My 529 is going down which is distressing too as our first child is due to go to college in 2026.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Perhaps the 2 people who are resorting to ad hominem insults could take a break?

I am a parent and I'm very alarmed about this president's negative impact on college funding and freedom of speech.

Do we have any recourse prior to the 2026 mid-terms? Prior to the VA Gov election in 6 months? I am writing my senator/reps pretty regularly.

My 529 is going down which is distressing too as our first child is due to go to college in 2026.

Yes is there some kind of Citizen's Action Committee for Education or Universities we could join?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:one thing is for sure. the left wont hesitate to call the right idiots and uneducated. Yet - majority of country voted for him. So the majority are dumb? plenty of smart people - especially rich smart people who came from the schools mentioned did in fact vote for him as kamala and biden were abject disasters

Please do research. It's not a fact that the majority of the country did not vote for Trump. At least 1/3 of eligible voters stayed home and did not vote at all. Of the remaining roughly 2/3 of eligible voters who did vote, Trump won a plurality (49%), not a majority of the popular vote. He did get 2 million more votes than Harris (Trump got 77 million, Harris got 75 million). By the way, the record for most votes ever cast for President in history was Joe Biden (81 million, and he achieved a majority of 51% popular vote too.)

You are missing the forest for the trees. And exhibiting basic mathematical incompetence. If 100% of population voted, it would have been in line with the percentage he won which is 49.8%. That additional 0.21% that he needs to say majority of votes is not the frekin point.

The main point is Trump won 49.8% of the votes. After the events of Jan 6 and after election denials, after all the nonsense.

Why?

It is not because 49.8% of the voters are stupid.

DO but that’s not how statistics works, especially when you know the categorical difference is a non-interest in voting. You can’t extrapolate from outside your sample, it’s literally Stats 101.

get off your high horse. the fact still stands. a significant if not majority of the country voted for him. calling them idiots is shortsighted

It’s not a high horse. Your allergy to facts doesn’t make something pretentious. You’re not always right and can be wrong, deal with it. Nothing I said couldn’t have been found in a high school stats course.

You keep spouting stats with a presumption that those responding don't know it. Guess, what many you're talking to on here have taken higher more complex math and econometrics courses than you. We do have a sound grasp of stats. You still omitted responding to my comment.

Great, so that means I was speaking on-level (from what it sounds like, potentially below level), wasn't on a high horse, and you could've responded to me. I see no reason to believe you're arguing in good faith, so I'll leave you there. Blessed to be in the presence of an economist.

[Anonymous]

Low-paid PhD students are the ones who are teaching assistants, tutor, grade papers and basically keep undergraduate classes going while professors lecture and supervise research. Lack of staffing will mean large classes and less support for undergraduates.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Low-paid PhD students are the ones who are teaching assistants, tutor, grade papers and basically keep undergraduate classes going while professors lecture and supervise research. Lack of staffing will mean large classes and less support for undergraduates.

yes that worries me since my eldest is at a large state university and relies on her TAs quite a bit!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This is great news! All these rich schools should be defunded. They have billion dollar endowments- use them instead of being a drain on taxpayer dollars!

So much confusion about how endowments actually work. Endowments are not big chunks of money that can be spent as the institution pleases. They are hogtied with restrictions—the corpus cannot be spent, some funds are only for scholarships, some only for athletics, some are for named professorships, some for buildings, etc. Violating any of these restrictions immediately exposes the institution to lawsuits.

This is why the current administration’s $400+ million slapdown of Columbia is such a big deal. Columbia cannot just pull replacement $ out of their endowment to cover this, because relatively little of their endowment can be used to support grad students and targeted research activities. We are seeing the brute force playbook in action: advance into hostile territory, identify a leader of the resistance, and publicly execute them to make an example for the others.