ED Middlebury from MCPS? Anyone?

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Naviance scattergrams for Whitman show a few ED acceptances for Middlebury over the past ten or so years. Unfortunately, it doesn’t break them down by year. No idea about athletic recruits.

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Anonymous wrote:Midd likes private school kids.

That’s one way to stay “need-blind,” coupled with filling your class with ED applicants.

Is the school need blind or need-aware?
Given financial issues, aware??

Still need blind.

And as PP said, in name only. The school is white as bread and filled with trust fund ski bros (and “bras”).

46% of students receive financial aid, and the average grant is $60,202 (according to their website): https://www.middlebury.edu/college/admissions/affordability

So while there are a lot of very rich kids there, there are also many who are not.

look at their admissions page - HUGE outreach to URM and FG.....its how they get their economic diversity.

Sure but the school itself isn’t diverse, which means op’s child certainly has a chance. They just want the URMs they do accept to not automatically deny them, so they show it’s an inclusive school

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Anonymous wrote:Midd likes private school kids.

That’s one way to stay “need-blind,” coupled with filling your class with ED applicants.

Is the school need blind or need-aware?
Given financial issues, aware??

Still need blind.

And as PP said, in name only. The school is white as bread and filled with trust fund ski bros (and “bras”).

46% of students receive financial aid, and the average grant is $60,202 (according to their website): https://www.middlebury.edu/college/admissions/affordability

So while there are a lot of very rich kids there, there are also many who are not.

look at their admissions page - HUGE outreach to URM and FG.....its how they get their economic diversity.

Sure but the school itself isn’t diverse, which means op’s child certainly has a chance. They just want the URMs they do accept to not automatically deny them, so they show it’s an inclusive school

It's in Vermont, one of the whitest states in the US. And in a rural area. Hard to knock them for not having a huge minority population. I'm amazed that they have as much diversity as they do.

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How do you know what year the acceptances/applications were from? Our school’s naviance has a graph for the last five years. There are some of the acceptances: 700 SAT, 4.26 WGPA, 960 SAT, 4.37 WGPA, and 1210 SAT, WGPA 4.22. I’m sure these are test optional applicants. The weighted GPAs are pretty low for our W school.

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Anonymous wrote:How do you know what year the acceptances/applications were from? Our school’s naviance has a graph for the last five years. There are some of the acceptances: 700 SAT, 4.26 WGPA, 960 SAT, 4.37 WGPA, and 1210 SAT, WGPA 4.22. I’m sure these are test optional applicants. The weighted GPAs are pretty low for our W school.

700 SAT? 960 SAT? are you reading this correctly?

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Anonymous wrote:Midd likes private school kids.

That’s one way to stay “need-blind,” coupled with filling your class with ED applicants.

Is the school need blind or need-aware?
Given financial issues, aware??

Still need blind.

And as PP said, in name only. The school is white as bread and filled with trust fund ski bros (and “bras”).

46% of students receive financial aid, and the average grant is $60,202 (according to their website): https://www.middlebury.edu/college/admissions/affordability

So while there are a lot of very rich kids there, there are also many who are not.

look at their admissions page - HUGE outreach to URM and FG.....its how they get their economic diversity.

Sure but the school itself isn’t diverse, which means op’s child certainly has a chance. They just want the URMs they do accept to not automatically deny them, so they show it’s an inclusive school

It's in Vermont, one of the whitest states in the US. And in a rural area. Hard to knock them for not having a huge minority population. I'm amazed that they have as much diversity as they do.

100%, I think it’s just difficult to get that context as a minority looking at the campus.

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Anonymous wrote:How do you know what year the acceptances/applications were from? Our school’s naviance has a graph for the last five years. There are some of the acceptances: 700 SAT, 4.26 WGPA, 960 SAT, 4.37 WGPA, and 1210 SAT, WGPA 4.22. I’m sure these are test optional applicants. The weighted GPAs are pretty low for our W school.

700 SAT? 960 SAT? are you reading this correctly?

You can’t score 960 on one section.

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Anonymous wrote:How do you know what year the acceptances/applications were from? Our school’s naviance has a graph for the last five years. There are some of the acceptances: 700 SAT, 4.26 WGPA, 960 SAT, 4.37 WGPA, and 1210 SAT, WGPA 4.22. I’m sure these are test optional applicants. The weighted GPAs are pretty low for our W school.

700 SAT? 960 SAT? are you reading this correctly?

I think this poster probably stretched out Scattergrams on their phone. It causes distortion and false numbers.

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Anonymous wrote:How do you know what year the acceptances/applications were from? Our school’s naviance has a graph for the last five years. There are some of the acceptances: 700 SAT, 4.26 WGPA, 960 SAT, 4.37 WGPA, and 1210 SAT, WGPA 4.22. I’m sure these are test optional applicants. The weighted GPAs are pretty low for our W school.

700 SAT? 960 SAT? are you reading this correctly?

I think this poster probably stretched out Scattergrams on their phone. It causes distortion and false numbers.

No distortions or false numbers. No phone - looking at my laptop.

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Anonymous wrote:How do you know what year the acceptances/applications were from? Our school’s naviance has a graph for the last five years. There are some of the acceptances: 700 SAT, 4.26 WGPA, 960 SAT, 4.37 WGPA, and 1210 SAT, WGPA 4.22. I’m sure these are test optional applicants. The weighted GPAs are pretty low for our W school.

700 SAT? 960 SAT? are you reading this correctly?

I think this poster probably stretched out Scattergrams on their phone. It causes distortion and false numbers.

No distortions or false numbers. No phone - looking at my laptop.

What school? We’ll have someone else verify. Not a chance someone with 700 even applied. It’s possible there’s an error on Scattergrams though. That’s about an 87 IQ.

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Anonymous wrote:Looking at Naviance for WJ, it looks like everyone gets rejected ED, even with strong stats. Do other MCPS schools experience this? I don’t see this pattern for other colleges. Colby rejects or waitlists most but that’s explained by the lack of ED applications. Could Middlebury have a beef with WJ? Did someone breach their ED agreement years ago? Or just how it shook out and they haven’t liked the candidates? Or maybe lack of hooked applicants?

Are those definitely ED applications? I didn't think they differentiated between RD and ED on that Naviance.

They do differentiate in Naviance, at least at our MCPS high school.

+1 DC is at a magnet and not many kids apply to LACs ED. Most are focused on STEM at large national universities. So, small sample size, but looks like 3 have gotten into Midd ED in the last six years. Two normal high stats, and one very low stats (must have been recruited). Otherwise, normal high stats are mostly waitlisted and some tippy-top stats kids got in RD. But very few attend.

I wouldn’t put too much stock in Naviance stats. My kid's test scores look meh because they only included her psat. She took ACT (35) but mot SAT. ACT doesn't show.

Our school's naviance set up has a separate tab for ACT

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Anonymous wrote:Looking at Naviance for WJ, it looks like everyone gets rejected ED, even with strong stats. Do other MCPS schools experience this? I don’t see this pattern for other colleges. Colby rejects or waitlists most but that’s explained by the lack of ED applications. Could Middlebury have a beef with WJ? Did someone breach their ED agreement years ago? Or just how it shook out and they haven’t liked the candidates? Or maybe lack of hooked applicants?

Are those definitely ED applications? I didn't think they differentiated between RD and ED on that Naviance.

They do differentiate in Naviance, at least at our MCPS high school.

+1 DC is at a magnet and not many kids apply to LACs ED. Most are focused on STEM at large national universities. So, small sample size, but looks like 3 have gotten into Midd ED in the last six years. Two normal high stats, and one very low stats (must have been recruited). Otherwise, normal high stats are mostly waitlisted and some tippy-top stats kids got in RD. But very few attend.

I wouldn’t put too much stock in Naviance stats. My kid's test scores look meh because they only included her psat. She took ACT (35) but mot SAT. ACT doesn't show.

Our school's naviance set up has a separate tab for ACT

Our does as well. You can use the gpa to cross-reference so if you see a low score, check the other tab to see the other test score. That low SAT may have been a one time thing early in high school and then you look under ACT to see they scored a 35 and it makes more sense.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Midd likes private school kids.

That’s one way to stay “need-blind,” coupled with filling your class with ED applicants.

Is the school need blind or need-aware?
Given financial issues, aware??

Still need blind.

And as PP said, in name only. The school is white as bread and filled with trust fund ski bros (and “bras”).

46% of students receive financial aid, and the average grant is $60,202 (according to their website): https://www.middlebury.edu/college/admissions/affordability

So while there are a lot of very rich kids there, there are also many who are not.

46% is pretty low for a school that doesn’t give merit aid and is $90k. That means >50% parents can afford $90k a year, that’s very atypical.

Really? Seems about average for the NESCAC.

Amherst: 56%
Bates: 43%
Bowdoin: 50%
Colby: 45%
Conn College: 49%
Hamilton: 50%
Trinity: 40%
Tufts: 40%
Wesleyan: 42%
Williams: 52%

Conn College number is off. They give merit to every accepted student. But NESCAC is still a rarity, there’s a reason there’s so many prep school kids.

Stats are financial aid, not merit aid.

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Anonymous wrote:Looking at Naviance for WJ, it looks like everyone gets rejected ED, even with strong stats. Do other MCPS schools experience this? I don’t see this pattern for other colleges. Colby rejects or waitlists most but that’s explained by the lack of ED applications. Could Middlebury have a beef with WJ? Did someone breach their ED agreement years ago? Or just how it shook out and they haven’t liked the candidates? Or maybe lack of hooked applicants?

Are those definitely ED applications? I didn't think they differentiated between RD and ED on that Naviance.

They do differentiate in Naviance, at least at our MCPS high school.

+1 DC is at a magnet and not many kids apply to LACs ED. Most are focused on STEM at large national universities. So, small sample size, but looks like 3 have gotten into Midd ED in the last six years. Two normal high stats, and one very low stats (must have been recruited). Otherwise, normal high stats are mostly waitlisted and some tippy-top stats kids got in RD. But very few attend.

I wouldn’t put too much stock in Naviance stats. My kid's test scores look meh because they only included her psat. She took ACT (35) but mot SAT. ACT doesn't show.

Our school's naviance set up has a separate tab for ACT

Ours either doesn't have one, or it shows nothing. Can't remember. But, if you look at apps and admits for this highly rejective school, you will wonder why my kid got in with a meh test score (I don't think it even notes that it is psat) and have no idea about the ACT. TO tab shows nothing either. Also, some of the data in acceptances and commitments is just off. So take with a grain of salt!

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Anonymous wrote:Looking at Naviance for WJ, it looks like everyone gets rejected ED, even with strong stats. Do other MCPS schools experience this? I don’t see this pattern for other colleges. Colby rejects or waitlists most but that’s explained by the lack of ED applications. Could Middlebury have a beef with WJ? Did someone breach their ED agreement years ago? Or just how it shook out and they haven’t liked the candidates? Or maybe lack of hooked applicants?

Are those definitely ED applications? I didn't think they differentiated between RD and ED on that Naviance.

They do differentiate in Naviance, at least at our MCPS high school.

+1 DC is at a magnet and not many kids apply to LACs ED. Most are focused on STEM at large national universities. So, small sample size, but looks like 3 have gotten into Midd ED in the last six years. Two normal high stats, and one very low stats (must have been recruited). Otherwise, normal high stats are mostly waitlisted and some tippy-top stats kids got in RD. But very few attend.

I wouldn’t put too much stock in Naviance stats. My kid's test scores look meh because they only included her psat. She took ACT (35) but mot SAT. ACT doesn't show.

Our school's naviance set up has a separate tab for ACT

Our does as well. You can use the gpa to cross-reference so if you see a low score, check the other tab to see the other test score. That low SAT may have been a one time thing early in high school and then you look under ACT to see they scored a 35 and it makes more sense.

Schools are inconsist with how they handle data. Ours does not show the ACT.