Cornell's in-state preference is real

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Anonymous wrote:All Ivies have a preference for in-state students.

This. And true for others (Duke - Carolinas promise; Northwestern - backyard Chicago public school promise) - why is anyone surprised?

Maybe true but Penn and Cornell are mandated to take a certain amount of students locally (Penn) and statewide (Cornell).

Northwestern is as well, as part of their tax-exempt status.....and deal with the city of Chicago for their downtown campus.

Please provide a citation, any citation, to something saying Cornell is mandated to take a certain amount of NYS students. Undoubtedly, the land grant schools give some preference to NYS residents, but they seem intentionally vague on the degree to which that matters, and I've never seen anything from the non-State schools saying that.

Search the school newspaper

So the answer is that you have no actual basis for saying that Cornell is MANDATED to take a CERTAIN AMOUNT of NYS students. What amount is that exactly? It is so, so hard some times to not conclude that many posters on this site are trolls

lol
I found it in the newspaper. not that hard with google.
sheesh.
maybe step away from your computer????

So what's the amount? And if you actually found it, tell us where. Or is your point actually just that the land grant schools give an in-state preference of unknown dimension, which the entire world is already aware of. You seem to be saying something more than that -- that there is a mandate for the private schools as well and that it's a specific number. That is no where

Realize that there are people who come to this site to actually find useful information, to help them and their kids figure out where to apply. When you throw out vague, incorrect information suggesting that the private schools have to give an in-state preference and/or that there is a particular number they are looking for, you are harming kids and their families -- or just wasting everyone's time.

You need to take a breath.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Take a look at this NY in-state school's four year matriculation.
Cannot be more real.

Cornell (315 Admitted, 205 Enrolled)
CalTech (6 Admitted, 2 Enrolled)
Berkeley (23 Admitted, 6 Enrolled)
Brown (37 Admitted, 23 Enrolled)
CMU (73 Admitted, 37 Enrolled)
Northwestern (42 Admitted, 22 Enrolled)
University of Chicago (55 Admitted, 42 Enrolled)
UCLA (20 Admitted, 6 Enrolled)
Columbia (64 Admitted, 42 Enrolled)
Dartmouth (14 Admitted, 7 Enrolled)
Duke (25 Admitted, 11 Enrolled)
Georgetown (43 Admitted, 17 Enrolled)
Georgia Tech (69 Admitted, 3 Enrolled)
Harvard (29 Admitted, 23 Enrolled)
Johns Hopkins (23 Admitted, 5 Enrolled)
MIT (39 Admitted, 36 Enrolled)
UMich (342 Admitted, 141 Enrolled)
University of Pennsylvania (57 Admitted, 37 Enrolled)
Princeton (45 Admitted, 25 Enrolled)
Stanford (9 Admitted, 6 Enrolled)
Yale (39 Admitted, 23 Enrolled)

This has to be a NYC specialized schools. Even the middling students go to a top school.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:All Ivies have a preference for in-state students.

This. And true for others (Duke - Carolinas promise; Northwestern - backyard Chicago public school promise) - why is anyone surprised?

Maybe true but Penn and Cornell are mandated to take a certain amount of students locally (Penn) and statewide (Cornell).

Northwestern is as well, as part of their tax-exempt status.....and deal with the city of Chicago for their downtown campus.

Please provide a citation, any citation, to something saying Cornell is mandated to take a certain amount of NYS students. Undoubtedly, the land grant schools give some preference to NYS residents, but they seem intentionally vague on the degree to which that matters, and I've never seen anything from the non-State schools saying that.

Search the school newspaper

So the answer is that you have no actual basis for saying that Cornell is MANDATED to take a CERTAIN AMOUNT of NYS students. What amount is that exactly? It is so, so hard some times to not conclude that many posters on this site are trolls

No one owes you admission to Cornell. Move to NY if it’s that important to you.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:All Ivies have a preference for in-state students.

This. And true for others (Duke - Carolinas promise; Northwestern - backyard Chicago public school promise) - why is anyone surprised?

Maybe true but Penn and Cornell are mandated to take a certain amount of students locally (Penn) and statewide (Cornell).

Northwestern is as well, as part of their tax-exempt status.....and deal with the city of Chicago for their downtown campus.

Please provide a citation, any citation, to something saying Cornell is mandated to take a certain amount of NYS students. Undoubtedly, the land grant schools give some preference to NYS residents, but they seem intentionally vague on the degree to which that matters, and I've never seen anything from the non-State schools saying that.

Search the school newspaper

So the answer is that you have no actual basis for saying that Cornell is MANDATED to take a CERTAIN AMOUNT of NYS students. What amount is that exactly? It is so, so hard some times to not conclude that many posters on this site are trolls

No one owes you admission to Cornell. Move to NY if it’s that important to you.

Um, I went to Cornell years ago and my DC just graduated. So really no need to move anywhere. That's the point. This forum is filled with people who opine on schools and things they know nothing about, likely trolls or bored kids. People come here for accurate info. The accurate info is that the land grant schools do give some NYS preference, while the others don't. There is no specific number any school must admit from NYS. And like every other university in the country, Cornell probably has some feeder schools it likes. What an utterly useless, uninformative thread.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Yes, the land grant schools within Cornell are considered public schools. If you are a resident of DC, your kid could use TAG money to pay tuition if they enroll in one of the “public” colleges at Cornell.

Would this include CALS? DC is interested and never knew this, if so.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:All Ivies have a preference for in-state students.

This. And true for others (Duke - Carolinas promise; Northwestern - backyard Chicago public school promise) - why is anyone surprised?

Maybe true but Penn and Cornell are mandated to take a certain amount of students locally (Penn) and statewide (Cornell).

Northwestern is as well, as part of their tax-exempt status.....and deal with the city of Chicago for their downtown campus.

Please provide a citation, any citation, to something saying Cornell is mandated to take a certain amount of NYS students. Undoubtedly, the land grant schools give some preference to NYS residents, but they seem intentionally vague on the degree to which that matters, and I've never seen anything from the non-State schools saying that.

Search the school newspaper

So the answer is that you have no actual basis for saying that Cornell is MANDATED to take a CERTAIN AMOUNT of NYS students. What amount is that exactly? It is so, so hard some times to not conclude that many posters on this site are trolls

lol
I found it in the newspaper. not that hard with google.
sheesh.
maybe step away from your computer????

Or maybe you found it on Reddit which is where I saw these numbers. The school is Bronx Science btw.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Yes, the land grant schools within Cornell are considered public schools. If you are a resident of DC, your kid could use TAG money to pay tuition if they enroll in one of the “public” colleges at Cornell.

Would this include CALS? DC is interested and never knew this, if so.

That school is not one of the public options.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Take a look at this NY in-state school's four year matriculation.
Cannot be more real.

Cornell (315 Admitted, 205 Enrolled)
CalTech (6 Admitted, 2 Enrolled)
Berkeley (23 Admitted, 6 Enrolled)
Brown (37 Admitted, 23 Enrolled)
CMU (73 Admitted, 37 Enrolled)
Northwestern (42 Admitted, 22 Enrolled)
University of Chicago (55 Admitted, 42 Enrolled)
UCLA (20 Admitted, 6 Enrolled)
Columbia (64 Admitted, 42 Enrolled)
Dartmouth (14 Admitted, 7 Enrolled)
Duke (25 Admitted, 11 Enrolled)
Georgetown (43 Admitted, 17 Enrolled)
Georgia Tech (69 Admitted, 3 Enrolled)
Harvard (29 Admitted, 23 Enrolled)
Johns Hopkins (23 Admitted, 5 Enrolled)
MIT (39 Admitted, 36 Enrolled)
UMich (342 Admitted, 141 Enrolled)
University of Pennsylvania (57 Admitted, 37 Enrolled)
Princeton (45 Admitted, 25 Enrolled)
Stanford (9 Admitted, 6 Enrolled)
Yale (39 Admitted, 23 Enrolled)

This has to be a NYC specialized schools. Even the middling students go to a top school.

Not really, more than 30% at Stuy and BrxSc go to SUNYs. Each class has 800+ kids so many end up at SUNYs.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Yes, the land grant schools within Cornell are considered public schools. If you are a resident of DC, your kid could use TAG money to pay tuition if they enroll in one of the “public” colleges at Cornell.

Would this include CALS? DC is interested and never knew this, if so.

That school is not one of the public options.

CALS is a NY land-grant college.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Take a look at this NY in-state school's four year matriculation.
Cannot be more real.

Cornell (315 Admitted, 205 Enrolled)
CalTech (6 Admitted, 2 Enrolled)
Berkeley (23 Admitted, 6 Enrolled)
Brown (37 Admitted, 23 Enrolled)
CMU (73 Admitted, 37 Enrolled)
Northwestern (42 Admitted, 22 Enrolled)
University of Chicago (55 Admitted, 42 Enrolled)
UCLA (20 Admitted, 6 Enrolled)
Columbia (64 Admitted, 42 Enrolled)
Dartmouth (14 Admitted, 7 Enrolled)
Duke (25 Admitted, 11 Enrolled)
Georgetown (43 Admitted, 17 Enrolled)
Georgia Tech (69 Admitted, 3 Enrolled)
Harvard (29 Admitted, 23 Enrolled)
Johns Hopkins (23 Admitted, 5 Enrolled)
MIT (39 Admitted, 36 Enrolled)
UMich (342 Admitted, 141 Enrolled)
University of Pennsylvania (57 Admitted, 37 Enrolled)
Princeton (45 Admitted, 25 Enrolled)
Stanford (9 Admitted, 6 Enrolled)
Yale (39 Admitted, 23 Enrolled)

This has to be a NYC specialized schools. Even the middling students go to a top school.

Not really, more than 30% at Stuy and BrxSc go to SUNYs. Each class has 800+ kids so many end up at SUNYs.

NY State also offers a good but of aid for the first two? years at any SUNY based on income but it is pretty high like $150K

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I've always felt Cornell had more a 'state university' feel than an Ivy or SLAC. It's also large--undergrad enrollment the size of UVA.

A Cornell degree is a Cornell degree. It makes no difference which college one went to. It's an ivy!

For premed, why wouldn't you go to Agriculture or Human Ecology rather than Engineering?

Have you heard of something called medical engineering? Where do you think all the money is going when you pay thousands to tens of thousands of dollars for tests and scans and implants?

For dinner party purposes with the other low end private school parents, sure, it makes no difference.

But Goldman Sachs and Yale Law and aren't tripping over themselves to grab Agriculture students.

Stop talking about things you don't understand.

Bioengineering (or what you called "medical engineering") is a major that prepare for medical device companies.
Premed students typically avoid bioengineering but go for biology, chemistry, biochemistry, etc.
Other statements are just vague bullshit, dinner party, GS, low end.

That’s actually biomedical engineering at Cornell. It falls under the engineering school (formerly in mechanical engineering dept).

Biological & environmental engineering is similar but focuses more on biological systems and it falls under the Ag school. They take all of the same core engineering classes with the other engineers.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I've always felt Cornell had more a 'state university' feel than an Ivy or SLAC. It's also large--undergrad enrollment the size of UVA.

A Cornell degree is a Cornell degree. It makes no difference which college one went to. It's an ivy!

For premed, why wouldn't you go to Agriculture or Human Ecology rather than Engineering?

Duh. But the experience is different at a small Ivy or SLAC focused on undergrads. You missed the point.

In the long, cold winter, I'd rather have more students on campus.

Cornell is Penn and Dartmouth combined, is it that awful? No really.

I'd rather not be in the middle of nowhere. I'd take Penn or Brown or Yale--somewhere with a small city nearby for great restaurants, theaters, activities...and easy transportation. 7-8K undergrads is about the perfect size.

Good for you. There are plenty of others who feel differently. No one is forcing you to apply to Cornell

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I've always felt Cornell had more a 'state university' feel than an Ivy or SLAC. It's also large--undergrad enrollment the size of UVA.

A Cornell degree is a Cornell degree. It makes no difference which college one went to. It's an ivy!

For premed, why wouldn't you go to Agriculture or Human Ecology rather than Engineering?

Have you heard of something called medical engineering? Where do you think all the money is going when you pay thousands to tens of thousands of dollars for tests and scans and implants?

For dinner party purposes with the other low end private school parents, sure, it makes no difference.

But Goldman Sachs and Yale Law and aren't tripping over themselves to grab Agriculture students.

Stop talking about things you don't understand.

Bioengineering (or what you called "medical engineering") is a major that prepare for medical device companies.
Premed students typically avoid bioengineering but go for biology, chemistry, biochemistry, etc.
Other statements are just vague bullshit, dinner party, GS, low end.

That’s actually biomedical engineering at Cornell. It falls under the engineering school (formerly in mechanical engineering dept).

Biological & environmental engineering is similar but focuses more on biological systems and it falls under the Ag school. They take all of the same core engineering classes with the other engineers.

At Cornell, there are Environment and Sustainability major (Arts&Sciences), Biological & environmental engineering (CALS), and biomedical engineering (Engineering School).

Which one is the most difficult to get accepted in?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Take a look at this NY in-state school's four year matriculation.
Cannot be more real.

Cornell (315 Admitted, 205 Enrolled)
CalTech (6 Admitted, 2 Enrolled)
Berkeley (23 Admitted, 6 Enrolled)
Brown (37 Admitted, 23 Enrolled)
CMU (73 Admitted, 37 Enrolled)
Northwestern (42 Admitted, 22 Enrolled)
University of Chicago (55 Admitted, 42 Enrolled)
UCLA (20 Admitted, 6 Enrolled)
Columbia (64 Admitted, 42 Enrolled)
Dartmouth (14 Admitted, 7 Enrolled)
Duke (25 Admitted, 11 Enrolled)
Georgetown (43 Admitted, 17 Enrolled)
Georgia Tech (69 Admitted, 3 Enrolled)
Harvard (29 Admitted, 23 Enrolled)
Johns Hopkins (23 Admitted, 5 Enrolled)
MIT (39 Admitted, 36 Enrolled)
UMich (342 Admitted, 141 Enrolled)
University of Pennsylvania (57 Admitted, 37 Enrolled)
Princeton (45 Admitted, 25 Enrolled)
Stanford (9 Admitted, 6 Enrolled)
Yale (39 Admitted, 23 Enrolled)

It is a state school not surprising at all.

[Anonymous]

For NY residents, which Cornell school is the easiest to get into?