Revealed-- Employer Preferences of The Top Colleges

[Anonymous]

Someone explain Harvey Mudd to me. It's like they wanted to sound like "Harvard" but stretched it out more.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Brown grad with a humanities degree here. My starting salary wasn’t high (though was totally fine), but I had multiple offers and a job waiting for me at graduation. I now make $750k in an arts job that at least isn’t actively making the world worse that I didn’t have to go to grad school for. Starting salary isn’t everything.

DP. Yes, I was thinking I hate all these attempts to measure university quality by starting salary. Brown has opened so many opportunities for my kid. I am glad they embrace arts and humanities.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Someone explain Harvey Mudd to me. It's like they wanted to sound like "Harvard" but stretched it out more.

Or perhaps the guy it was named for changed his name so it would sound like Harvard.

[Anonymous]

You could invert this list into "colleges not to pay a premium for if your only goal is $$$$"

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Someone explain Harvey Mudd to me. It's like they wanted to sound like "Harvard" but stretched it out more.

The Mudd family is almost everywhere in the US.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:1. OP stole this from

https://www.reddit.com/r/ApplyingToCollege/comments/16tenex/revealed_employer_preferences_in_t50ish_colleges/

2. It's College Scorecard data.

The College Scorecard dataset only considers data from students receiving federal student aid.

Several groups are left out,
including undocumented and international students,
on top of those in more financially advantageous situations

It also doesn't consider cost of living in the area of employment.

Yeah this data is not really worth discussing.

Not really worth discussing? Other than the literal majority of American households who qualify under this umbrella.

“Literal” and “majority” do not mean what you seem to think they mean. A literal majority of American households do not fall under this umbrella.

You don’t think a majority of American households qualify for any financial aid?

Yeah, sure. Stay in the UMC bubble.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:1. OP stole this from

https://www.reddit.com/r/ApplyingToCollege/comments/16tenex/revealed_employer_preferences_in_t50ish_colleges/

2. It's College Scorecard data.

The College Scorecard dataset only considers data from students receiving federal student aid.

Several groups are left out,
including undocumented and international students,
on top of those in more financially advantageous situations

It also doesn't consider cost of living in the area of employment.

Yeah this data is not really worth discussing.

Not really worth discussing? Other than the literal majority of American households who qualify under this umbrella.

“Literal” and “majority” do not mean what you seem to think they mean. A literal majority of American households do not fall under this umbrella.

You don’t think a majority of American households qualify for any financial aid?

Yeah, sure. Stay in the UMC bubble.

I don’t think a majority of American households go to college. So, no, this isn’t applicable to them at all. Let alone the half that do go and don’t get federal aid. And that’s probably an even greater share for the limited group of selective, expensive colleges listed here.

So, no, it’s not worth discussing, and especially not for a literal majority of American households.

[Anonymous]

The formatting is killing my brain, so reordered.

First Tier
Harvey Mudd, MIT, CalTech, UPenn, Stanford, Harvard

Second Tier
Dartmouth, Duke, Johns Hopkins, Carnegie Mellon, Yale, Claremont McKenna, Georgetown, UChicago, Columbia, Northwestern, Vanderbilt, Rice, Cornell, Berkeley, NYU,

Third Tier
Wasington & Lee, Bowdoin, Georgia Tech, Northeastern, Notre Dame, BU, Pomona, Amherst, Villanova, USC, Emory, Williams, Swarthmore, Barnard, Colgate, Wake Forest, Middlebury, BU, UVA, Tufts, WashU at St. Louis, Wellesley

Fourth Tier
Trinity (TX), Bucknell, Wesleyan, Brandeis, Lehigh, Michigan, UT Austin, Colby, Brown, UCLA, Davidson, Rochester, Wisconsin, Haverford, Case Western, Bates, UNC, Bryn Mawr, Illinois, UC San Diego, Hamilton, Richmond, UMiami, Florida, William & Mary, Kenyon, Georgia, Vassar

Fifth Tier
Tulane, Macalester, Carleton, Grinnell, Smith, Colorado

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The formatting is killing my brain, so reordered.

First Tier
Harvey Mudd, MIT, CalTech, UPenn, Stanford, Harvard

Second Tier
Dartmouth, Duke, Johns Hopkins, Carnegie Mellon, Yale, Claremont McKenna, Georgetown, UChicago, Columbia, Northwestern, Vanderbilt, Rice, Cornell, Berkeley, NYU,

Third Tier
Wasington & Lee, Bowdoin, Georgia Tech, Northeastern, Notre Dame, BU, Pomona, Amherst, Villanova, USC, Emory, Williams, Swarthmore, Barnard, Colgate, Wake Forest, Middlebury, BU, UVA, Tufts, WashU at St. Louis, Wellesley

Fourth Tier
Trinity (TX), Bucknell, Wesleyan, Brandeis, Lehigh, Michigan, UT Austin, Colby, Brown, UCLA, Davidson, Rochester, Wisconsin, Haverford, Case Western, Bates, UNC, Bryn Mawr, Illinois, UC San Diego, Hamilton, Richmond, UMiami, Florida, William & Mary, Kenyon, Georgia, Vassar

Fifth Tier
Tulane, Macalester, Carleton, Grinnell, Smith, Colorado

I'm a partner in a top consulting firm and don't really agree with this list during our recruiting efforts. I'd probably move many in the third tier up to 2nd, and others down to 4th. Same with 2nd and 4th tier. Other than the first tier, I largely disagree with this list.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:1. OP stole this from

https://www.reddit.com/r/ApplyingToCollege/comments/16tenex/revealed_employer_preferences_in_t50ish_colleges/

2. It's College Scorecard data.

The College Scorecard dataset only considers data from students receiving federal student aid.

Several groups are left out,
including undocumented and international students,
on top of those in more financially advantageous situations

It also doesn't consider cost of living in the area of employment.

Yeah this data is not really worth discussing.

Not really worth discussing? Other than the literal majority of American households who qualify under this umbrella.

“Literal” and “majority” do not mean what you seem to think they mean. A literal majority of American households do not fall under this umbrella.

You don’t think a majority of American households qualify for any financial aid?

Yeah, sure. Stay in the UMC bubble.

I don’t think a majority of American households go to college. So, no, this isn’t applicable to them at all. Let alone the half that do go and don’t get federal aid. And that’s probably an even greater share for the limited group of selective, expensive colleges listed here.

So, no, it’s not worth discussing, and especially not for a literal majority of American households.

Knowing that these are the type of people on the forum, who can't see outside of their bubble is disconcerting. More than 50% of Americans are going off to some college these days.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:1. OP stole this from

https://www.reddit.com/r/ApplyingToCollege/comments/16tenex/revealed_employer_preferences_in_t50ish_colleges/

2. It's College Scorecard data.

The College Scorecard dataset only considers data from students receiving federal student aid.

Several groups are left out,
including undocumented and international students,
on top of those in more financially advantageous situations

It also doesn't consider cost of living in the area of employment.

Yeah this data is not really worth discussing.

Not really worth discussing? Other than the literal majority of American households who qualify under this umbrella.

“Literal” and “majority” do not mean what you seem to think they mean. A literal majority of American households do not fall under this umbrella.

You don’t think a majority of American households qualify for any financial aid?

Yeah, sure. Stay in the UMC bubble.

I don’t think a majority of American households go to college. So, no, this isn’t applicable to them at all. Let alone the half that do go and don’t get federal aid. And that’s probably an even greater share for the limited group of selective, expensive colleges listed here.

So, no, it’s not worth discussing, and especially not for a literal majority of American households.

Knowing that these are the type of people on the forum, who can't see outside of their bubble is disconcerting. More than 50% of Americans are going off to some college these days.

Only if you include community college (which this list has nothing to do with). Fewer than 50% go to four-year colleges. And that’s only of recent high school grads; plenty of households don’t have children in them at all, or people who don’t finish high school. So not a “literal majority.”

I get that you keep trying to make a point about a bubble, but you are clearly unfamiliar with the actual numbers, whether it is who is going to college or how many are on federal aid.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The formatting is killing my brain, so reordered.

First Tier
Harvey Mudd, MIT, CalTech, UPenn, Stanford, Harvard

Second Tier
Dartmouth, Duke, Johns Hopkins, Carnegie Mellon, Yale, Claremont McKenna, Georgetown, UChicago, Columbia, Northwestern, Vanderbilt, Rice, Cornell, Berkeley, NYU,

Third Tier
Wasington & Lee, Bowdoin, Georgia Tech, Northeastern, Notre Dame, BU, Pomona, Amherst, Villanova, USC, Emory, Williams, Swarthmore, Barnard, Colgate, Wake Forest, Middlebury, BU, UVA, Tufts, WashU at St. Louis, Wellesley

Fourth Tier
Trinity (TX), Bucknell, Wesleyan, Brandeis, Lehigh, Michigan, UT Austin, Colby, Brown, UCLA, Davidson, Rochester, Wisconsin, Haverford, Case Western, Bates, UNC, Bryn Mawr, Illinois, UC San Diego, Hamilton, Richmond, UMiami, Florida, William & Mary, Kenyon, Georgia, Vassar

Fifth Tier
Tulane, Macalester, Carleton, Grinnell, Smith, Colorado

I'm a partner in a top consulting firm and don't really agree with this list during our recruiting efforts. I'd probably move many in the third tier up to 2nd, and others down to 4th. Same with 2nd and 4th tier. Other than the first tier, I largely disagree with this list.

Same. Our first tier recruiting includes all in the first tier, all but 3 in the second tier, and Brown from its tier

[Anonymous]

STEM schools. Are we surprised?

[Anonymous]

Can someone explain Washington & Lee’s placement on the list?

[Anonymous]

I wonder if many people here even know that Harvey Mudd's freshmen class had a whopping 231 students.