Will DOGE allow feds to telework during major snow storms?

[Anonymous]

"What if they mistreat you horribly?"

People will quit. My husband's already gotten unsolicited calls from three different companies telling him he has a job with them.

[Anonymous]

All employers are hypocritical about this. Telework is a benefit the generously grant to be nice - unless it’s telework in the evenings or weekends or snow days, in which case, you MUST telework.

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Anonymous wrote:People won't be taking their laptops home if TW disappears, so no.

prior to COVID, there was a new rule that if you had any telework agreement (eg on day a pay period or ad hoc) you had to always be “telework ready” for a government closure. That meant that you in effect had to take your laptop home when snow was forecast. if you didn’t you would have to take leave. ditto if you had kids at home - you’d have to take unscheduled leave.

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Anonymous wrote:Or will feds have to work in office 8-6 then too?

Well first , they have to staff the DOGE office before they can make these kind of decisions. It will start out with hiring a couple people in a small office but I give it 6 months before that number balloons. I expect by the end of Trump's term , this department will rival the size of other govt departments but of course all those people will be absolutely necessary in order to reduce the other departments or some nonsense like that

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Anonymous wrote:People won't be taking their laptops home if TW disappears, so no.

But then you’ll just end up burning leave. Some people are ok with that and some people have no options due to childcare issues. But not everyone is going to leave their laptops at work and waste a day of leave.

DP but at my agency in order to telework you have to have a telework agreement. If telework goes away then there is no telework agreement meaning people will not have their homes set up with an office.

Before telework we got snow days off, so I would imagine it would revert to that. I mean I wouldn’t put it past DOGE to try to have it both ways, but I don’t think it would work because of OPM determining work statuses. If work can’t be done at home on a non-snow day because it must be done in an office chair to be productive, then how would snow on the ground magically make teleworking more productive?

But there’s no guarantee that going forward you’d get pay. You could end up being charged with leave if you don’t show up. Regardless everything is speculation and these threads are just another way people are expressing their outrage at RTO.

You really think if OPM says offices are closed and you are required to work in an office because you’re in a non-telework job they’re going to charge you leave? Or are you saying they’ll tell people who have to work in office 5x/week that they need to suddenly convert an office space in their home despite not having a WAH job?

You need to be telework ready so that you can telework during snow days and other unanticipated closures. If you cannot work on those days because you don’t have childcare, you will be charged leave. It’s very straightforward.

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Anonymous wrote:People won't be taking their laptops home if TW disappears, so no.

But then you’ll just end up burning leave. Some people are ok with that and some people have no options due to childcare issues. But not everyone is going to leave their laptops at work and waste a day of leave.

DP but at my agency in order to telework you have to have a telework agreement. If telework goes away then there is no telework agreement meaning people will not have their homes set up with an office.

Before telework we got snow days off, so I would imagine it would revert to that. I mean I wouldn’t put it past DOGE to try to have it both ways, but I don’t think it would work because of OPM determining work statuses. If work can’t be done at home on a non-snow day because it must be done in an office chair to be productive, then how would snow on the ground magically make teleworking more productive?

No. I played this game with my agency about 5 years ago. I wasn’t allowed to telework. But on snow days I was expected to telework. Except I had small kids home and thus needed to take annual leave. I refused to sign a telework agreement and they forced me to. HR said I was required to have emergency telework and be forced to take annual leave when the office closes.

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Anonymous wrote:People won't be taking their laptops home if TW disappears, so no.

But then you’ll just end up burning leave. Some people are ok with that and some people have no options due to childcare issues. But not everyone is going to leave their laptops at work and waste a day of leave.

DP but at my agency in order to telework you have to have a telework agreement. If telework goes away then there is no telework agreement meaning people will not have their homes set up with an office.

Before telework we got snow days off, so I would imagine it would revert to that. I mean I wouldn’t put it past DOGE to try to have it both ways, but I don’t think it would work because of OPM determining work statuses. If work can’t be done at home on a non-snow day because it must be done in an office chair to be productive, then how would snow on the ground magically make teleworking more productive?

No. I played this game with my agency about 5 years ago. I wasn’t allowed to telework. But on snow days I was expected to telework. Except I had small kids home and thus needed to take annual leave. I refused to sign a telework agreement and they forced me to. HR said I was required to have emergency telework and be forced to take annual leave when the office closes.

Pp here. I told work to open the office and I’ll be there. I have a 4wd car and live very close. Stop closing the office if you expect me to work.

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Anonymous wrote:Or will feds have to work in office 8-6 then too?

Well first , they have to staff the DOGE office before they can make these kind of decisions. It will start out with hiring a couple people in a small office but I give it 6 months before that number balloons. I expect by the end of Trump's term , this department will rival the size of other govt departments but of course all those people will be absolutely necessary in order to reduce the other departments or some nonsense like that

Doge is already at work. Techbros have been working on plans on Signal since November.

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What is the policy at all of Elon's companies? That's probably a preview.

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Anonymous wrote:People won't be taking their laptops home if TW disappears, so no.

But then you’ll just end up burning leave. Some people are ok with that and some people have no options due to childcare issues. But not everyone is going to leave their laptops at work and waste a day of leave.

DP but at my agency in order to telework you have to have a telework agreement. If telework goes away then there is no telework agreement meaning people will not have their homes set up with an office.

Before telework we got snow days off, so I would imagine it would revert to that. I mean I wouldn’t put it past DOGE to try to have it both ways, but I don’t think it would work because of OPM determining work statuses. If work can’t be done at home on a non-snow day because it must be done in an office chair to be productive, then how would snow on the ground magically make teleworking more productive?

No. I played this game with my agency about 5 years ago. I wasn’t allowed to telework. But on snow days I was expected to telework. Except I had small kids home and thus needed to take annual leave. I refused to sign a telework agreement and they forced me to. HR said I was required to have emergency telework and be forced to take annual leave when the office closes.

I don’t think you appreciate that snow days exist to benefit you. They have no benefit for the employer. If you want the day off, you have to take leave, just like you do on every other day.

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Anonymous wrote:People won't be taking their laptops home if TW disappears, so no.

It will be like the old days. When there was a snow day, work and school stopped.

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Anonymous wrote:Can you all stop it with the 8-6?? No one is making feds work 10 hour days and get paid for 8.

https://www.axios.com/local/washington-dc/2024/11/21/federal-workers-return-office-doge-elon-musk

This was one comment on a tv show made over a month ago that hasn’t been brought up again. They like to talk a lot of nonsense and I hardly think the general public is on the edge of their seats to see how this turns out. They just want to hear :rabble rabble fed employees rabble rabble: and then their tiny pea brains move on to the next [thing the conservatives tell them to be upset about e.g. trans library hour, immigration, etc.].

Before I worked for the government I spent almost no time thinking about the employment conditions of fed employees. I grew up in a conservative place down south and except for an occasional “useless government” comment, this is not high priority to be followed up on.

THIS. And Trump knows this too. He will burn ZERO political capital on DOGE’s silly wet dreams. It’s all talk and drama. It was barely mentioned during the campaign. Nobody cares except Vivek, bc he has a chip on his shoulder.

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Anonymous wrote:Can you all stop it with the 8-6?? No one is making feds work 10 hour days and get paid for 8.

https://www.axios.com/local/washington-dc/2024/11/21/federal-workers-return-office-doge-elon-musk

This was one comment on a tv show made over a month ago that hasn’t been brought up again. They like to talk a lot of nonsense and I hardly think the general public is on the edge of their seats to see how this turns out. They just want to hear :rabble rabble fed employees rabble rabble: and then their tiny pea brains move on to the next [thing the conservatives tell them to be upset about e.g. trans library hour, immigration, etc.].

Before I worked for the government I spent almost no time thinking about the employment conditions of fed employees. I grew up in a conservative place down south and except for an occasional “useless government” comment, this is not high priority to be followed up on.

THIS. And Trump knows this too. He will burn ZERO political capital on DOGE’s silly wet dreams. It’s all talk and drama. It was barely mentioned during the campaign. Nobody cares except Vivek, bc he has a chip on his shoulder.

Except making the evil bureaucrats suffer is a source of political capital for Trump.

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Anonymous wrote:There is no DOGE. Before we even could have one, Congress would have to pass legislation.

This. It's not a government agency, I will be shocked if Congress creates one, and if they do Elon Musk won't actually be employed there because he's got a bunch of companies already.

Now could OPM or your agency head make life harder than it has to be? Sure. But this administration doesn't actually care if you get a snow day off, unless you make it "a thing" they can use to rile the base. Stop creating silly scearios to worry about, it's only giving them the reaction they're looking for.

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Anonymous wrote:People won't be taking their laptops home if TW disappears, so no.

But then you’ll just end up burning leave. Some people are ok with that and some people have no options due to childcare issues. But not everyone is going to leave their laptops at work and waste a day of leave.

DP but at my agency in order to telework you have to have a telework agreement. If telework goes away then there is no telework agreement meaning people will not have their homes set up with an office.

Before telework we got snow days off, so I would imagine it would revert to that. I mean I wouldn’t put it past DOGE to try to have it both ways, but I don’t think it would work because of OPM determining work statuses. If work can’t be done at home on a non-snow day because it must be done in an office chair to be productive, then how would snow on the ground magically make teleworking more productive?

No. I played this game with my agency about 5 years ago. I wasn’t allowed to telework. But on snow days I was expected to telework. Except I had small kids home and thus needed to take annual leave. I refused to sign a telework agreement and they forced me to. HR said I was required to have emergency telework and be forced to take annual leave when the office closes.

I don’t think you appreciate that snow days exist to benefit you. They have no benefit for the employer. If you want the day off, you have to take leave, just like you do on every other day.

I see zero benefit to being forced to use leave when I can still make it to work. I already could use annual leave anytime I wanted.